SAR-21 and the future of assault rifles
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This is a question posted to current users of the SAR-21. Preferrably answered by someone who had the experience of firing an M16S1 or A2/A3. With the advent of bullpup designs and the various "improvements" in the world of assualt rifles, what other luxuries can you possibly imagine?
To suggest a few, how would you like:
1)50 round magazines
2)No case ejection out of the rifle during firing
3)A counter to keep track of the ammunition remaining
4)NO LASER AIMING DEVICES (I personally find this function redundent and intrusive)
5)Truly ambidextrous design( left and right hand firers welcome)
6)Superior protection from chamber explosions
7)Active cooling (very desireable for fully automatic weapons)
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Can I have a 10 round magazined rifle that can hit a bull's eye within 1 second of aiming?
The future should be speed and accuracy
A kill within the shortest possible time 
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Your enemy is not a bull. Neither issit the eye. And there are usually 2 of them. There is no fufure in animal cruelty.
But I know where you are coming from. And we have that already, it's called a sniper. -
Scrap the LAD and fix a floating red-dot sight.
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heard that the LAD is heavy. is that true?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Scrap the LAD and fix a floating red-dot sight. -
It's heavy and the battery compartment is not exactly waterproof.Originally posted by Gordonator:heard that the LAD is heavy. is that true?
The LAD serves no tactical purpose in the field except giving away your position. Unless you are using the IR mode. -
coming soon.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Scrap the LAD and fix a floating red-dot sight.
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i see. would u happen to know how heavy bro?Originally posted by LazerLordz:It's heavy and the battery compartment is not exactly waterproof. -
I didn't actually measure the weight.Originally posted by Gordonator:i see. would u happen to know how heavy bro?
But the whole receiver section weighs around 1+ kg. Including the muzzle, gas regulator and scope. -
how u know xiaOriginally posted by Hellraiza:coming soon.
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It's true.Originally posted by relackjack:how u know xia -
Hooray.
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One other question: any issue with fogging of the optical scope? I hear that happens very often with the SA80, but they operate in cold climate so that's probably their problem.
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what is it like xiaOriginally posted by Hellraiza:coming soon. -
Is SAR-21 a good rifles...
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lols, i think we all forgot about one part. perhaps the future of assault rifles has come to a point that without compromising effectiveness, we should also look at ways to make it smaller, lighter and more lethal
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Can we have a silencer attachment available to every rifle?Originally posted by crosshairs:Your enemy is not a bull. Neither issit the eye. And there are usually 2 of them. There is no fufure in animal cruelty.
But I know where you are coming from. And we have that already, it's called a sniper.
So that our position will not be so easily given away after the first shot
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Silenced weapons fire subsonic ammunition, and in the case of the MP5SD it uses normal 9mm parabellum which comes out of the barrel subsonic anyways. Subsonic ammunition has greatly reduced speed and is therefore not very useful in stopping the target.Originally posted by maggot:Can we have a silencer attachment available to every rifle?
So that our position will not be so easily given away after the first shot -
I don't think i would like any rifle smaller than the SAR21. Cuz, you know, to us guys, SIZE MATTERS.Originally posted by Lance_han:lols, i think we all forgot about one part. perhaps the future of assault rifles has come to a point that without compromising effectiveness, we should also look at ways to make it smaller, lighter and more lethal -
The only thing i can say is, the SAR21 MMS is front-heavy, cuz of all the cool gadgets mounted onto the rail system.Originally posted by relackjack:what is it like xia -
SAR 21 the front is heavy..
Cannot wayang in sleeping position when stand tool in outfield.. haiz... -
your sergeant never teach you to use a y-branch to prop the barrel up arh?Originally posted by Eiizumi:SAR 21 the front is heavy..
Cannot wayang in sleeping position when stand tool in outfield.. haiz... -
Why is SAR-21 front heavy? Doesn't that partially defeat the purpose of having a bullpup weapon?
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crosshairs.....
if the front is heavy, the back will get a chance to kick up more...
but when you put all factors into play, like holding the handguard firm,pulling it towards you, you will reduce the recoil signifigantly...the weight of the weapon will do another part.... that's only if you fire 1 shot at a time...
i went to range and fired the BTP..most of the recoil was absorbed by the positions i taken up, and the weight of the weapon reduced the upward recoil...
but i have never fired it in automatic mode before..so i don't know if it does still apply.... -
Tried SAR21 in auto...if you're doing it in controlled burst of 2-3 rounds, no problem. The moment you decide to do a John Rambo...sight picture goes out the window. You just practically spray and pray