If National Service is optional, will you.....
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Over my dead body...
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If NS is optional, there will be no SAF....
Put it another way, if it is possible to employ Gurkhas to staff the entire army, would you prefer foreign mercenaries to protect the nation rather than having to serve NS? -
interesting analysis. I'm actually for a UK/US version of the reservist force.. it sounds on the surface like a great way to earn your education while protecting the country/serving the nation ( if you buy that bulls**t). it could also bring in more credible people into the reserve force of SG Army.Originally posted by LazerLordz:We might be able to keep the same number of soldiers in the force if a new hypothetical Reserve Command can offer free university education for volunteers and part time weekend training a la the Territorial Army system in UK, Australia and New Zealand.
Put this with the GI Bill that the US Army offers to ROTC and Reserve Troops for study+training, it might work.
Can the economy sustain this, we need more in-depth study. However, I don't believe the powers that be will give two hoots about the benefits of such a radical change. Namely that the current military scholarship system co-opts leaders and provides for unspoken political-economical continuity of leadership for the PAP government. It acts as a way to "re-shape" the youth, through the traditional tools of calibrated coercion, and the leverage on national defense as a cohesion building tool.
The SAF has become an institution for communal bonding and leadership training, rather than an Army first and foremost.
These words might sound radical, but look deeper, and it is very true indeed.
the system of NS still has a lot of ground to cover if they want it to be an effective 'nation building tool'. -
That won't work...just consider how many uni graduates there are in Singapore...then half the number (actually there are more women than men in university)...can you form an army with the remainder? In addition, there will be a significant number who would rather not disrupt their education for NS.
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So long winded. Just say no one will hold arms and slave for 2 years la.
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Is like asking, "Do you want to cut off your little Bro".
If yes, then you must be a gay. -
Gays still need pen1s.Originally posted by jianfish9:Is like asking, "Do you want to cut off your little Bro".
If yes, then you must be a gay.
No pen1s how to be gay? -
In case anyone didn't get what I meant,
I was talking of a variation of the Territorial Reserves. Where you get FREE university education if you agree to be drafted for a 4 year reserve period, with vocational and MOS training during vacation breaks and weekend refresher training in marksmanship etc. -
SAF DESTROYED MY LIFE.... FKING HELL CCB
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For training you and teaching you discipline?Originally posted by Stooky:SAF DESTROYED MY LIFE.... FKING HELL CCB
How did it destroy your life? Care to share? -
i suppose if you sustained some injuries or missed out some really great opportunites.........Originally posted by LazerLordz:For training you and teaching you discipline?
How did it destroy your life? Care to share? -
If they offered free university education ON TOP OF getting triple the current NS allowance then its a big YES
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Reduce the 4 year reserve period to 2 years and we will have a dealOriginally posted by LazerLordz:In case anyone didn't get what I meant,
I was talking of a variation of the Territorial Reserves. Where you get FREE university education if you agree to be drafted for a 4 year reserve period, with vocational and MOS training during vacation breaks and weekend refresher training in marksmanship etc.
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it made me go crazy n took away my freedom n lifeOriginally posted by LazerLordz:For training you and teaching you discipline?
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I think this topic already have it answer hahaha.
But anyway i have already finish my 2 and a half yr now left the reservist nia ask me this qns,also too late. -
saf has too many power play inside so no for me
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yeah i agree saf is sian,but u think this way also no use the more u think,the slower the time get.Just stay happy and tell yourself every morning when u wake up ,that a day nearer toward your ord date,i can tell u time will go faster.Originally posted by Stooky:SAF DESTROYED MY LIFE.... FKING HELL CCB 
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They don't even pay you salary and CPF, tax relief for your family, but still require absolute obedience from you (just like what you would expect from your house dog) as well as 10 years of ICT plus IPPT. Imagine the degree of disruption to your civilian life, going well into your 30s, still worrying about your bread and butter as well as your IPPT tests.
Who would be that dumb enough to volunteer serving? If a war really breaks out, all those elitists would have fled Sink-poor, leaving us to kill or be killed. Don't the government love foreign talents? They can always hire mercenaries from Nepal. -
I sustained a training injury. Got my downgrade. I think it was equitable.Originally posted by hisoka:i suppose if you sustained some injuries or missed out some really great opportunites.........
But I really sympathise with those people who have to give up their place in a premier music academy because of NS.