guidelines of malaysian vehicles entering SAF camps
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as we know, everyday there are many civilian vehicles like delivery, contractors entering in and out of miliatary camps.
i heard from my RP friends that all malaysian registered vehicles, no matter of delivery stocks or whatever reasons are not allowed to enter any military camps. so how valid is this statement? -
why not you ask ur csm
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why not you ask ur csm
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i think i remember seeing malaysian lorries carrying fruits entering kranji camp before if i was not wrong
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as far as i know there is no special directive on foreign vehicles entering camps.
Unless there is a camp specific standign order. -
i haf seen malaysia trailer trucks delivering new cupboards to my camp
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If I remember correctly, that 's right. Unless the foreigner is on official visit, then FMLB will liase.Originally posted by Ponders:as far as i know there is no special directive on foreign vehicles entering camps.
Unless there is a camp specific standign order. -
I think what vehicle does not matter. It matters who enters the camp, and whether they are properly screened.
I thought I overhead someone saying that they just need to borrow a Singapore IC and the dumb MPs / RPs would just accept it. I think the SAF must upgrade this aspect. With technology, they should be able to get the thumbprints to match with the IC. -
I agree.Originally posted by KoolKool:I think what vehicle does not matter. It matters who enters the camp, and whether they are properly screened.
I thought I overhead someone saying that they just need to borrow a Singapore IC and the dumb MPs / RPs would just accept it. I think the SAF must upgrade this aspect. With technology, they should be able to get the thumbprints to match with the IC.
I am very disappointed with camp's book-in/out procedures considering the other equipments we use in army.
Using A4 sized books with ruler drawn lines is so... 1900s.
And the system of communications between expected visitors for the day and people receiving them is simply telephone.
Can't they use corporate type book-in/out?
Like guardhouse is linked by ethernet to resident unit's computer. Then ppl input data of guest they are expecting. The we just scan barcode of i/cs or input into computer their visit.
I think most of you here who did guard comd have experienced few incidents where Officers are locked out because guardroom is not informed of their visit.
In the end we get scolded like, "How can you let an Officer wait outside" -
the A4 sized book way mus remain laOriginally posted by Ponders:I agree.
I am very disappointed with camp's book-in/out procedures considering the other equipments we use in army.
Using A4 sized books with ruler drawn lines is so... 1900s.
And the system of communications between expected visitors for the day and people receiving them is simply telephone.
Can't they use corporate type book-in/out?
Like guardhouse is linked by ethernet to resident unit's computer. Then ppl input data of guest they are expecting. The we just scan barcode of i/cs or input into computer their visit.
I think most of you here who did guard comd have experienced few incidents where Officers are locked out because guardroom is not informed of their visit.
In the end we get scolded like, "How can you let an Officer wait outside"
otherwise hw to illegal stay out man 
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but the fact of malaysians being allowed to enter the camps remains and it may be a security breaches
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So malaysians entering camps for few hours is a security breach.Originally posted by kian hao:but the fact of malaysians being allowed to enter the camps remains and it may be a security breaches
But malaysians who serve Singapore NS isn't? -
Malaysian vehicles are not allowed to enter into camps. if let say malaysian workers/contractors are working inside the camps and they came in motorcycles, they are to park their motorcycles outside the camp and walk in themselves to change pass.
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Currently awaiting the tender to be awarded to lowest bidder.Originally posted by Ponders:I agree.
I am very disappointed with camp's book-in/out procedures considering the other equipments we use in army.
Using A4 sized books with ruler drawn lines is so... 1900s.
And the system of communications between expected visitors for the day and people receiving them is simply telephone.
Can't they use corporate type book-in/out?
Like guardhouse is linked by ethernet to resident unit's computer. Then ppl input data of guest they are expecting. The we just scan barcode of i/cs or input into computer their visit.
I think most of you here who did guard comd have experienced few incidents where Officers are locked out because guardroom is not informed of their visit.
In the end we get scolded like, "How can you let an Officer wait outside" -
No lar, as with all good government bodies, must write in to get approval for tender. Then the reviewing officer will have to write in to DSTA to find out if they can come up with something on a budget. That one will take time.Originally posted by ditzy:Currently awaiting the tender to be awarded to lowest bidder. -
Originally posted by Obersturmfuhrer:
Or get DSTA to come up with a contest see who can design a good book in/out system for $50000 cash prize, like that warfare robot thing.
No lar, as with all good government bodies, must [b]write in to get approval for tender. Then the reviewing officer will have to write in to DSTA to find out if they can come up with something on a budget. That one will take time. [/b] But if they're really stingy, make it a unit level contest, with the first prize 2 days off. -
That is the BIG flaw of lowest bidder.Originally posted by ditzy:Currently awaiting the tender to be awarded to lowest bidder.
I have seen many new SAF projects falling apart few months after commissioning.
This is especially in new camps...
lowest bidder = cheap toilet bowls = not durable.
Not to be specific, some camps have sewage pipes leaking into water pipe. And funds for the repair wasn't readily available. -
Hmmm, cant be. If its true... that means my division's camp securities are doing wrong things then.Originally posted by Gordonator:Malaysian vehicles are not allowed to enter into camps. if let say malaysian workers/contractors are working inside the camps and they came in motorcycles, they are to park their motorcycles outside the camp and walk in themselves to change pass.
cos, i saw a malaysian plate veh coming in after booking in... and even asked me where is the division block etc etc..., so yeah... he allowed entry even though guard personnel knew its a foreign registered car... -
i guess it depends on the camps the vechicle is entering. usually camps with no sensitive units will not have much difficulty entering.
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i think guards personnel won't know all this or even care. RPs should know better.Originally posted by mhcampboy:Hmmm, cant be. If its true... that means my division's camp securities are doing wrong things then.
cos, i saw a malaysian plate veh coming in after booking in... and even asked me where is the division block etc etc..., so yeah... he allowed entry even though guard personnel knew its a foreign registered car... -
oh sorry... i meant RP's... it was daytime..Originally posted by Gordonator:i think guards personnel won't know all this or even care. RPs should know better.
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falseOriginally posted by kian hao:as we know, everyday there are many civilian vehicles like delivery, contractors entering in and out of miliatary camps.
i heard from my RP friends that all malaysian registered vehicles, no matter of delivery stocks or whatever reasons are not allowed to enter any military camps. so how valid is this statement?
msia car & people can enter as long as they got valid reason. for example contractors renovating buildings. they will need to exchange personnel pass & vehicular pass to enter camp. if they are working in sensitive areas, den rp will be deployed to watch-over them. -
definitely not practised in my camp.Originally posted by menoob:false
msia car & people can enter as long as they got valid reason. for example contractors renovating buildings. they will need to exchange personnel pass & vehicular pass to enter camp. if they are working in sensitive areas, den rp will be deployed to watch-over them.
as for the part in red, your camp RPs so free ah, deployed to watch over contractors.