Guards / Commandos / Rangers / NDU FAQ
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Originally posted by jus-tea:
"All commandos have to achieve gold for their IPPT. Even if you are logistic store men or a clerk if I remember correctly."
this is utter bullshit. When do you remember this from? It's was NEVER like that. Never during my father's time 30 over years ago and not during my time too. They are logisticians and Clerical staff for a reason.
roughly 50 over go to CSLC and out of which about 20 over go to OCS. CDO is mono intake NOT because it's a non leadership intake. The CDO intake is mono because we choose our own people, ALL CDO nsf are mono intake. officers and specs are all chosen from the 250 odd. There are no exceptions (unless you're a regular convert). Lokey please stop feeding them wrong info
And I remember this line from a current air steward who is a pes B posted to a commando storemen 3 years ago. That why I say "if I remember correctly".
Perhaps if you misunderstood my posting also. Unlike Navy, if you can pass IPPT, you will get OFF tomolo already. It is different world out there.
And I do remember that the CDO wants to achieve 100% gold, certainly they will not let you off easy if you failed or just pass.
And unlike Tekong, more than 50% of the platoon go SISPEC, including my cousin who go in BSLC 2 weeks ago and he is just an average performer. He is really good at dancing though.
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It's a different world out there? what in the world does that mean? Do honestly think your hearsays from friends, work partners etc are always accurate? By trying to pass off heresay as information only confuses the people who are genuinely looking for answers here.
What you fail to understand is that tekong, provides leaders throughout the ENTIRE tri service. The cdo mono intakes grooms leaders for each batch. So don't spew bullshit like cdo's mono intake is just like all the mono-intakes which transends to non-leadership. Post what you know, not what you heard. Even if it kills u not to say anything. At least say that u heard from someone, not bloody from your own experience. "If i remember correctly" and "if i remember what my friend who was a XXX from XXX" makes a hell of a difference
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Originally posted by jus-tea:
s a different world out there? what in the world does that mean? Do honestly think your hearsays from friends, work partners etc are always accurate? By trying to pass off heresay as information only confuses the people who are genuinely looking for answers here.
What you fail to understand is that tekong, provides leaders throughout the ENTIRE tri service. The cdo mono intakes grooms leaders for each batch. So don't spew bullshit like cdo's mono intake is just like all the mono-intakes which transends to non-leadership. Post what you know, not what you heard. Even if it kills u not to say anything. At least say that u heard from someone, not bloody from your own experience. "If i remember correctly" and "if i remember what my friend who was a XXX from XXX" makes a hell of a difference
I know that the commando trained their own spec and officer. I am saying that it is not a non-leadership batch. You dont get what I meant.I still say it is a non-leadership batch because it is a mono-intake. There are non-leadership batch in Tekong also, do you know that? And it is not a mono-intake.
At the end of the day, you still have not answered the poster, about is it a requirement to get gold for ippt to get to CSLC?
And also explain how did the 1CDO get their Best Unit from the SAF Best Unit Competition?
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"IT is after all a mono intake ("non- military leader"). "
Care to explain the above? CDO intakes don't fall within the norms of leadership and non-leadership batch cos we're the only ones in the Army operating this way. Training our own men, leaders and commanders from scratch. Yes i know u're still saying it, and i'm telling u, again. You're saying it wrong. Gold is not a must. But it does help. A leader needs to be fit to lead his men, especially if he leads the army's best. IPPT is not the only factor for best combat unit you fool.
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Originally posted by jus-tea:
"IT is after all a mono intake ("non- military leader"). "
Care to explain the above? CDO intakes don't fall within the norms of leadership and non-leadership batch cos we're the only ones in the Army operating this way. Training our own men, leaders and commanders from scratch. Yes i know u're still saying it, and i'm telling u, again. You're saying it wrong. Gold is not a must. But it does help. A leader needs to be fit to lead his men, especially if he leads the army's best. IPPT is not the only factor for best combat unit you fool.
I know what you are saying. You are speaking as in CDO guy's shoes. But if you are a poly student who are picking to go to volunteer for VA for CDO, and has the intention of becoming a SGT. You may want to evaluate if you are fit enough to get gold for IPPT(CDO standard) in a CDO unit, vs being in Tekong aiming for SGT. The ultimate goal is just being a SGT only.Of course, being a SGT in CDO is the best outcome, so that what is the probability of getting in. What is his chances of meeting the standard of getting gold to get in.
If you are not being enlisted, you have this freedom.
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I realised after we caught so many of your bluffs you've never once conceeded that you were wrong. It's the vocation, if you're talking purely on rank then y not just become a CQMS. easiest. Commandos play a different role in the SAF thus the requirements are much different from tekong which houses most of the other vocations.
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Hey jus-tea, you still in service?
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Hi I got my VA letter at hendon camp last week and went for my interview on 27th, when will i get to know whether i made it or not eh?
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Originally posted by jus-tea:
I realised after we caught so many of your bluffs you've never once conceeded that you were wrong. It's the vocation, if you're talking purely on rank then y not just become a CQMS. easiest. Commandos play a different role in the SAF thus the requirements are much different from tekong which houses most of the other vocations.
There is no right or wrong in anything, if you turn your camera angle and look in another perspective
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hi. i just would like to know, the confinement for commandoes is 2 weeks right? after which they will book out every friday evening or saturday?
how are the people in commandoes like? and people i mean, the recruit..
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Heya all,
just some questions for those who recently went for the CDO VA:
1)Does the Physical Test component include a run?
2)Did the medical test section require blood sampling again (even after they did it at CMPB)?
Thanks
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Originally posted by Lokey:I am hyberbaric trained. Dude.
The amount of time you spent with your head up your CO's arse is of absolutely no interest to me.
Stop playing your silly little games. I'll ask you a very simple yes-or-no answer: are you or have you ever been a Navy diver?
I don't care if you're hyperbaric trained, I don't care if you can recite the decompression tables backwards in your sleep, I don't care if you can field-strip a regulator.
Are you or have you ever been a Navy diver?
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Originally posted by Lokey:
There is no right or wrong in anything, if you turn your camera angle and look in another perspective
Is that a fact now?
Okay, Mr Hitchcock, please tell me what camera angle you would use to make a pot of water go colder over a fire?
What camera angle would you use to make 1+1=3?
What camera angle would you use to make two solid objects occupy the same space?
You fool.
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Originally posted by Mationsbuds:
Heya all,
just some questions for those who recently went for the CDO VA:
1)Does the Physical Test component include a run?
2)Did the medical test section require blood sampling again (even after they did it at CMPB)?
Thanks
It's been twenty years, but:
1) Yes
2) No
Check with jus-tea if either has changed.
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Originally posted by chickenuggets:
hi. i just would like to know, the confinement for commandoes is 2 weeks right? after which they will book out every friday evening or saturday?
how are the people in commandoes like? and people i mean, the recruit..
Don't count on booking out - regardless of what unit you're in, there are plenty of reasons for burned weekends.
Not sure what you mean by "how are the people in commandoes like?". Please expand.
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Originally posted by jus-tea:
It's a different world out there? what in the world does that mean? Do honestly think your hearsays from friends, work partners etc are always accurate? By trying to pass off heresay as information only confuses the people who are genuinely looking for answers here.
Spot-on. This asshole pops in here trying to impress school kids because they're about the only people whose eyes he can pull the wool over, and in the process he has diluted the ninformation in this thread with a whole lot of bullshit (and then justfies it with more bullshit about camera angles). The only thing we can do is try to ensure that people know he's full of shit.
By the way, are you going for the formation dinner? If you are, let's catch up there!
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Hi all.
So is it really true that it will be hard to get into ocs after getting into Cdo?
If so, what kind of challenges are there?
Sorry for all the trouble caused. Although I have seen Lokey's answers, it just sounded so unconvincing and bias somehow. haha. maybe someone could give a better answer to all this.
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To Gedanken;
what about public holiday? we will book out in the morning and book in back at night? how about rainy days do we still train like normal days?
i mean, the influence level. is it true that i will probably come out to be a smoker?
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Originally posted by chickenuggets:
To Gedanken;
what about public holiday? we will book out in the morning and book in back at night? how about rainy days do we still train like normal days?
i mean, the influence level. is it true that i will probably come out to be a smoker?
About rainy days- most probably I would think, it is the ARMY after-all. Although they might make exceptions when there is lighting alerts?
About smoking influences: Its more of an individual choice and one's ability to withstand the perceived pressures of being a smoker. Just set your mind to it and never even touch a cigarette (thats pretty much my stance) :)
Originally posted by DauntingDoom:Hi all.
So is it really true that it will be hard to get into ocs after getting into Cdo?
If so, what kind of challenges are there?
Sorry for all the trouble caused. Although I have seen Lokey's answers, it just sounded so unconvincing and bias somehow. haha. maybe someone could give a better answer to all this.
Mhmm I would think that its somewhat tougher as you really have to stand out among everyone else. CDO already is an elite force and so you essentially have to be the 'elite of the elite' (simply put). The road might be tough and draining but I'm sure the reward's worth it (and no I dont necessarily mean monetary- its also about satisfaction etc)
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Originally posted by Mationsbuds:
About rainy days- most probably I would think, it is the ARMY after-all. Although they might make exceptions when there is lighting alerts?
About smoking influences: Its more of an individual choice and one's ability to withstand the perceived pressures of being a smoker. Just set your mind to it and never even touch a cigarette (thats pretty much my stance) :)
i see. thank you. and i guess it is also true that sometimes we don't get to bookout on weekends?
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Originally posted by Gedanken:
It's been twenty years, but:
1) Yes
2) No
Check with jus-tea if either has changed.
No more run. Everything except for the run -
Hey guys I have a few queries regarding NS, particularly commando and I hope you guys can answer my queries
- How long is the Commando BMT at pasir ris?
- As a commando, can you be a specialist? I heard that after their BMT they can go OCS but what about SCS?
- Can enlistee be posted to be warrant officers? or are they a rank that is attained through promotion in the specialist rank?
- Enlistee from commando unit can be neither specialist nor officer right? That is, they can only attain their ranks of private up to coporal etc?-What are the chances of being officer in tekong BMT and commando BMT like? likewise, for specialist, what are its chances too? (:
-what are the mono-intake units in SAF other than commando? by mentioning non-leadership, it means they can only go up the rank in the enlistee ranks? not specialist etc?
- What's a regular convert? can we apply to be regulars before or during our NSF period? Do they really stand a higher chance to be cdo officers?
Thanks and I greatly appreciate your help
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- Are salaries paid monthly for cdo or after their red berets parade as a lump sum?
- If an individual never gets to SISPEC or OCS, does that mean they cannot attain the rank or 3rd sgt or 2nd lt etcs after their BMT?
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Originally posted by Lokey:
There is no right or wrong in anything, if you turn your camera angle and look in another perspective
Right is Right and Wrong is Wrong, what do u mean by no right or no wrong? All of the ex-CDOs/CDOs here said based on their true experiences and facts.Should you think you should just back off slightly on related CDO matters? Leave them to us.
Hi Gedanken and Jus-tea, I was formerly from 1st Coy, Jul batch, 92'
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Originally posted by H&G:
Right is Right and Wrong is Wrong, what do u mean by no right or no wrong? All of the ex-CDOs/CDOs here said based on their true experiences and facts.Should you think you should just back off slightly on related CDO matters? Leave them to us.
Hi Gedanken and Jus-tea, I was formerly from 1st Coy, Jul batch, 92'
idk. during my times in my unit, those who got ippt silver can get a day off; those who failed dont have. To ME, isnt those who failed is being punished for not doing well and on top of that they have "extra" training? (My friend did mentioned that he had to stay back to get the "gold" for the off in CDO.)
On another setting during my NS days, my boss did recommend day off for the CDO boys that had joined in our exercise. The CDO commander said "it is their duty." And ok, I was thinking, I was not in concern, it was their unit affairs anyway...
As I say, it is their unit affair anyway. Please noted that I am only addressing to people who are still "civilian". I dont think there is anything wrong with it, it is an open forum here. Those people who are serious in confining their CDO affairs, they should go to NS.sg. There is a unit forum there.
Wow... my friend's IC starts with S92 ... . I think ROD personnel should stay retired. lol