Navy
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is it wise to have a career in the navy?? i heard tat navy is not as "terrible" compared to the army n air force...... and will the experience in the navy be counted for applying other technical jobs when i leave the navy?
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my friend (a SSGT) left the navy 6 mths ago. and he is still jobless...
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join in NAVY must upgrade yourself & never nua in your youthful days....and remember this in the survival of joining NAVY
Never Always Volunteer Yourself....
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Does he try to apply for shipyard job?Originally posted by saline:my friend (a SSGT) left the navy 6 mths ago. and he is still jobless... 
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Join navy if you want a good tan and maintain it like louis khoo and get to go to sea often, learn not to sea-sick.. and find dead bodies in the sea..
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in Navy is quite relax than Army but if u are sea sick,then better dun join... I sea sick they post me to navy... I go onboard,i sea sick until i gong..
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hw about naval combat officer?
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Naval Combat Officer also quite good,one thing is that muz not be seasick... U seasick then u wanna lead ur men... Tink they also scared to see their officer seasick...
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tink if u sign on better should jz stay there cos ur skills already out of tune with market liao.... unless he join those shipping company....Originally posted by saline:my friend (a SSGT) left the navy 6 mths ago. and he is still jobless... -
SSGT is a rank in the Navy in Singapore? over here (USA), Staff Sergeant is a Marines/Army/Air Force rank.Originally posted by saline:my friend (a SSGT) left the navy 6 mths ago. and he is still jobless...
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aiya if u think of joining the NAVY , u must tahan SAILING , 2 to 3 times a week , if some roc trip last for Months . Salary wise NAvy is the best
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Yes, SSGT is a Navy rank here as well. All 3 services follow the same rank system. However, ranks form General onwards are called Admirals.Originally posted by skid:SSGT is a rank in the Navy in Singapore? over here (USA), Staff Sergeant is a Marines/Army/Air Force rank.
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you must be mentally prepared lah. Long time away from family/friends/gf when sailing, and a lot of things to do when sailing. Also, there may be lack of sleep and rest, especially if ur department is short-handed.Originally posted by alpha_boy:is it wise to have a career in the navy?? i heard tat navy is not as "terrible" compared to the army n air force...... and will the experience in the navy be counted for applying other technical jobs when i leave the navy?
Also, after u leave the Navy. depends on what type of job u apply lor.. best is if u go apply for Shipping company.. -
actually not necessary must look for shipyard jobs after one left the Navy. it depends on personal interests. if one is still young and wanted to try something different, why not?Originally posted by larrenV2.003:Does he try to apply for shipyard job?
from what i observed, people who left the armed forces mostly will look for jobs not related to their previous vocation. mainly to try something new instead of doing the same things one have been doing all these years. -
[quote]Originally posted by alpha_boy:
is it wise to have a career in the navy?? i heard tat navy is not as "terrible" compared to the army n air force...... and will the experience in the navy be counted for applying other technical jobs when i leave the navy? [/q
" join the navy, see the world " many long years ago ... whatever vocation that you are in ... whether as an commission officer or other ranks, you might not find it relevant to the private sector. my oic(lta) went to become a security officer in one of the security company after he rod...some of my mate work as sale,service staff...some in it, storeman...all the jobs we now have is not what we were specialising in our regular's job. some of the vocations in the navy maybe be relevant to SSE now i think call ST marine?
now the navy still patrol our coast? i tot the coast guard have already taken over the duties many thousands days ago. going to roc will not take our ships months...endurance class took about 6-10 days, depending on the winds,wave (with or against)...etc. if it take months to go roc plus shore leaves and rtb ... most likely we are using bumboats.
seasick onboard the navy ship are only reserve for 'keng and idle kings' or maybe those who are onboard the 1st time. the conditions now in the navy are reserve for the "best"...you should be very happy...it means if you are selected your are/should be able to serve the navy well...that is only the starting step. nbmt, basic seamanship, vocation/specialist courses, midshipman courses ...etc etc...
well, if you talk about month/months of sailing, i think it should be the practical sailing/training for the mids.
anyway if you are really interested to join the navy, call/visit the navy recruitment center or what they call it now? check with the recruitment officers. they will be very please to answer all your questions...whether you can join them as a navy officer or other ranks, which vocations is suitable for you ...etc... and do not hope for a easy job that comes with a high pay. -
sea sick and find dead bodies are true lah, but u dun really get to tan because u will be wearing overalls and baseball cap most of the time at sea.Originally posted by thelesis:Join navy if you want a good tan and maintain it like louis khoo and get to go to sea often, learn not to sea-sick.. and find dead bodies in the sea.. -
as officer, u need to retire at 45 years old
as specialist, a 10 year contract then subject to extension
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hmmm... sounds nt bad, anyone knows the benefits on signing on as a naval officer? or any naval officers ard to share their experiences?
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Originally posted by axle-ken:hmmm... sounds nt bad, anyone knows the benefits (e.g. back payment, lum sum, scholarships?, etc... on signing on as a naval officer? or any naval officers ard to share their experiences?
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I have elaborated on this topic before and I will cut and paste it here....Originally posted by axle-ken:
Hello
Let me try to help you out with this one. I am currently in service and will try to sketch out the career path, the conditions and the pay..of course without infringing on OSA. As I am not an engineering officer, I am not that qualified to speak about the tech branch and will not elaborate on it.
Basically, upon signing on, you will spend about 8 to 9 months in Midshipman Wing in SAFTI OCS. If you are a graduate, your take home pay should hover around 2000-2200. The Midshipman course is divided into 3 phases - Basic Naval Term, Midshipman Sea Training Deployment and the Advance Naval Term. In BNT, you will learn about the basic knowledge such as the Rules of the Road (the traffic code at sea), basic chart work and other navigational fundamentals which you must know for your work at sea. In MSTD, you will basically go on a cruise of between 3 to 4 weeks onboard an LST, visiting about 2 to 3 ports in the region. MSTD is generally regarded as the most fun but the toughest part of the training and most of the time you will feel tired Twisted Evil It will expose you to what the navy is all about. After MSTD, in ANT you will be given more advanced but still rudimentary training in navigation and warfare related subjects. You will also go for training deployments onboard the mine counter measure vessels and the patrol vessels.
Upon commissioning, you be posted to the ships where you will be known as an Attached Officer. You will spend 3 to 4 months learning about the ship and how to perform the duties of the Officer of the Day (OOD) - the equivalent of the army DSO. However, you will be required to know much more than them. You will learn about fire fighting, ceremonies and protocols, the SOPs for all the various shipboard activities. After that, you will be certified in a practical assessment and awarded your Certificate of Competency. Upon getting your COC, you will be posted to Naval Advanced School (NAS) for about 3 months where you will begin the training to earn your Bridge Watch Keeping Certificate (BWC) which will qualify you to keep watch onboard a ship out at sea and a Navigator Certificate which will qualify you to be a navigating officer onboard ships. This training will extend beyond the 3 months in NAS to another 3 to 4 months onboard ship. After which only you will become a Navigating Officer. Contrary to what most people think, Officers do not learn a lot of rope work or basic housekeeping stuff such as paint chipping or line throwing.
You will serve about 6 to 1 year as a navigating officer before you proceed back to NAS where you can choose a number of specialisation courses of about a month to 2 months. After graduation, you will become either a weapons officer, communication and electronics officer, mine hunting officer or an anti submarine warfare officer. I think all these terms are pretty self explanatory. You will spend about 1 to 2 years in these appointments before proceeding for a 4 months course back in NAS - The Naval Warfare Officer Course. This course will teach you naval warfighting tactics and doctrines, qualifying you to lead a team of specialists in the combat information centre of the ships to fight a battle at sea. You will return to ships to become and Ops Officer and then an Executive Officer (2nd in Command). This tour will probably be about 2 years. At this point, you should be around 29 to 30, assuming you graduate from school with a basic degree at around 23 to 24. Of course, it is also possible now to be awarded the SAF Post Graduate Award for you to pursue a masters somewhere.
Next, you will proceed to a staff tour in MINDEF/HQ RSN/ Formation HQ or go to Singapore Command and Staff College for an 8 months course called the Command and Staff Course (CSC), preparing you for a LTC appt. The staff tours will last between 2 to 3 years after which you will return to ship for a junior command, in command of the patrol vessels and the mine hunters. After that you will proceed to another senior staff appointment in the mentioned places for about 2 to 3 years before returning to hold a senior command onboard a missile corvettes, landing ship tanks or an Executive Officer or Operation Officers onboard the Frigates. The subsequent tours will be quite diverse already and I will not go further. By now, you could be between 35 to 38 perharps
As for living conditions and routines onboard ships, it varies actually. If you are onboard the patrol vessels and mine hunters, you should expect about 10 to 12 days out at sea per month on average with each sailing duration of between 2 to 3 days. If you are onboard the LST, you should expect fewer frequency of sailing but each of longer duration. The same applies for the frigates and the missile corvettes. For example, a deployment to the Arabian Gulf could last for 2 to 3 months while a deployment to an exercise say in Australia could last up to a month. If you are in harbour, your working day should start between 0730 and 0800 and end by 1700, often earlier as our philosophy is for our guys to spend as much time as possible with their families and loved ones when they are in harbour, considering the time they will spend out at sea nowadays. Living condition onboard? Again it varies. The food ranges from mediocre to great - depending on the mood of your chef. Living quarters could be cramped - 4 to 6 in one large cabin onboard the corvettes, 2 to a cabin onboard the rest of the ships with qaulity of the room varying with the most luxurious being on the Frigates and LST - the LST have ensuite showers and toilets for the officer cabins! Twisted Evil Life out at sea is pretty comfortable. Most of the time, you keep watch for about 4 hours and have a rest of between 8 to 12 hours where you pretty much free to do your own stuff - be it to read, eat, sleep or watch tons of DVD with your guys, with most the planning and preparatory work being performed prior to sailing. The scenery is often great. Of course ideally you should have a stronger than average stomach to cope with turbulent sea and have understanding partners and family who realise the nature of your work.
As for the pay, you can find that out pretty easily from the naval recruitment website. Just note that you will also have a ship board allowance of about 300 dollars. Also, the officers pay scheme is divided into Scheme A, B and C. Scheme B being the default for graduates. Scheme C being the most and requiring a interview and CO's recommendation to get it. Pay difference between scheme B and C could be as much as 800 SGD.
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That means a farmer officer will be under scheme A?
A farmer officer (poly diploma) also requres a longer time than a degree holder to promote up the rank ladder...
This means that the pay is very very much lower for a diploma officer against his degree peers...
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absolutley. my sis is a navy combat officer though. she left singapore after commissionin to LT , went to Manchester Uni to upgrade herself + saf overseas scholarship. the training seems to be fun and i never hear my sis complain bout the trainings. if you want to go overseas often , be an air force pilot or navy is the best.Originally posted by larrenV2.003:join in NAVY must upgrade yourself & never nua in your youthful days....and remember this in the survival of joining NAVY
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PRIDE AND MONEYOriginally posted by alpha_boy:is it wise to have a career in the navy?? i heard tat navy is not as "terrible" compared to the army n air force...... and will the experience in the navy be counted for applying other technical jobs when i leave the navy?
which one you going after?
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Sorry, I don't mean to be rude.Originally posted by Gordonator:actually not necessary must look for shipyard jobs after one left the Navy. it depends on personal interests. if one is still young and wanted to try something different, why not?
from what i observed, people who left the armed forces mostly will look for jobs not related to their previous vocation. mainly to try something new instead of doing the same things one have been doing all these years.
Yes, most work in non-related vocations, such as Insurance Salesmen, Housing Agents, and Taxi Drivers. Know some that went to MOE, MHA or NUSAF in MINDEF. Of course, there are minority who ventured further. -
Ya true...Originally posted by Gordonator:actually not necessary must look for shipyard jobs after one left the Navy. it depends on personal interests. if one is still young and wanted to try something different, why not?
from what i observed, people who left the armed forces mostly will look for jobs not related to their previous vocation. mainly to try something new instead of doing the same things one have been doing all these years.
My previous div comd is now ceo of a shipping company... but he is a combatant..