I have decided to sign up for SAF.
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i will say the pay is better than the average person outside with the same qualification as u.Originally posted by Omniknight:What are some thing I need to know or would want to know, like the pay and working hours and what I would be doing. -
i don't think he has any ideas at all.Originally posted by syncopation_music:what kind of vocation u looking at ?
army ,navy or airforce ?
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haha... but the diff is i never signed on in the end.Originally posted by syncopation_music:steady .... i last time navy regular
gimme a 5 ~!!! 
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ya... so what.... saf the govt dont pay u for nothing u noe... u are expected to give ur performance in saf [[120% times (ur salary paid) ]]... then weekend burn, duties... on off days, u can get called back... when come back, answer a few questions... then thats all... yes... it happened to my immediate superior... stay sembawang, take bus go back camp in bedok... in camp for a few minute only... waste time and money... regulars no more bus concession u noe...Originally posted by UandMe:i will say the pay is better than the average person outside with the same qualification as u.
outside civilian pay maybe starting salary less but more freedom... more life... work-life balance...
and i doubt u r a regular... say so good... ask pple jump... then u urself stay on boat... -
then what happened... tell us... u have very 1st hand =outlook on life as a regular... briefly... i believe u have a sign of relief when u finally take back ur pink ic, leave base, and never look back...Originally posted by syncopation_music:steady .... i last time navy regular
gimme a 5 ~!!! -
similarly u're painting too rosy a picture for the civilian worker... more freedom more life? So many people are working OT paid or unpaid, trying hard to keep their ricebowl.Originally posted by eac:outside civilian pay maybe starting salary less but more freedom... more life... work-life balance...
and i doubt u r a regular... say so good... ask pple jump... then u urself stay on boat...
just find out how many regulars go home right on the dot and how many private sector workers dun dare to go home even hrs after their official working time.
I work in the private sector and i'm also on 24hrs standby, sometimes need to go back when happily shopping halfway during the weekends. And as if we do not need to perform in our work to remain relevant in our companies.
however, it's true that i have quite a few regular friends whose salary i'm not going to catch up with a few years later, even if they do not have any increment from now on. -
of cos true... private sector oso have some jobs that are not good too.
unfortunately generally speaking, the way saf functions as an organisation as an effective employer is oso doesnt draw a rosy picture too.
i now oso in private sector definitely... but perhaps compared to u, my work-life is far more balanced than when i was in saf doing "car kia" work. im least to say that im in the middle management level... -
Sign on as a SAF Regular today.Originally posted by UandMe:similarly u're painting too rosy a picture for the civilian worker... more freedom more life? So many people are working OT paid or unpaid, trying hard to keep their ricebowl.
just find out how many regulars go home right on the dot and how many private sector workers dun dare to go home even hrs after their official working time.
I work in the private sector and i'm also on 24hrs standby, sometimes need to go back when happily shopping halfway during the weekends. And as if we do not need to perform in our work to remain relevant in our companies.
however, it's true that i have quite a few regular friends whose salary i'm not going to catch up with a few years later, even if they do not have any increment from now on.
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The SAF is not all that bad a place to be in, contrary to all the mudslinging, bitching and whining from the vocal majority but I must stress that it's all down to the luck of the draw. The superiors you get and your fellow colleagues will make the difference of having good or bad times.
Given your polytechnic qualification, I would suggest that you go through your BMT first before you finalise your decision. Even if you can make it into the officer corp, I'd ask you to seriously consider your options again since it's not the rosy picture many here paint (Especially since most of them are NOT officers). Plus, as a farmer (even if you have a degree) your advancement prospects do not look good unless you're prepared to put in outstanding performances in your tours to up your "market value" with your superiors.
I cannot stress this more: Consider if you're prepared to put your life to the draw. Your chances of getting good superiors and colleagues are not good given the selfish mentality of the kids nowadays. -
roflOriginally posted by Omniknight:nah my father said it woul dbe good to sign up cos it is hard to find a job outside. i can also keep myself fit...
fitness can be attained anywhere lah, why go ns to keep fit.......
in fact i seldom see fit regulars, either thin like a stick, fat , heavy smoker etc... -
i find the threadstarter's reason for signing on kinda naive.
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dont sign on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111
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i think is rather to protect the royal family....aiyoyo....how many qns like this we get already...y not make it a sticky topic beter with title'advices on signing on'....Originally posted by thoreldan:one more person to protect the FTs
many good year ahead... -
Do u know alot regulars fail ippt too ? U think u chong sua unit ? guards or commando ar .. if so then fine lo .. Their job is super sian one .. burn wkends , public holidays .
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ya.Originally posted by borntolive:rofl
fitness can be attained anywhere lah, why go ns to keep fit.......
in fact i seldom see fit regulars, either thin like a stick, fat , heavy smoker etc...
most of them are heavy drinkers too! -
You will be working like a slave...Originally posted by Omniknight:What are some thing I need to know or would want to know, like the pay and working hours and what I would be doing.
On call 24/7 without any rest as you sold your body to the gahmen.
Pay of course higher than NSF...
Sai Kan, Sai Kan and more Sai Kan... -
To Omniknight:
"Before jumping into the pool, first dip your big toe in a little and stir. Then put you whole foot in. Stir, then decide. Serve while hot." -
lol, you're not even sure of the pay, what you're doing. and you have already decided to sign up for SAF.Originally posted by Omniknight:What are some thing I need to know or would want to know, like the pay and working hours and what I would be doing.
this isn't like 18th century matchmaking man, this is your future! -
WAHAHHAAHAH!Originally posted by crosshairs:To Omniknight:
"Before jumping into the pool, first dip your big toe in a little and stir. Then put you whole foot in. Stir, then decide. Serve while hot."
GENIUS! SHEER GENIUS! -
yeah...even prostitue earnmore...Originally posted by caleb_chiang:You will be working like a slave...
On call 24/7 without any rest as you sold your body to the gahmen.
Pay of course higher than NSF...
Sai Kan, Sai Kan and more Sai Kan... -
I'd like to bring up the story of a certain Benjamin Lou who signed on before he was selected for the 1st CDO BN. Due to my witnessing of the mentioned incidents in the case and the events that led up to investigations of ill-treatment, I have this to say to all who contemplate signing on before serving their NS:
DON'T. Don't be a screw up. Please. Think about your mother. And your girlfriend. Anyone who signs on before experiencing the environment inside has no aptitude for planned operations and has no business inside.
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eh?Originally posted by crosshairs:I'd like to bring up the story of a certain Benjamin Lou who signed on before he was selected for the 1st CDO BN. Due to my witnessing of the mentioned incidents in the case and the events that led up to investigations of ill-treatment, I have this to say to all who contemplate signing on before serving their NS: -
SOF and CDOs are supposed to be a different breed of men. they are supposed to fight harder, fiercer and go faster and further than any other units.
so, cannot compare to other combat units one. -
I find that only be pilot then worth signing on.
Seems to be the only military post that will still be able to get you a job after u quit the military. -
X2Originally posted by stellazio:I find that only be pilot then worth signing on.
Seems to be the only military post that will still be able to get you a job after u quit the military. 