Medics FAQ
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My comments about them are based upon the first day that they came. And they were quite a disappointing batch compared to previous ones.Originally posted by snk86:then? first IV 3/4 fall out due to all kind of reason?
and btw ur a BTW instructor at SMM?
sispec crossover or old school type?
But their first IV was quite allright, though not great, still can be improved of course.
And yes to your second question. Though its no longer BTW anymore, its PTW.
And I won't answer your third question.
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i'm in P030, platoon 2.Originally posted by RvnRooRon84:My comments about them are based upon the first day that they came. And they were quite a disappointing batch compared to previous ones.
But their first IV was quite allright, though not great, still can be improved of course.
And yes to your second question. Though its no longer BTW anymore, its PTW.
And I won't answer your third question.
I think our IV had at least 60% 1st time shooters for the first IV.
Oh well, still getting used to life at SMTI. -
How time flies.
I was in the P011 batch.
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Well, 1st time shooters aren't exactly a good thing. For one yes it can boost confidence for future shoots. However, if too many times you get a one-shot-one-kill, it can actually backfire when the time comes when you get a vein that's hardly visible. Since you're so used to shooting 1S1K, then when you miss, its hard for you to get it right again.Originally posted by nullifi3d:i'm in P030, platoon 2.
I think our IV had at least 60% 1st time shooters for the first IV.
Oh well, still getting used to life at SMTI.
But well done for getting through the first-week in SMTI.
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toally agree many ppl think its easy to work in med centre.....the hardest thing is when a patient come in n need med help...2 mths of training in SMTI is hardly enough for us to handle medical cases!!! even nurses take 3 yrs to learn nursing!!! ITs very easy to get into tourbleOriginally posted by Rockhound:i wont say medical centre medics slack...
they handle the brunt of work that rifle coy medics wont wanna do..
such as....administration of the med ctr...
making sure everything runs smoothly....
the frequent IQA...commercial stocktakes sms audits...ohsas..and other audits...
i tasted coy medic life and now as a 2ic...and riflee coy is nothing compared to med ctr...
rifle coys chiong..after that equipment maintenance then slack...
med ctr medics undergo lots of paperwork...and harrasment by the higher ups of neesoon...
i miss rifle coy life cos i can basically slack my day away after activities may it be PT....outfield exercise...and what nots..
rifle coy ppl would say otherwise...but it takes more training hrs to train a med ctr medic than a rifle coy medic
med ctr medics do the saikang that no other ppl can or want to do.... -
who r yr instructors?Originally posted by nullifi3d:i'm in P030, platoon 2.
I think our IV had at least 60% 1st time shooters for the first IV.
Oh well, still getting used to life at SMTI. -
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the patients arent the problem....Originally posted by borntolive:toally agree many ppl think its easy to work in med centre.....the hardest thing is when a patient come in n need med help...2 mths of training in SMTI is hardly enough for us to handle medical cases!!! even nurses take 3 yrs to learn nursing!!! ITs very easy to get into tourble
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I used to be a medic instructor during my NSF days. That was when SMM was still at SAFTI, before we made the move to Ulu Pandan camp.
Recently did a course at the new SMM and managed to meet some familiar faces like (now 2WO) Khairuddin who was my platoon mate during basic medic course, and (now 1WO) Jumaat was one of the seargents.
PAMS used to be called POCM, and we trained the first batch of female combat medics. It was during my time that the current folding stretcher was designed for a WITS competition, and also the time when we were guinee pigs for choosing between different chemical defense masks.
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The current folding stretcher was actually a WITS project??Originally posted by anonymouse:I used to be a medic instructor during my NSF days. That was when SMM was still at SAFTI, before we made the move to Ulu Pandan camp.
Recently did a course at the new SMM and managed to meet some familiar faces like (now WO2) Khairuddin who was my platoon mate during basic medic course.
It was during my time that the current folding stretcher was designed for a WITS competition, and also the time when we were guinee pigs for choosing between different chemical defense masks.
Fun times.
I thought it was a well-known design thorughout the world. Just saw it on Black Hawk Down (the movie) yesterday on AXN where they open the stretcher similar to the current one.
And wow, you're old man!
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Hehe. Don't know who copied who. We came up with the 4-part, aluminium prototype in 1989. Before that, SAF was using a 2-part steel stretcher which we used to sling over the shoulder.
Yah, lao jiao already. -
Ahh that one; saw t before in the Heritage Musuem. Very antique!Originally posted by anonymouse:Hehe. Don't know who copied who. We came up with the 4-part, aluminium prototype in 1989. Before that, SAF was using a 2-part steel stretcher which we used to sling over the shoulder.
Yah, lao jiao already.
Haha yup yup, respects to you lao-jiao! -
Yeah I remember seeing a couple of those old stretchers while I was doing POI duty. The fabric is heavy canvas, right? When I saw that thing I was glad that they came up with the new aluminium frame stretcher.Originally posted by anonymouse:Hehe. Don't know who copied who. We came up with the 4-part, aluminium prototype in 1989. Before that, SAF was using a 2-part steel stretcher which we used to sling over the shoulder.
Yah, lao jiao already.
Anyway, thanks for making a better stretcher. Really.
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i think most of them fairly new 3SGs, Fahmi, Peifu, Zack, Nicky and occasionally Fazli will be around.Originally posted by borntolive:who r yr instructors? -
lol they r one of the nicest seargants aroundOriginally posted by nullifi3d:i think most of them fairly new 3SGs, Fahmi, Peifu, Zack, Nicky and occasionally Fazli will be around. -
haha, i have a feeling ur a old school, if thats the case i am quite thankfulz(esp if ur SGt faz) to how most of u all treat us P026 batch guys, enjoyed myself there.Originally posted by RvnRooRon84:My comments about them are based upon the first day that they came. And they were quite a disappointing batch compared to previous ones.
But their first IV was quite allright, though not great, still can be improved of course.
And yes to your second question. Though its no longer BTW anymore, its PTW.
And I won't answer your third question.
haha, well the previous batch was freaking abused from what i heard, compare to 26 and before lah.. -
naw, only 2 of them, the rest are all sispec crossovers.....Originally posted by borntolive:lol they r one of the nicest seargants around -
So, you're saying sispec crossovers aren't nice peeps?Originally posted by snk86:naw, only 2 of them, the rest are all sispec crossovers.....
And to correct you a little, only one is a sispec crossover; the rest are originally chosen from their respective medic courses. Just that out of those 4 that were from medic course, 2 went through the original (and now no-more)SPEC-II while the other 2 went through the new *coughs* sh1tty *coughs* level 2 course (with the BSLC peeps).
And touching on that subject, I truly honestly feel its a baaad idea to get Medic Specs from BSLC. Honestly.
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So far the BSLC modified spec II has received alot of flak. Seriously, they suck. Physical endurance was surprisingly, shockingly below par. Quoted by one intructor during Delta's field camp," Worse den BMC trainees." Enough said.
There is feedback tt some MO's place these fellas as Senior Medic 2IC instead of IC. The senior medics are more lao jiao corporals. Some MO's are demanding for the old SPEC II course to be reinstated. -
Yes that's so true.Originally posted by Gackt247:So far the BSLC modified spec II has received alot of flak. Seriously, they suck. Physical endurance was surprisingly, shockingly below par. Quoted by one intructor during Delta's field camp," Worse den BMC trainees." Enough said.
There is feedback tt some MO's place these fellas as Senior Medic 2IC instead of IC. The senior medics are more lao jiao corporals. Some MO's are demanding for the old SPEC II course to be reinstated.
Since they're fresh from SISPEC, fitness should not be a problem for them; but instead...
The fact that they have no On-the-job experience, shows a huge sign of their incapabilities, especially to those posted to med ctr to become SM 2IC.. I heard from people that when their first day at the med ctr, already act like some Lao-chiau fella and start ordering and sia-laning the more senior medics (though of lower ranks). Some even go to the extent of wanting to change how the things work..and its only their first-day at their new units!
Not only that, the quality of medic instructors taken from the BSLC course are way below average. I'm not saying the ones originally from CMC are good; but by just one look at the way 2 different instructors teach, trainees can guess who is good and who is bad. And the majority of the latter are those from the Modified-Spec Cse.
Its truly a sad-sight to see. But the higher-ups are not able to see this. All they 're able to see is that since they're from BSLC, they should show higher standards; in terms of discipline, subjects and bearing, turnout- thus producing similar standard medics for the SAF. What they fail to see is the lack of commitment and passion in these fellas.
And in my honest opinion, the very last of us (from CMC and SPEC-II) are going to be gone soon; after that the whole show will be run by the Mod-Specs. I shudder to think of how the future batches of medics are going to be like..
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That sound bad for future medic spec.Originally posted by RvnRooRon84:Yes that's so true.
Since they're fresh from SISPEC, fitness should not be a problem for them; but instead...
The fact that they have no On-the-job experience, shows a huge sign of their incapabilities, especially to those posted to med ctr to become SM 2IC.. I heard from people that when their first day at the med ctr, already act like some Lao-chiau fella and start ordering and sia-laning the more senior medics (though of lower ranks). Some even go to the extent of wanting to change how the things work..and its only their first-day at their new units!
Not only that, the quality of medic instructors taken from the BSLC course are way below average. I'm not saying the ones originally from CMC are good; but by just one look at the way 2 different instructors teach, trainees can guess who is good and who is bad. And the majority of the latter are those from the Modified-Spec Cse.
Its truly a sad-sight to see. But the higher-ups are not able to see this. All they 're able to see is that since they're from BSLC, they should show higher standards; in terms of discipline, subjects and bearing, turnout- thus producing similar standard medics for the SAF. What they fail to see is the lack of commitment and passion in these fellas.
And in my honest opinion, the very last of us (from CMC and SPEC-II) are going to be gone soon; after that the whole show will be run by the Mod-Specs. I shudder to think of how the future batches of medics are going to be like.. -
More bobo IV shooters lor.. Nabeiz.. stupid Delta. Field camp forget store. Left 1 man behind at meetup point. 1st 15min of exercise 2 fall out due to sprain ankles. Toilet also muz use cubicles. Instructor tentage 247 have trainees complain chest pain, cant breathe, leg pain.. Pansies sia.. really degrade the SGT rank..Originally posted by RvnRooRon84:Yes that's so true.
Since they're fresh from SISPEC, fitness should not be a problem for them; but instead...
The fact that they have no On-the-job experience, shows a huge sign of their incapabilities, especially to those posted to med ctr to become SM 2IC.. I heard from people that when their first day at the med ctr, already act like some Lao-chiau fella and start ordering and sia-laning the more senior medics (though of lower ranks). Some even go to the extent of wanting to change how the things work..and its only their first-day at their new units!
Not only that, the quality of medic instructors taken from the BSLC course are way below average. I'm not saying the ones originally from CMC are good; but by just one look at the way 2 different instructors teach, trainees can guess who is good and who is bad. And the majority of the latter are those from the Modified-Spec Cse.
Its truly a sad-sight to see. But the higher-ups are not able to see this. All they 're able to see is that since they're from BSLC, they should show higher standards; in terms of discipline, subjects and bearing, turnout- thus producing similar standard medics for the SAF. What they fail to see is the lack of commitment and passion in these fellas.
And in my honest opinion, the very last of us (from CMC and SPEC-II) are going to be gone soon; after that the whole show will be run by the Mod-Specs. I shudder to think of how the future batches of medics are going to be like.. -
i personally feel that cmc course is too freaking short..2 mths n expect us to understand n remember all medical knowledge? for e.g emergency protocols, 1st aid etc?
professional nurses take 3 yrs to learn in poly with attachment n wad about us?
if u ask me now, i have almost forgotten almost all of bandaging steps -
thats wat CME in ure posted unit is for....its the responsibilities of senior medics to teach and reinforce things taught to newly posted noobz....CMC is damn easy uh...i did my CMC in 3 weeks...Originally posted by borntolive:i personally feel that cmc course is too freaking short..2 mths n expect us to understand n remember all medical knowledge? for e.g emergency protocols, 1st aid etc?
professional nurses take 3 yrs to learn in poly with attachment n wad about us?
if u ask me now, i have almost forgotten almost all of bandaging steps -
was wondering , when they get in army , how are they dispatch to their unit ? can they choose if they want to go guards or medic ?
haha , haven go army b4 so i abit blur , i think i will get in in 1 or 2 yr time