Advice for Ex Lancer?
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Will be going to Brunei for SOCJOT soon. Just wanna ask ard if there's any special advice or things to take note of when there?
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Be prepared to get bored during RnR..
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Be awed by bird sized cicadas...
basically all the insects there UP-sized 1.
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Insect repellant is your friend.
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socks.. many socks.. n dont forget your solid fuel.. u need it when u reach biang..
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I am going too!
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Get some vinegar for those dang leeches...
Swim across Batu Apoi don't have leeches, but on top of Biang got leeches... -
what's SOCJOT?
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biang where got leeches 1? i tot leeches lives in the river..Originally posted by DarthBart:Get some vinegar for those dang leeches...
Swim across Batu Apoi don't have leeches, but on top of Biang got leeches... -
Mud and rain are a facet of life there. If you do enter the jungle and emerge from it dry at the end of the day, be sure to buy 4D. Guaranteed to strike.
The legendary Seven Knolls are not seven knolls at all. They're more like seven big knolls with many smaller knolls in between. So don't bother counting. The final knoll is the worst knoll you'll ever experience, by the way.
Much of the way, medical evacuation is only possible via helievac. So do your best not to get injured, cos they're not going to indent a chopper for lesser injuries. I remember having to scale those blardy knolls with a 39 degree fever. I couldn't fall out cos it was dead in the middle of the night and if I fell out, there would be just one platoon medic left to take care of the whole company. So the only way to fall out is by moving forward to finish the mission.
For Mount Biang, going up is actually easier than going down. And the trail is undulating - while ascending the hill, you will be cursing and swearing at points when the trail is leading downwards.
You will not come across any 'ninja vans' along the way while doing topo. So leave your money in camp. You don't want your money to get wet, anyway. -
agree.. jus dont look up when u climb the last 100m of biang..Originally posted by fudgester:Mud and rain are a facet of life there. If you do enter the jungle and emerge from it dry at the end of the day, be sure to buy 4D. Guaranteed to strike.
The legendary Seven Knolls are not seven knolls at all. They're more like seven big knolls with many smaller knolls in between. So don't bother counting. The final knoll is the worst knoll you'll ever experience, by the way.
Much of the way, medical evacuation is only possible via helievac. So do your best not to get injured, cos they're not going to indent a chopper for lesser injuries. I remember having to scale those blardy knolls with a 39 degree fever. I couldn't fall out cos it was dead in the middle of the night and if I fell out, there would be just one platoon medic left to take care of the whole company. So the only way to fall out is by moving forward to finish the mission.
For Mount Biang, going up is actually easier than going down. And the trail is undulating - while ascending the hill, you will be cursing and swearing at points when the trail is leading downwards.
You will not come across any 'ninja vans' along the way while doing topo. So leave your money in camp. You don't want your money to get wet, anyway. -
Thats what I thought tooOriginally posted by mr_sotong:biang where got leeches 1? i tot leeches lives in the river..
And bring some SGD too
I kinda miss the Chicken Chop and Burger in Lakiun Camp
BTW, you need to do swamp walk?
If you have to, be prepared to bash from start point to end point -
U dont have to worry about the training. SOCJOT is not as siong as JCC. the total days u will spent on training is about 5 days plus. and ex mountain rat is led by yr instructor. but of course if they are fc*k up than so are u. so its best to navigate on your own. from my experience, navigation is not that difficult all u have to do is to dare to take the first step and follow the general direction. do your pacing religously and the rest will fall in place. however do not do everything yourself, thats why u have buddy, ask them to help. finally enjoy the training, its the best place for training without external influences. I personally enjoy my stay there. all the best.
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Go get yourself a cloth hammock.
It will allow you to sleep off the ground, which makes a world of difference in Brunei.
Bring books to keep yourself occupied on the nights you don't have training. -
wats swamp walk?Originally posted by DarthBart:Thats what I thought too
And bring some SGD too
I kinda miss the Chicken Chop and Burger in Lakiun Camp
BTW, you need to do swamp walk?
If you have to, be prepared to bash from start point to end point -
it's walking in the swamp, as the name implies..Originally posted by STUU:wats swamp walk?
if u really need to do swamp walk, try to bash your way out within a day. if not, better pray it won't rain at night. the feeling sux, really....
imagine spending your night in the swamp where sleeping means sitting on some roots above the mud. and suddenly thunder roars and rain pours down. you take out your poncho and cover over your head while watching the water in the swamp rise higher and higher...
tt's what i experienced years ago... -
HahaOriginally posted by TVaddict:it's walking in the swamp, as the name implies..
if u really need to do swamp walk, try to bash your way out within a day. if not, better pray it won't rain at night. the feeling sux, really....
imagine spending your night in the swamp where sleeping means sitting on some roots above the mud. and suddenly thunder roars and rain pours down. you take out your poncho and cover over your head while watching the water in the swamp rise higher and higher...
tt's what i experienced years ago...
You spent a night at swamp also ah? *hi-5*
Only it didn't rain for me, but I think I had a fever that night. Kept hallucinating that the canteen was right round the corner -
Not sure if we'll be doing swamp walk, but there's 3 river-crossings in total. And the weather is always thunderstorm/ raining nowadays, so am q worried abt foot hygiene / foot rot. yeeksOriginally posted by TVaddict:it's walking in the swamp, as the name implies..
if u really need to do swamp walk, try to bash your way out within a day. if not, better pray it won't rain at night. the feeling sux, really....
imagine spending your night in the swamp where sleeping means sitting on some roots above the mud. and suddenly thunder roars and rain pours down. you take out your poncho and cover over your head while watching the water in the swamp rise higher and higher...
tt's what i experienced years ago... -
sorry double post
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tats y u need to bring lots of socks, powder n meal bags.. your feet can never b dry throughout lancer.. its quite cold during the night when u r on top of biang.. my buddy n i learn the lesson the hard way.. we didnt bring enough solid fuel, so we burn toilet rolls the whole night to keep us warm..Originally posted by pandemonium:Not sure if we'll be doing swamp walk, but there's 3 river-crossings in total. And the weather is always thunderstorm/ raining nowadays, so am q worried abt foot hygiene / foot rot. yeeks -
don't use gore-tex boots. get yourself a jungle boot.
enjoy the nature ! -
wats a jungle boot? I've only goretex and leather parade bootsOriginally posted by KoolKool:don't use gore-tex boots. get yourself a jungle boot.
enjoy the nature ! -
thank god i no need go swamp walk walkOriginally posted by TVaddict:it's walking in the swamp, as the name implies..
if u really need to do swamp walk, try to bash your way out within a day. if not, better pray it won't rain at night. the feeling sux, really....
imagine spending your night in the swamp where sleeping means sitting on some roots above the mud. and suddenly thunder roars and rain pours down. you take out your poncho and cover over your head while watching the water in the swamp rise higher and higher...
tt's what i experienced years ago... -
ya.. but u swim..Originally posted by STUU:thank god i no need go swamp walk walk -
i ish no go outfield wanOriginally posted by mr_sotong:ya.. but u swim..