Alchoholism encouraged by the Navy?
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Taken from a blog(Source is stated below):
Ok I've been away for the past 2-3 weeks on army reserve. We went overseas for training. What did I learn? The main thing is that
DRINKING ALCOHOL IS ONE OF THE DUMBEST ACTIVITIES ON EARTH.
After our missions, the navy tradition is heavy drinking. I'm not in the navy but we were doing a combined mission so I was in on the drinking. I almost NEVER drink. I KNOW its DUMB and I don't like the taste of alcohol.
I ended up drinking 3 beers and 2 shots of whiskey. I think I can handle alcohol decently and I was alright. The next morning there was a little headachey feeling and a bit of s sore throat. You know alcohol dehydrates you right?!. But more than that, I woke up and I was PISSED OFF. I thought to myself why this was the case. My reflections...
1. I was upset with this incredibly stupid drinking culture that is supported by high ranking officers and I was under a lot of authoritarian pressure to drink. DUMB.
2. I was upset that in this culture, drinking a lot is somehow linked to manliness...DUMB.
3. I was upset with myself that I was not able to find a way out of it. Without lying, disrespect for authority, or violence.
I spent a day recovering from this incredible stupidity. That was a day which I could have used productively. That was a day I will never get back. Remember time is a NON-RENEWABLE resource.
FOOLISH DRINKING...NEVER AGAIN
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Drinking alcohol isn't as bad as you think, it can be a way to socialize with people.
Isn't alcoholism a very common trait in the seas wayyyyyyyyyy back?
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Not everyone can stand it though..
just like not everyone can drink milk and are lactose intolerant. -
maybe that's why I always see a Navy WO in uniform at the coffee shop near my place downing several jugs of Tiger beer
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ok.
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it's a tradition for the military, both local and esp foreign, to have some alcohol to celebrate occasions. I suppose it was from way back, when people feast and drink merrily when a victory is declared. The wine flowed like the river in those times.
So I guess this habit of drinking and drinking to socialise is very common.
In fact for navies, when a ship docks at a new port of call, the commander would hold a 'diplomatic' reception and drinks will be served, along with good food. This is to promote good will amongst countries. And I suppose they believe a few rounds of alcohol is perfectly safe.
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no one said its wrong to drink and sail. so i guess it's alright.
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Alcohol consumption in itself is not an evil. Moderation is all.
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promote alcoholism arh?
wel the army promotes either protitution or random sex encounters. hmmz bad influence of the military? -
man are still man....
whether in uniform or not...
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it's a tradition that dates back to days of old when sea trips took weeks.Water could not be kept for that long without going bad so wine was used.They either used wine concentrates just wine.Later when other forms were discovered like brandy then brandy was also used.
Anyway the armies drank it for the same reason.
In the old days there wasnt piped water or even clean water where ever you went.So soldiers would drink wine.Also wine and on a whole alcoholic drinks help wash wounds better. -
this is farking stupid, it's like smokers blaming tobacco companies, adulterers blaming prostitutes, and rapists blaming their victims for tempting them ....
don't tar the whole organization and call it a culture for one's lack of self control ... -
I was in the Navy 2-3 years ago as a NSF, and I will admit that drinking is a culture. I served onboard a ship that is catered for NSmen training and often when we sail overseas, the NSMen will drink, although never in open view of my SQN officers.Originally posted by Simon Dean:Taken from a blog(Source is stated below):
Ok I've been away for the past 2-3 weeks on army reserve. We went overseas for training. What did I learn? The main thing is that
DRINKING ALCOHOL IS ONE OF THE DUMBEST ACTIVITIES ON EARTH.
After our missions, the navy tradition is heavy drinking. I'm not in the navy but we were doing a combined mission so I was in on the drinking. I almost NEVER drink. I KNOW its DUMB and I don't like the taste of alcohol.
I ended up drinking 3 beers and 2 shots of whiskey. I think I can handle alcohol decently and I was alright. The next morning there was a little headachey feeling and a bit of s sore throat. You know alcohol dehydrates you right?!. But more than that, I woke up and I was PISSED OFF. I thought to myself why this was the case. My reflections...
1. I was upset with this incredibly stupid drinking culture that is supported by high ranking officers and I was under a lot of authoritarian pressure to drink. DUMB.
2. I was upset that in this culture, drinking a lot is somehow linked to manliness...DUMB.
3. I was upset with myself that I was not able to find a way out of it. Without lying, disrespect for authority, or violence.
I spent a day recovering from this incredible stupidity. That was a day which I could have used productively. That was a day I will never get back. Remember time is a NON-RENEWABLE resource.
FOOLISH DRINKING...NEVER AGAIN
captnj.blogspot.com
When our ship reaches other countries, and we will stay there for 3 days, often the NSMen will drink to their hearts' contents. But in the end, they know their limits. I sure think that Navy don't encourage drinking, but its a well-known fact that Navy personnel sure can drink. I am an exception, because I don't like drinking, as I hate the feeling of throwing out and having a bad hangover. My officers will encourage me 2 join them at times, but they do not FORCE me to go drink with them. And even if I do join them, I only drink 1 bottle or glass of Carlsberg or Tiger Beer because I know I can't. Seriously, its up to the individual to decide if he wants 2 drink or not. If you don't want, no one can force u.
Its unfair to say that the Navy supports and encourage alcholism. Some officers do that because they see it as a way to bond with their men, and know them better. Often out at sea, everyone is busy with their positions, and seldom do the whole crew get a chance 2 get together. Drinking is one of the way to bond, but whether is it the right way to bond depends on how you see it.
I am sorry that you had this bad experience, but to say the Navy encourage a drinking culture is just wrong. Like I said, its all about self-control, and if u are the strong or weak-willed type. No one can force u to do things u don't like. -
Watchyer gonna do with a drunken sailor?
Watchyer gonna do with a drunken sailor?
Watchyer gonna do with a drunken sailor?
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I agree.Originally posted by Fatum:this is farking stupid, it's like smokers blaming tobacco companies, adulterers blaming prostitutes, and rapists blaming their victims for tempting them ....
don't tar the whole organization and call it a culture for one's lack of self control ...
If you chose to do something, you should know what would happen. Just like the saying goes... "You can force the cow to the river but you can't force it to drink from it."
So, if you thinking that the society or something else forced you to do the things that you did, think again.
You can go without sex if you chose not to rape or prostitution.
You can go broke, hungry and even in depth if you chose not to steal, rob, etc...
Even if for smokers, you can chose to quit instead of spending the money and blaming the industries.
You can use a 10buck wallet instead of buying LV... -
i heard the row of shophouses near sembawang park where got pubs n coffeeshops always got sailors drinking there?
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i used to noe one ex ship navigator (he had liver cirrhosis while sailing) and he had alcoholic drinks for bruch, lunch, tea, dinner and supper...
but if you drink moderately it should be ok....
but if you step into the casino... be ready to lose your pants because the casino has a way of taking everything from you even though you wanted to gamble moderately only... -
Come on lah...there are few things in life that can beat an ice cold beer after a tough mission, where all the boys are gathered in the mess, chatting about the training over a few drinks...bonding sesssion! But if you don't drink, not your fault, but don't blame people for forcing you...a drink never hurt anyone for chrissakes!
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That why i seldom drink...
maybe military think that alchohol give the soldiers more strenght..