Taiwan F5 jet crashed and rumored to have fell at Starlight
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yea i noe..all the more they should pressure them strongly and have the assurance from them that such a thing can be prevented...Originally posted by Icemoon:In all fairness, the accident has nothing to do with SAF. It was certainly not negligence on SAF's part.
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Originally posted by Master -_-:
its disturbing to me too!why not ask himself and all the ministers to be realistic with their paycheck!1st day the serviceman died government already worried about the compensation wtf!
[b]but the victims' families need to be 'realistic' on amount of compensation they can get
Dunno la but to me, this quote seems disturbing to me
From the defence minister some more...kaoz..further dampen the trust and belief i have with the minsitry already. i think the corporal is already finishing and the private was his understudy.. poor lads..
By now, the body of the corporal will be flown back to SG already for burial.. [/b] -
i oso wonder why did they emphasis on this issue???? cmon mindef... lives r lost... someone's son died in e line of duty while serving our country n u had to emphasis e compensation has to b realistic????Originally posted by slowmover:its disturbing to me too!why not ask himself and all the ministers to be realistic with their paycheck!1st day the serviceman died government already worried about the compensation wtf!
a bit evil here... but wld e situation b different if some big a$$ shot's son was killed instead? wonder wat tis 'top brass' had done to deserve their more-than-peanuts payrise! -
It's regrettable that such a term can even come out, and I'm not surprised.Originally posted by life2121:i oso wonder why did they emphasis on this issue???? cmon mindef... lives r lost... someone's son died in e line of duty while serving our country n u had to emphasis e compensation has to b realistic????
a bit evil here... but wld e situation b different if some big a$$ shot's son was killed instead? wonder wat tis 'top brass' had done to deserve their more-than-peanuts payrise!
MINDEF, I feel, should have already offered full and unconditional assistance and compensation based on market and war risk insurance rates. Further compensation has to be demanded from the Taiwanese side, if the BOI on their side shows that negligence was to blame. -
i do understand dat they wld render their utmost help to e affected families but i jus somehow cant digest e specific line on e compensation part...Originally posted by LazerLordz:It's regrettable that such a term can even come out, and I'm not surprised.
MINDEF, I feel, should have already offered full and unconditional assistance and compensation based on market and war risk insurance rates. Further compensation has to be demanded from the Taiwanese side, if the BOI on their side shows that negligence was to blame.
as 4 e taiwanese side i really wld like 2 c wat their explanation was... my impression of them is dat they always shift e blame to others... -
Yup, the compensation part was really insensitive.Originally posted by life2121:i do understand dat they wld render their utmost help to e affected families but i jus somehow cant digest e specific line on e compensation part...
as 4 e taiwanese side i really wld like 2 c wat their explanation was... my impression of them is dat they always shift e blame to others...
Regarding the Taiwanese, only time will tell.It's not efficient work when they are concerned.. look at SQ006.. -
ya dats wat i m afraid of...Originally posted by LazerLordz:Yup, the compensation part was really insensitive.
Regarding the Taiwanese, only time will tell.It's not efficient work when they are concerned.. look at SQ006..
i believe wat most of us wan is some ans n closure ba... which i really dun tink e taiwanese side is able to provide any time soon... -
there is a death compensation gom regarding death due to in service, a death report is to be done.
mindef/saf compensate personnels in accordance to the WORKMENÂ’s COMPENSATION ACT.
more info:
1 ) http://www.mom.gov.sg/publish/momportal/en/communities/workplace_safety_and_health/maintaining_a_safe_workplace/work_injury_compensation.html
2 ) http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/cgi-bin/cgi_retrieve.pl?&actno=Reved-354&date=latest&method=part
RIP for the sarcifice of both countries' NS personnels. -
haix..one of the dead SAF soldier is my sec sch friend..RIP my friend...
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I am not sure if ROC military will provide any compensation. Since we are in their territory and as an outfit operating under their command. If they do not have rule that compensate their own ROC individual than certainly do not have to compensate SAF. not to mention it is foreigner and we are not officially there until now.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Yup, the compensation part was really insensitive.
Regarding the Taiwanese, only time will tell.It's not efficient work when they are concerned.. look at SQ006..
Again I am not sure u can talk compensation at all. They may do it out of good will. But certainly not now when their up coming high profile military excercise is to shield the invasion from PLA. -
The pilots were in partial control of the plane. They chose to crash onto the camp site to avoid killing the taiwanese crowd elsewhere?Originally posted by Arapahoe:I am not sure if ROC military will provide any compensation. Since we are in their territory and as an outfit operating under their command. If they do not have rule that compensate their own ROC individual than certainly do not have to compensate SAF. not to mention it is foreigner and we are not officially there until now.
Again I am not sure u can talk compensation at all. They may do it out of good will. But certainly not now when their up coming high profile military excercise is to shield the invasion from PLA.
All right .. they avoided a PR nightmare. They probably saved millions of dollars 'cos there is no need to compensate their own citizens. In comparison, paying for our 2 dead soldiers is peanuts to them. -
oh gosh..
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i tot this news is gonna be on the front page of newspaper.
instead i saw, "F1 comes to Singapore"...
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they gonna replace the ageing f5 s already...Originally posted by tokyofire:Taiwanese media already analysis the 3 possible.
1. Technical problem
2. Human error
3. *didn't really catch the meaning* -
Isn't 2 lives also a great loss? But i won't want to say more...just my deepest condolences to the families and may the people working in our overseas and local camps receive divine protection. Too much blood has been spilled in peace time already....Originally posted by Icemoon:The pilots were in partial control of the plane. They chose to crash onto the camp site to avoid killing the taiwanese crowd elsewhere?
All right .. they avoided a PR nightmare. They probably saved millions of dollars 'cos there is no need to compensate their own citizens. In comparison, paying for our 2 dead soldiers is peanuts to them. -
We are not operating under their command. Training detachments are training detachments.Originally posted by Arapahoe:I am not sure if ROC military will provide any compensation. Since we are in their territory and as an outfit operating under their command. If they do not have rule that compensate their own ROC individual than certainly do not have to compensate SAF. not to mention it is foreigner and we are not officially there until now.
Again I am not sure u can talk compensation at all. They may do it out of good will. But certainly not now when their up coming high profile military excercise is to shield the invasion from PLA.
We are officially there, just that it wasn't publicly acknowledged. You think we can just train in Taiwan without an MOU or a Status-Of-Forces agreement? Nah.
Who cares if their exercise is related to deterring any PLA aggression? They made a mistake, they should jolly well show some balls. -
They will not. I wouldn't put it above the Taiwan MINDEF to find someway to push the blame over to us, like the SQ006 incident, if they are as good at covering backside as we are.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Who cares if their exercise is related to deterring any PLA aggression? They made a mistake, they should jolly well show some balls.
Seeing the Taiwanese civilians on CNA laughing their heads off like nothing has happened, when they could easily have been the ones who died, makes my blood boil. No respect for the dead. -
RIP.
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if im not wrong, they could be from 6 sir. my fren went there for training. and just last night when i was out with my fren, he was told he had to go back to camp. cuz some soldier passed away in taiwan. if my fren have more news, i'll see whether i can update here anot.
anyway they are going to claim the body today and perform the funeral rites. fren's weekend burnt liao. he made alot of noise. -
Saturday May 12, 2:17 PM
SAF medical team leaves for Taiwan to attend to injured servicemen
SINGAPORE : A team of five SAF doctors left for Taiwan on Friday afternoon.
They will be working with the Taiwanese medical authorities to stabilise the two SAF servicemen warded in the Intensive Care Units of Taipei Tri-service Hospital so that they can be brought back to Singapore as soon as it is medically advisable to do so.
The two servicemen who died in the incident have been identified as 19-year-old Corporal (CPL) Isz Sazli Bin Sapari and 23-year-old Private (PTE) Fan Yao Jin.
Their next of kin have been informed.
MINDEF and the SAF extend their deepest condolences to the families of the late CPL Isz Sazli and PTE Fan, and will be assisting the families in their time of grief.
The Ministry has made arrangements for the next of kin of the affected SAF personnel to be flown to Taiwan.
They will be accompanied by family-liaison officers and counsellors from the SAF.
MINDEF and the SAF will continue to work with the Taiwanese authorities to provide support and assistance to the affected servicemen and their families. - CNA/ch -
The remains of the late Corporal (CPL) Isz Sazli Bin Sapari were brought back to Singapore by a RSAF C-130 aircraft at 3.15 p.m. today. He will be accorded a full military funeral at the Pusara Abadi Cemetery in Lim Chu Kang this evening at 5:15 pm.
Separately, arrangements are underway to transport the the remains of the late Private (PTE) Fan Yao Jin back to Singapore tomorrow after the completion of religious rites as requested by his family. The late Private Fan will also be accorded a full military funeral.
MINDEF and the SAF are continuing to render assistance and support to the families of the late CPL Isz and PTE Fan. -
Maybe your friend has to understand that his burnt weekend is much lesser than the pain of the families of our dear fellow men of SAF who lost their precious lives...Originally posted by Unknown_X:if im not wrong, they could be from 6 sir. my fren went there for training. and just last night when i was out with my fren, he was told he had to go back to camp. cuz some soldier passed away in taiwan. if my fren have more news, i'll see whether i can update here anot.
anyway they are going to claim the body today and perform the funeral rites. fren's weekend burnt liao. he made alot of noise. -
Sad to say, many youth today have no sense of proportion.Originally posted by dork3d:Maybe your friend has to understand that his burnt weekend is much lesser than the pain of the families of our dear fellow men of SAF who lost their precious lives...
What is a weekend lost when your mate has lost his life, and a family is grieiving. Never mind, these selfish people will wake up when they have to actually do the duty in a military funeral itself. -
if he is from my unit, i would volunteer man...