NS: By Law, Even NCC Kid MUST Address REC(NS) "Sir", Right?
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u and i can differentiate because we have been through the army. but the general public might not be able to.Originally posted by KenPlus:Can differentiate,they look exactly like small bois leh LOL,especially those small bois with SSG MSG ranks even easier to see LOL
even if everyone can differentiate, the point is still they are wearing SAF uniform. proper behaviors while in public must be maintained. -
yes i share the same sentiments as you. having different coloured ranks will be ideal.Originally posted by SpecOps87:Actually...clear distinction can be made by the cadets...donning epaluttes (not sure how to spell) with a white stripe for them to be seen as cadets from afar. Or perhaps...have something like a different coloured rank for them? The above is because, Cadet Lieutenants have a white bar to represent cadet and a black bar to represent lieutenant. So i gather...more appropriate this way isn't it?
but i also find this strange, why must NCC students have ranks in the first place? since this is just am ECA, why not just make everyone wear the uniform without ranks regardless of which year u are in. for student commanders, they can just wear the sergeant armband.
having NCC students wearing SSG/MSG ranks with the national coat of arms is inapporpiate. -
children playing soldiers and talking big, nothing more.
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The US' Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps is similar to our NCC, but limited to 16 and above. They wear the same ranks as the US Army but uniform wearing is limited to once a week, and it has to be their best uniform.Originally posted by Gordonator:yes i share the same sentiments as you. having different coloured ranks will be ideal.
but i also find this strange, why must NCC students have ranks in the first place? since this is just am ECA, why not just make everyone wear the uniform without ranks regardless of which year u are in. for student commanders, they can just wear the sergeant armband.
having NCC students wearing SSG/MSG ranks with the national coat of arms is inapporpiate.
What I think NCC should do, is to keep the ranks, but instead of the national coat of arms, place the NCC insignia there instead. Same for the Singapore tag, put NCC instead.
And for the ranks, maybe white would be better. -
WAH CB.
btw the ony thing that ncc does to prepare u for NS, is the marching drills. how to smart fold.
yeah thats about it, and probably getting to fire a m16 before ur time, but anyway when most of ur other peers enter, all using sar, so u can at least tell them u fired both before.
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NPCC also using Coat of Arms for their STAFF and SIs what...anyway...think the NCC tag idea instead of the SINGAPORE TAG is good. If go overseas, mebbe put SINGAPORE NCC instead for identification, since if we wear flag on our sleeves sure kena again. Put Singapore NCC best liao
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wah lao eh.
i'll be seeing SSG/MSG Minahs on the bus with the Singapore tag on the number 4.
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Since most of you are worried about the behaviour of the cadets in public, why not make write in and suggest that they should not wear their uniform while off training?
but the sad thing is SAF allows the soldiers to do so. So will NCC. -
its not a sad thing for the SAF to allow their soldiers to don uniforms when out of the workplace.
at some camps, you can't book in / out in civilian attire.
but that is WORK.
the kids are using it for ECA. -
Write in la.
I agree to a certain extent also. Because its a professional job that the soldiers do and they should be proud of it. But however, misinterpretation by the public or even worse, enemy/terrorist can be a very serious situation.
Well, I was in the NPCC and back then we were the only uniformed group that does not allow the uniform to be on in public unless we were on duty.
well its the same for the SPF. -
actually, if based on protocol.Originally posted by Pitot:Since most of you are worried about the behaviour of the cadets in public, why not make write in and suggest that they should not wear their uniform while off training?
but the sad thing is SAF allows the soldiers to do so. So will NCC.
the kids are supposed to go back straight home after ncc training. -
Err wah liao they wearing boots that look like Gortex boots lah!! Could be made of canvas though but still!!!
I only got issued 2 leather boots!!!
oh well 50 more weeks to ORD! -
that's where the difference comes in. SPF officers have powers over the general public, while only a select few SAF personnel do. (dunno if that new initiative has been implemented yet).Originally posted by Pitot:Write in la.
I agree to a certain extent also. Because its a professional job that the soldiers do and they should be proud of it. But however, misinterpretation by the public or even worse, enemy/terrorist can be a very serious situation.
Well, I was in the NPCC and back then we were the only uniformed group that does not allow the uniform to be on in public unless we were on duty.
well its the same for the SPF. -
that's because they don't want the public to mistaken u all for real policeman. and to ensure that u all don't misuse the uniform.Originally posted by Pitot:Well, I was in the NPCC and back then we were the only uniformed group that does not allow the uniform to be on in public unless we were on duty.
since NPCC can make students change in school i don't understand why NCC cannot? -
I also support the idea of either changing the uniform (the previous gen uniform-all green no camo) or banned kids from wearing them outside the school premises.
It is quite insulting to see the ginnas playing catching at bus terminals in No.4 and making fool out of themselves. SAF said what add insignias to uniform to bring pride to the soliders but seeing the ginnas making a fool out of the uniform makes the whole thing seems pointless.
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It's probably just to change in line with the SAF... There're bound to be black sheeps in any community.
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Some schools that I know do the "change into cv after training" thing. The cadets said very sian as the training already tire them out and ask them to change back then go home very troublesome.
My school still allow us to wear the no 4 back home. But they really emphasize on the "go home straight" rule. Got quite a few mates received punishment as they went to the shopping center go shop shop. We also have to follow the "Wear uniform no entertainment places, sit properly, project good image, no mp3" rule, but a few actually abide by them.
They still have their pink ics -
It's a very serious matter.
We should compile a report and write to the respective agencies soon. -
sometimes i see NCC boys so cute
their uniform got XS size for them, esp those small build ones
i say c'mon, some kids really like to wear the army uniform lor
NCC is just an ECA
an uniformed group surely need a rank structure right ?
and y is there need to differentiate so much ?
SAF n NCC got better things to do then come out new ranks
NCC empulets enough liao
They are jus kids btw
let them enjoy few more years then they will all know
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You know my foreign friend mistook someof the malay NCC people (No offence, but it seems all the black sheep are mstly malays leh) to be SAF!
I didn't realise it at first, but it dawned on me when he said "I thought your conscription starts at 18? Why have they suddenly changed the rule?"
I nearly died. -
I sort of agree with you. According to my friend, he's seen it not only amongst cadets, but specialists and CLTs as well. Nuff' said...Originally posted by chanjyj:You know my foreign friend mistook someof the malay NCC people (No offence, but it seems all the black sheep are mstly malays leh) to be SAF!
I didn't realise it at first, but it dawned on me when he said "I thought your conscription starts at 18? Why have they suddenly changed the rule?"
I nearly died. -
saf got good reputation meh?Originally posted by Gordonator:NCC shouldn't look too identical to SAF soldiers. that's because the general public cannot differeniate between who is who.
some of the things NCC students do outside in uniforms can be a sore eye. like talking loudly on public transport. wearing oversized uniforms/boots, dragging their boots etc. -
if NCC don't want to make the students change to PE attire after ECA, at the very least make them wear vest-slack attire. example NCC t-shirt with camou pants and boots.
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err, following protocol set down by hq.Originally posted by Gordonator:if NCC don't want to make the students change to PE attire after ECA, at the very least make them wear vest-slack attire. example NCC t-shirt with camou pants and boots.
u cannot be seen outside half dressed.
either u wear no.4 or u wear pe attire. but very few change back to their pt kit, since its rather troublesome having to carry the boots etc. -
I still remember the time when i was sitting down and saw someone with a sergeant rank walk past but when i look at the face gin na nia. Tmd i was fool by the uniform
