i got this female fren who wanna enlist
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hi all , i got this female fren who has stated her intent to go for NS , but her parents wouldn't allow, presumely that it's a waste of time for her ... but in this case can she enlist w/o her parents knowledge. if she get enlisted, will her place in Uni be reserved and her future civilian pay will be added with the NS thing? please give me this info so that i can help her to convice her folks. and erm.. one more thing for OCS commissioning , will female NS OCTs and male OCTs be commissioned together in one parade? Thanks a lot, guys
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females dun go for NS. u enlist as a regular. so the uni thing is up to the uni, or if she can get a scholarship then good.Originally posted by charleslee:hi all , i got this female fren who has stated her intent to go for NS , but her parents wouldn't allow, presumely that it's a waste of time for her ... but in this case can she enlist w/o her parents knowledge. if she get enlisted, will her place in Uni be reserved and her future civilian pay will be added with the NS thing? please give me this info so that i can help her to convice her folks. and erm.. one more thing for OCS commissioning , will female NS OCTs and male OCTs be commissioned together in one parade? Thanks a lot, guys
no such thing as with or without NS for female civilian pay.
male and female OCTs are commissioned together. but, u must be able to sign up as a officer.
no such thing as NS for girls. never heard of it. even the bi-annual BMT intake at tekong also for regulars.
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walao.
crazy friend.
waste 2 yrs leh.
insanity.
nuts. -
i don't understand this sentence. especially the part highlighted in red. care to explain in better words?Originally posted by charleslee:if she get enlisted, will her place in Uni be reserved and her future civilian pay will be added with the NS thing? -
TS thinks it's like us guys, u get a higher pay if u have completed ur NS.Originally posted by Gordonator:i don't understand this sentence. especially the part highlighted in red. care to explain in better words?
without NS u get a cut lower. -
see this is the reason some guys dun want to serve NS too. Can she serve for me or not huh.Originally posted by missqi:walao.
crazy friend.
waste 2 yrs leh.
insanity.
nuts. -
National Serivce for males... Sign on as regular for females. I tot now sign with SAF is 5 yrs ???
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hey mod , it's like what tamago has said...... jus wanna ask girls really cannot sign up for voluntary NS? only can go regular meh?
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no. if they ever let gals serve NS like us, u get 1/5 of the pay u get outside. low until u cry.
for wat u wan to torture urself and ur family with lower income and self-imposed 2-year liability when u can sign 5-years, be paid normally (in fact handsomely) and build up an army career?
but sign-on regular career means u cheong sua and stuff, or u become head of S1, docu, etc that kind of stuff. if u're talking about clerks/admins in the office it's known as DXO (Defence eXecutive Officers).
in any case, u can bring her down to CMPB to enquire. -
yes. females cannot volunteer for NS. at least for now.Originally posted by charleslee:hey mod , it's like what tamago has said...... jus wanna ask girls really cannot sign up for voluntary NS? only can go regular meh?
why is your friend so eager to volunteer? is it because she is fascinated by all those posters at bus stops or those tv commercials and wanna be a soldier? the truth is, everything is not as what is portrayed in those ads.
can she up to the challenge physically? will she be able to take the regimentation? will she mind the irregular working hours? -
well i tink she can take the regimentation but all the behind-the-scene stuff i tink she do not noe yet ... she needs u guys to tell her abt the Real Army life... coz' i have no rights to tell her since i'm still a pre-enlistee.
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why don't u ask her to call up the recruitment centre? here's the number. i believe the lady there will be able to answer all her doubts.
1800-687 2769
alternately, u may also ask her to visit us here. we'll try our best to answer her enquiries if possible. -
Allow me to give you a more comprehensive answer...
1) There is no such thing as a female citizen volunteering for National Service. At the present time, females are not required to enlist under the Enlistment Act for National Service and neither will the SAF accept such a volunteer. The only way a female can enlist is as a Regular Servicewoman who has signed a contract with the SAF as a career. As far as I know, no female volunteers for National Service have ever been enlisted into the SAF.
2) Even if your friend wants to sign on with the SAF as a career, she will need her parents to sign a statement as part of her contract if she is under 21 years old.
3) Future civilian pay will not be affected since as a female citizen, she is not eligible for NS or required for NS mobilisation etc.
4) There is no such thing as a "female NS OCT". However, Regular female OCTs do participate in the same Commissioning Parade as their male counterparts. -
thanks guys... mod u may want to close this thread
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The space in Uni. Up to the uni to keep for her.
But my advice for her is that she go Uni, get a degree first then go Sign up with Army.
Here's why...
Uni grad regulars get promoted faster, get recognised faster and paid more attention to better. In other words, her advancement chances is better than a Non-degree officer regular.
If she sign on as specialist, then she need not have a degree since whther she has it or not is not recognised by SAF since specialist ranks do not require a degree.
So as her to make her choice wisely... -
Correct.Originally posted by Ponders:The space in Uni. Up to the uni to keep for her.
But my advice for her is that she go Uni, get a degree first then go Sign up with Army.
Here's why...
Uni grad regulars get promoted faster, get recognised faster and paid more attention to better. In other words, her advancement chances is better than a Non-degree officer regular.
If she sign on as specialist, then she need not have a degree since whther she has it or not is not recognised by SAF since specialist ranks do not require a degree.
So as her to make her choice wisely...
Charleslee, maybe you could get her to come in herself so that we can elaborate more on this issue.
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What formation or vocation is she interested in? Most female regulars I know in the SAF are in artillery, signals, armour or logistics. Very few are actually amongst the front-line combat troops, I believe.
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Yes, I agree. Go and get a good degree first and then you start on a better pay scale, and better prospects. If you sign on the dotted line now, it is really up to SAF to release you for your studies (non-scholarship). Scholarships are a different thing altogether.Originally posted by Ponders:The space in Uni. Up to the uni to keep for her.
But my advice for her is that she go Uni, get a degree first then go Sign up with Army.
Here's why...
Uni grad regulars get promoted faster, get recognised faster and paid more attention to better. In other words, her advancement chances is better than a Non-degree officer regular.
If she sign on as specialist, then she need not have a degree since whther she has it or not is not recognised by SAF since specialist ranks do not require a degree.
So as her to make her choice wisely...
Why ask to enlist on NS terms for a low allowance, when you can get a salary for doing the same thing ? If she is interested only in serving for 2 years, then don't waste time. Go train and climb Everest, you get a better sense of achievement, even if you do not make it to the top. Because she (female) will also not make it to the top of SAF in her lifetime. -
actually ....
females CAN volunteer and enlist for NS ...
it has happened before .... and was reported in the straits times .... -
she must have watch the ad on making ur life worthwhile or smth along dat line. the ad dat features dis guy's life being shown in the cinema and everyone is slping cuz its boring...Originally posted by Gordonator:yes. females cannot volunteer for NS. at least for now.
why is your friend so eager to volunteer? is it because she is fascinated by all those posters at bus stops or those tv commercials and wanna be a soldier? the truth is, everything is not as what is portrayed in those ads.
can she up to the challenge physically? will she be able to take the regimentation? will she mind the irregular working hours? -
we are not even sure whether the girl in question here knows anything about the army and its various formation, vocation etc.Originally posted by dakkon_blackblade:What formation or vocation is she interested in? Most female regulars I know in the SAF are in artillery, signals, armour or logistics. Very few are actually amongst the front-line combat troops, I believe.
it might well just be a sudden impulsion, like impulsive shopping when one buys something but only to regret it later. but the different is, when u buy something and u don't like it later, u can just throw it aside. but if u sign on and regrets, u cannot simply just walk out of it. so think through this carefully. -
actually she didn't specify any formation she wanna go, she's like so determined to enlist as a NSF tt she's been talking abt it for yrs, i tink
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siao charbor. Bring her for a half-day walk in lorong asrama first, THEN ask her if she still wants to sign on.....unless she's signing on as DXO, then i got nth to say...
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sign on as wat?
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is she by anyway a tomboy?Originally posted by charleslee:actually she didn't specify any formation she wanna go, she's like so determined to enlist as a NSF tt she's been talking abt it for yrs, i tink