New Fieldpack (part 2)
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CONFIRMED!
tekong recruits are using the new fieldpack!
its similar to the one i've shown but without the top compartment. quality seems lousier tho. -
haha.. they gonna suffer like hell..
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I am personally for the idea of a waterbag. The reason is, the water tube will encourage the troops to drink water more frequently why on the move. The old water pouch is not that accessible for those carrying heavy loads. For those whoare medics, 84mm, will noe that the manpack hinders the ability to tak out the bottle. But one thing abt the waterbag i am worried abt is the durability. The water bag is not that durable in the sense that the water bladder seems to leak water after some heavy sessions of chiong suaing as the heavy load seems to have cause the bladder and the tubing to be significantly weaken.
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I predict one problem with waterbags. If not addressed now, it could cause chronic and widespread problems for the SAF.
The problem is that of hygeine. It is difficult to clean a water bag. That is a problem. But a bigger problem would be the drinking tube. I can forsee alot of nasties growing inside the tube and more importantly, where you put your mouth!
Hopefully the fools that make up the CoC have cottoned on to this. -
algae will grow?Originally posted by scabstermooch:I predict one problem with waterbags. If not addressed now, it could cause chronic and widespread problems for the SAF.
The problem is that of hygeine. It is difficult to clean a water bag. That is a problem. But a bigger problem would be the drinking tube. I can forsee alot of nasties growing inside the tube and more importantly, where you put your mouth!
Hopefully the fools that make up the CoC have cottoned on to this.
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There are some good waterbags that gaurantees non-leakage and anti-microbial in-built, which means no algea will grow.
But the ones now issued does not seem to have these properties. Don't know why ? -
the new fieldpack is definitely a welcomed replacement to the old one. the fornt opening feature is the best of all. it makes packing/unpacking and looking for items so much easier.
damn. i hope i get my LBV and new fieldpack when i get called up for reservist. if not, i guess i'll buy the fieldpack myself at the e-mart with credits. -
I dun think it is just algae. More like fungi and bacteria. I think an uncapped drinking tube will also attract all sorts of little fleas/assorted insects.Originally posted by Diehard_89:algae will grow?
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mine has that anti-microbial in built.....Originally posted by KoolKool:There are some good waterbags that gaurantees non-leakage and anti-microbial in-built, which means no algea will grow.
But the ones now issued does not seem to have these properties. Don't know why ?
but i dun really trust the non-leakage guarantee.....u lie back or sit down forcefully and it'll burst...no joke... -
wah ... knee pads also SOE liao ah ? ...Originally posted by saline:
so when are we getting body armour as SOE ? ... -
wont uh....i got my body armour while on standby....after stand down gave backOriginally posted by Fatum:wah ... knee pads also SOE liao ah ? ...
so when are we getting body armour as SOE ? ... -
If you cannot trust the non-leakage gaurantee, how can you trust that anti-microbial ?Originally posted by Rockhound:mine has that anti-microbial in built.....
but i dun really trust the non-leakage guarantee.....u lie back or sit down forcefully and it'll burst...no joke...
For the non-leakage, just let the 3 tonner go over it. Get it changed if it leaks or burst.
One thing for sure, I'd rather trust the big brand that puts its name behind the product. Not copying and manufacturing in some China factory, and giving a gaurantee based on the assurance by the China factory. -
me too,my unit dun have.. and since me in service side,really no chance of getting it... My bmt day are the old SBO and field pack
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i quite trust the thing cos i havent got sick from using it in a year...and i know how to take care of mineOriginally posted by KoolKool:If you cannot trust the non-leakage gaurantee, how can you trust that anti-microbial ?
For the non-leakage, just let the 3 tonner go over it. Get it changed if it leaks or burst.
One thing for sure, I'd rather trust the big brand that puts its name behind the product. Not copying and manufacturing in some China factory, and giving a gaurantee based on the assurance by the China factory.
anywaes.....wonder wat they wanna do with the TES sets designed for SBO.....
putting on such TES Sets on LBV makes it seriously heavy..... -
if they are really going to issue the LBV as standard issue items, i don't think they will include the waterbag. most probably they will still use the water bottles as it is more useful for water parade, SOC etc.
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suddenly so many replies..
anyway, regarding the waterbag hygiene, it is true that it is hard to wash. the tube for sucking is harder to wash. that is why towards the end of 2nd year for my batch, we'd rather bring the extra water bottle than using the waterbag.
the suction comes with a cover but the suction part isnt made with the best of material. some might have the habit of biting it, the protruding part will be broken. i changed the entire waterbag because the suction part cant be replaced.
this is one dumb cost issue that probably didnt come into their mind. all of the spare parts for the LBV but not the most vulnerable suction.
personally i dont think the LBV will be the best thing to chiong sua with. its very hot after running up and down. your back is covered up and thus you'd remain sweaty in most course of your training.
now the paddings..
i was also issued with the knee and elbow pads. its ugly lah. imagine those cheapo skate guards thats in green. thats that! it doesnt really protect you but more to hindering your movement. why would you want something blocking your knee while running? the elastic is also loose and small size soldiers like me doesnt really benefit from it.
in the first place, isnt army about making little boys into tough men? with all these paddings, its making men in green sissy.
lastly the fieldpack, its somewhat different to the one i have.
it looks softer and its darker in color. mine have a zipper on the top while theirs is secured the same way as the old one does- buckle.
i got this feeling that since we can already stuff all the standard items into the old one, probably more items would be included as standard items since its so much more spacious.
my friends and i were joking about having umbrellas and 2 bottles of green tea in them. -
Well, for the knee pad, I know that even the US troops would prefer not to use them.
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Just to hijack this thread for a while.............
I noticed the newsletter mentioned this armoured 5 tonnes for operations other than war. Anyone have idea what this new tonner is like. What is the max lvl of protection for troops? They said there are gun ports in the vehicles but those gun port do not seem to facilitate aiming of weapons but rather just poking the rifle out for firing. Lastly, they said those tonners are going to be transferred to the Guards formation. I wonder for wad purpose as I believe those would suit the logistic support ppls better as they may encounter convoy ambushes. This looks worrying as does this hint SAF might be sending larger contingents to more dangerous peace-keeping missions like middle-east? Would this mean NSF may be involved? -
i kinda like the knee pads cos i have 20-30kg worth of equipment on ma back everytime....more comfy to high kneel and slide down hills...Originally posted by tfcheng:suddenly so many replies..
anyway, regarding the waterbag hygiene, it is true that it is hard to wash. the tube for sucking is harder to wash. that is why towards the end of 2nd year for my batch, we'd rather bring the extra water bottle than using the waterbag.
the suction comes with a cover but the suction part isnt made with the best of material. some might have the habit of biting it, the protruding part will be broken. i changed the entire waterbag because the suction part cant be replaced.
this is one dumb cost issue that probably didnt come into their mind. all of the spare parts for the LBV but not the most vulnerable suction.
personally i dont think the LBV will be the best thing to chiong sua with. its very hot after running up and down. your back is covered up and thus you'd remain sweaty in most course of your training.
now the paddings..
i was also issued with the knee and elbow pads. its ugly lah. imagine those cheapo skate guards thats in green. thats that! it doesnt really protect you but more to hindering your movement. why would you want something blocking your knee while running? the elastic is also loose and small size soldiers like me doesnt really benefit from it.
in the first place, isnt army about making little boys into tough men? with all these paddings, its making men in green sissy.
lastly the fieldpack, its somewhat different to the one i have.
it looks softer and its darker in color. mine have a zipper on the top while theirs is secured the same way as the old one does- buckle.
i got this feeling that since we can already stuff all the standard items into the old one, probably more items would be included as standard items since its so much more spacious.
my friends and i were joking about having umbrellas and 2 bottles of green tea in them. -
When you're high kneeling and proning for most of the time, in almost any kind of terrain, the pads are heaven-sent. By the way, are the pads of a generic brand?
As for the fieldpack, no comment as ive not tried humping it for a few klicks.
Waterbags...the one issued to me was made by this company called SOURCE hydration. Been using it for a year, and so far no problems. I don't even wash it regularly. -
Protect against small arms fire only. Try shoot a full mag of 7.62mm AP rds ( AK47 ), sure one or two rds will find its way to hit the poor driverOriginally posted by equlus84:Just to hijack this thread for a while.............
I noticed the newsletter mentioned this armoured 5 tonnes for operations other than war. Anyone have idea what this new tonner is like. What is the max lvl of protection for troops? They said there are gun ports in the vehicles but those gun port do not seem to facilitate aiming of weapons but rather just poking the rifle out for firing. Lastly, they said those tonners are going to be transferred to the Guards formation. I wonder for wad purpose as I believe those would suit the logistic support ppls better as they may encounter convoy ambushes. This looks worrying as does this hint SAF might be sending larger contingents to more dangerous peace-keeping missions like middle-east? Would this mean NSF may be involved? -
our waterbag is also from SOURCE this brand.
the quality of the bag can be considered good lah, but not the suction. washing is the hygiene part, so imagine some hidden particles from every leftover water is left behind...
the pads are of NO brand i suppose.
just a pad where its elastic wraps round your knee or elbow. think i have a photo of it but my site is down ATM.
the pad is heaven send when u are proning with heavy stuff but it will one way or the other obstruct your movement. we were excited abt this 'heaven's reward' only for us to complain during our ROC training. -
ok the pictures of my knee and elbow pads..
not so sure if its been replaced with better ones though. -
think it depends on unit...some use D&G...some use force 21Originally posted by tfcheng:ok the pictures of my knee and elbow pads..
not so sure if its been replaced with better ones though.
