Guards / Commandos / Rangers / NDU FAQ
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Refer:
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/join_us/careers/saf_career_schemes.html
Army Recruitment Centre
3 Depot Road #01-66
Singapore 109680HOTLINE
1800 - OUR ARMY (687 2769)
PARKING
Public Carpark directly opposite Depot Road
MRT
Queenstown MRT Station
Redhill MRT StationBUSES
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Can Inf Reg also apply for the ranger course?
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Please ask your S1 Manpower Officer/ Chief Clerk for the application form. -
How many intake is there to CSLC? thanks.
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It is per batch per Commando BMT intake.
Commando unit conducts their own command courses.
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Originally posted by eac:
It is per batch per Commando BMT intake.
Commando unit conducts their own command courses.
Hi eac,
Meaning to say that if one fail to get into CSLC in the first round, one can never get into CSLC again or get converted into OCS?
By the way, is it possible for commandos to cross over to air force pilot trainee after bmt?
Thank you.
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Yes, you are right.As each commando fighter trainee goes into his own specialised vocation skills set unique for each platoon section, it takes time to train his skills. So if you do not meet the cut for command school, you will still be trained to be a specialised commando who will also wear the red beret once you pass the commando vocational training.
For crossover if you sign on, it is on a case-by-case basis. Therefore, please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Originally posted by eac:
Yes, you are right.As each commando fighter trainee goes into his own specialised vocation skills set unique for each platoon section, it takes time to train his skills. So if you do not meet the cut for command school, you will still be trained to be a specialised commando who will also wear the red beret once you pass the commando vocational training.
For crossover if you sign on, it is on a case-by-case basis. Therefore, please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
Hey eac,
Thanks a lot! But is it possible to join the CSLC again after VT? lol. Like join the next batch...?
So the crossover is only possible if one signs on... I see.
Thanks!
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It is most highly very unlikely because by then, you will be a trained specialised commando corporal in your platoon section.
Also, there will not be enough time since by then too, the intake batch will also going to turn operational, preparing for ATEC and then ORD as per schedule.
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I strongly urge to suggest that to please call the NS hotline at 1800-3676767 for your queries. It is 24 hours, 7 days a week round the clock NS service call centre for your questions on NS issues.
There are reasons why some sensitive details are not on the public domain such as specific data.
Else, you can go to www.ns.sg / www.mindef.gov.sg / read the Pioneer magazine / cyberPioneer online for all publicly released information by Mindef.
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Hi, trying to find out if anyone who went for the commando VA has received the letter yet. I went for my commando VA on 22 Jan 2013. I'm in the ptp batch as well but i haven't received any letter yet. Just anxious for the result. Cheers.
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Refer:
1. http://www.ns.sg/nsp/web/esvcs/mindef/nsreg/enq-enlist-status
2. http://iprep.ns.sg/enlistment-schedule.html
3. http://iprep.ns.sg/notices-and-timeline.html
4. Call 24/7 toll-free NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
You will receive notices from the Central Manpower Base (CMPB) at different times before enlistment.
There are 2 important notices you'll receive from CMPB, these are listed below:
Registration notice: you'll get this notice when you reach 17½ years old. It will inform you to do your NS registration.
Enlistment notice: this notice will be sent to you about 2 months before the Date of Enlistment (DOE). -
Originally posted by Hoven:
Hi, trying to find out if anyone who went for the commando VA has received the letter yet. I went for my commando VA on 22 Jan 2013. I’m in the ptp batch as well but i haven’t received any letter yet.
Just anxious for the result. Cheers.If you haven't receive your letter by now, doubt you didn't get in.
I went for VA on 6th Feb and received my letter on 17th April.
Did you check the NS BMT Enlist Date Query at www.NS.sg or call 1800-3676767? I heard that it is instant result know when is the date instead of waiting for the NS Notice Letter by snail mail...By the way, is anyone enlisting on 14th June PTP batch?
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Originally posted by Sabrotguin:
Hey bro Hoven sorry to be the one to tell you this but if you haven't received your letter by now, chances are that you didn't get in. I went for VA on 6th Feb and received my letter on 17th April. You should check out ns.sg and enquire about your enlistment status or call CMPB to confirm.
By the way, is anyone enlisting on 14th June PTP batch?
Although still waiting for the NS Enlist Notice letter to post to my letterbox, I wonder should I call the NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to ask a customer service officer to get my official, direct and instant date and time or check the www.NS.sg to find out and know instantly the NS BMT date and time...Did you check the NS BMT Enlist Date Query at www.NS.sg or call 1800-3676767? I heard that it is instant result know when is the date instead of waiting for the NS Notice Letter by snail mail...
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Refer:
1. http://www.ns.sg/nsp/web/esvcs/mindef/nsreg/enq-enlist-status
2. http://iprep.ns.sg/enlistment-schedule.html
3. http://iprep.ns.sg/notices-and-timeline.html
4. Call 24/7 toll-free NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer. -
You are posted to: GUARDS
Your Vocation is: Light Strike Trooper @
Guards Conversion Course
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved December 28, 2011.
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The Guards are infantry soldiers who are proficient in helicopter operations. All Guardsmen are taught and trained to be comfortable working with helicopters. They are proficient in Terminal Air Guidance, in the setting up of landing sites as well as communicating with the pilots.
To ensure that Guardsmen are able to land in any conditions, they are taught the normal emplaning and deplaning drills, all Guardsmen are able to execute hover-jump, heli-rapelling, and fast-rope down, in full battle order.
The specialised skills that Guardsmen possess are vital to the SAF as they add a new dimension to the modern battlefield. To achieve such high standards is not without blood, sweat and tears. The men are put through some of the most rigorous training. To be worthy of adorning the muchh sought-after 'Guards' shoulder tab and the Khaki beret, trainees have to go through the gruelling 'Guards Officers Conversion Course' for officers and 'Guards Specialist Conversion Course' for specialists.
The men go through the 'Guards Advanced Continuation Training' (GACT) to earn their mark as Guardsmen. These conversion courses push every soldier physically and mentally to the limit and only those who qualify will be given the right to be called a 'Guardsmen'.
Rappelling and Roping
In battle, Guardsmen are noted for their rapid deployment of troops. Their rapid deployment is by helicopter. Thus, an important part of their training has to do with helicopters. This entails not only rapid disembarkation techniques but also rappelling, coming down from the chopper via long ropes. A nice landing area may not always be available, and Guards units may have to rappel straight into battle zones, or onto rooftops.
The Guards have to master many kinds of rappelling from cliffs and buildings. In one method, they come down a cliff head-downwards. All this business of jumping off cliffs may sound scary but the Guards are used to it such that it is second nature to them.The Guards are infantry soldiers who are proficient in helicopter operations.[6] All Guardsmen are taught and trained to be comfortable working with helicopters. They are proficient in Terminal Air Guidance, in the setting up of landing sites as well as communicating with the pilots.
To achieve such high standards, trainees are put through some of the most rigorous training within the Singapore Armed Forces. To be worthy of donning the coveted "Guards" shoulder tab and the Khaki beret, trainees have to go through the gruelling Guards Officers Conversion Course for officers and Guards Specialist Conversion Course for Specialists. The enlisted men go through the Guards Advanced Infantry Training (GAIT) to earn their mark as Guardsmen.[6] These conversion courses signify the conversion from regular infantry to the elite Guardsmen and push every soldier physically and mentally to the limit. Only those who qualify will be given the right to be called a "Guardsman", wearing the coveted khaki beret. In Dec 2011, the Ministry of Defence (Singapore) released a 7-part web series on the Guards Conversion Course, titled Making The Cut: Guards Conversion Course.
Part of the conversion requires the soldier to undergo a timed 12 km fast march, a 2 km coastal swim and an advanced obstacle course known as the Guards Assault Course (GAC). The GAC is a team course that requires the group of soldiers to swim 50 meters, to climb a high tower, rappel down a tower and complete a 5 km run with a standard SAF obstacle course and carry an "injured" teammate on a stretcher for the last 1.5 kilometers. The entire course is done in full battle order (FBO) with packs packed with sandbags to reach the required weight requirement. Guardsmen are also required to maintain a strict physical fitness regime throughout their careers.
The Guards are trained to be inserted and extracted from the combat zone by helicopter, hence the term "heliborne". They can do this either by rapid disembarkation while the helicopter is landing, or by "rappelling" (descending by rope while the helicopter hovers) and fast roping straight into battle zones, or onto rooftops.[6] As a nice landing area may not always be available, the Guards have to master many kinds of rappelling from cliffs and buildings.[7] In one method, they come down a cliff head-downwards. In case they are wounded in a leg and cannot use their legs to brace themselves against the cliff face, they also learn to come down with their backs facing the cliff, and also in a stretcher.[7] Another dangerous method, but at times necessary for a fast and decisive strike, would be "running" down a cliff. This method is known as the "Australian rappel".[8]
Guards are also specialised in seaborne assault such as coastal hook, which is an offensive manoeuvre initiated by army forces and executed by forces embarked in surface water craft using the coastal sea or river as an axis of movement, to outflank the enemy in order to accomplish the assigned tactical mission.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved December 28, 2011.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved January 5, 2012.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved January 12, 2012.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved January 19, 2012.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved January 26, 2012.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved February 2, 2012.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved February 9, 2012.
These conversion courses signify the conversion from regular infantry to the elite Guardsmen and push every soldier physically and mentally to the limit.
Only those who qualify will be given the right to be called a "Guardsman", wearing the coveted khaki beret.
In Dec 2011, the Ministry of Defence (Singapore) released a 7-part web series on the Guards Conversion Course, titled Making The Cut: Guards Conversion Course.
@ YouTube = www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psfb-xhYwxI
Making The Cut: Guards Conversion Course is a Singaporean documentary released in 2011. Filmed at the Bedok Camp. 122 soldiers from all walks of life attempt to survive the toughest challenge in 3 weeks to get the Guardsman tab. 7 episodes will be released. The first episode airs on 28 December 2011 on Youtube, subsequent episodes were released on Every Thursday, each clip lasted for 6 to 8 minutes.
The series was filmed by Lance Corporal (LCP) Jake Nam, a Full-Time National Serviceman from DMC. Mano Mahendran serves as narrator of the show.
To earn the Guardsman tab, all personals must endure this 3 weeks compulsory training, all 122 personals from all walks of life, from a active regular to a NSF's 3SG, although not all will survive the training, but the toughest one will then be given the final honour and can be a highly-trained specialised troopers who are always "Ready to Strike".
Taking 15,000 quick steps in full battle order that weighs almost 30kg is anything but easy. This is just one of the key tasks every trainee must pass to go to the next level of training in this intensive and tough 3-week Guards Conversion Course. Making the Cut looks at 122 full-time national servicemen and regulars from various SAF units, coming together for a single purpose, to attain the coveted khaki beret and to be part of the Guards family.
In this first episode, watch how the Guardsmen trainees adapt to the high standards of discipline and training required of every Guardsman and their introduction to the dreaded 12km fast march. And watch how some try and overcome their fear of heights when they're introduced to cliff rappelling, every Guardsmen's staple of operations.
They take blisters, abrasions and pain in their strides as they race against time to complete the 12km fast march in under 108 minutes.
This is their final test. There is no second chance and no room for failure.
Watch how these trainees push themselves hard to pass this test of endurance which is one of the key tasks they must complete to obtain the coveted Guards tab.
Also in this episode, the trainees are introduced to tower rappelling, a feat not for the faint hearted.
While some breeze through it, others try hard to overcome their fear of heights.
The strong downwash from the helicopter rotors adds to the adrenaline rush.
There is no margin for error as the Guardsmen trainees conduct one last safety check before they rope down from the Super Puma helicopter hovering about eight storeys high.
Check out how the soldiers execute their first helicopter live descent.
As the sun sets, the soldiers look forward to a well-deserved night out of Bedok Camp, especially after the rigorous and strenuous training.
Will they get to book out or is there something else in store?
The soldiers emerge from a thick plume of smoke with a cacophony of gunfire as they aggressively attempt to take out "enemies" holed up in a series of buildings.
Amid heavy gunfire, smoke grenades and the relentless rain, things don't really go according to plan and the soldiers desperately try to find their footing to synergise their attacks.
One thing's for sure - they're determined not to repeat the same mistakes twice.
Their bodies tell them to stop but their minds are in overdrive as the Guardsmen trainees are given task after task, all to be completed within a given time limit. The Rite of Passage pushes the limits of every Guardsman trainee’s mental and physical endurance.
Will the soldiers' spirit of camaraderie and their will to overcome bring them closer to donning the coveted khaki beret?
Lasers from the SAR21 assault rifles pierce through the darkness like a scene from an ominous science fiction movie. The air is filled with the smell of gunpowder and smoke from grenades.
And amid these, the sweet smell of success, as the Guardsmen trainees take out the well-concealed "enemies", one by one, in a dilapidated building.
As the firefight comes to a close, it seems to signal the end of their mission. Or is there something more in store?
There seems to be no end in sight. For these soldiers, it's one mission, after another and they haven't slept for over 60 hours. And to add to the chaos and confusion, their tasks seem insurmountable and almost impossible to achieve.
With just hours away from the Guards Graduation Ceremony, the soldiers put mind over matter and push themselves to their limits to make the cut and earn the right to be called Guardsmen.
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Guards Conversion Course
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved December 28, 2011.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved January 5, 2012.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved January 12, 2012.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved January 19, 2012.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved January 26, 2012.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved February 2, 2012.
- ^ "Making The Cut". CyberpioneerTV. Retrieved February 9, 2012.
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Light Strike Vehicle
The LSV actually allows for different weapon configurations. It can be mounted with other weapon systems such as the 40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher (AGL) or the advanced Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM).
The soldiers can now bring heavier and better firepower systems into operations. With the help of the Light Strike Vehicle , the Guardsmen are able to move faster than ever before, and with more potent firepower.
Weapon
106 mm Recoiless Gun
Weight
1500 kg
Max Speed
110 km/hr
Configurations
-40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher
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Hi guys, I know this has been a repititious question all the time but what are the criterias to enter Commando BMT? I see alot of my non spectacled JC friends entering it instead of my average poly or ITE friends. I understand that they have to go through this Vocational Assessment to see whether they are eligible for it. So I would like to know, what are the criterias, and what should I do to be eligible for it? Any tips or advices? Thanks!
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to tell the Customer Service Officer that you want to voluntary sign up for the VA selection.
It is as simple as that.
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Originally posted by Rednano:
this reminds me of a true real-life story shared by an old forumer who was a Commando.
during the VA selection, this was something similar to what actually happened...
Interviewer: "So, are you keen to join the Commando family?"
Candidate: "Do I have a choice?"
Interviewer: "No."
Candidate: "Then what the fark is this VA interview for?"
and he really got in...
this old forumer said that that's the spirit which the Commandos are looking for...just to share a question during my time (late 80's intake to NDU)
if one of your man got injured! and if you wanna stay put and take care of him and ask for back up to withdraw him.....its will screw up ur whole mission! what will you do??
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Originally posted by boredboredbored:
Hey eTan, i dont know about Cdo, but Ndu never set foot in Tekong at all throughout their BMT and CDC phase. Nope their BMT will not be conducted in Tekong, don't worry, the accomodations are great.
Enlistees will have a more memorable PoP haha, trust me on that... you won't be getting the normal PoP because you only have your true POP after your CDC phase.. you get a memorable one after BMT too, but trust me.. the CDC one is worth the wait.
our camp r located at sembawang. why we cant conduct at Tekong its very simple.during our time, when u enlisted to NDU, most of the batch will not have their BMT first! all men will be posted to NDU and let their instructor whack a few weeks later then they attached to SNT- BMT instructor (some of them are from guards unit). they will take care of those 'Tadpoles' for around 6 weeks and return all of them to our unit again. BMT phase usually is 14-15 weeks, therefore our very owner instructor will handle them for the first 4-5 weeks and last 4-5 weeks (only in between 6 weeks are belong to 'army style' of training).
i can also share this... during army instructor, its usually MORE RELAX! you can check with any diver during late 80s and 90s..... as, those army instructor usually will treat us much better then our very own instructor. they will tell us.... YOU GUYZ BETTER TAKE CARE!
