finally a first for the commandos.
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Sadly, a lot of CDOs would disagree. He was my company 2I/C, and with absolutly no intent to slander the man (I'm still on speaking terms with him), I do see their point.Originally posted by Gordonator:COL Philip Lim. yup, he's a CDO.
Phillip Lim is without a doubt an intelligent and diligent man, but I'd be hard pressed to call him a leader in the true sense of the word. He endeavoured to institute an atmosphere of professionalism amongst the men (he was responsible for my company doing 25 rehearsals before exercises), but he failed to understand the social mechanism of the company - put simply, he had a talent for getting on people's nerves. As a measure of his level of engagement with them men, by the time I ROD'd there were only a handful of men in the company who would talk to him when it was not absolutely necessary.
I have heard accounts of him failing missions during one of his courses, but I'll take pains to say that these accounts are unsubstantiated. What I will say is that even in a unit that engenders high levels of individualism, he was an outsider.
To be candid, he a nice enough fellow, and sure enough he was earnest, but some days he simply wasn't very bright, and he did succumb to pressure. Case in point:
We were on a BTEC exercise against a Guards unit, 1 Guards if I recall correctly. Mind you, since we were the OPFOR, there wasn't even all that much pressure. I was within earshot of the HQ team, and Phillip and the OC were stomping about, getting their knickers in a twist because they couldn't get our recce teams on the net. I suggested that perhaps the Guards had managed to find the frequency we were using, and had kept the transmit key on, so that the simplex system was jammed. We switched freqs and got our teams back on line. Now for God's sake, I was a demo man, not a signaller, and still they couldn't figure it out before I did - it's even worse considering that Phillip has a Master's in Engineering at Manchester University if I recall correctly.
Phillip's a scholar and attended Sandhurst. He's gone for COCC and has done a rotation with the US Special Forces. That said, while I'm glad that we've finally gotten our first one-star, I can easily name quite a few other Commando officers who I would have preferred to have gotten there first. -
First CDO to be a BG? not quite....
COL Philip switched vocations back in '02 to Armd and so wears a black beret. Please find me a RED beret of BG rank please.Originally posted by sir sickolot II:
This is the first time i'm going to see a general from the Commando formation.
Seven Colonels (COL) promoted to the rank of Brigadier-General (BG) / Rear-Admiral(One Star) (RADM) are:
COL Chan Chun Sing
Commander, 9th Division/Chief Infantry Officer
COL Hoo Cher Mou
Commander, Air Defence and Operations Command
[b]COL Lim Chern Tjunn Philip
Assistant Chief of the General Staff (Operations)
COL Ng Chee Peng
Director (Policy)
COL Tan Chuan-Jin
(currently on course)
COL Tay Kian Seng
Head, Naval Operations Department
COL(Dr) Wong Chee Meng John
Chief of Medical Corps
Source: MINDEF webbie
Correct me if i'm wrong but COL Philip Lim is a CDO right? haha
Not to forget too.. CDF, COA, CAF also promoted in rank.
Cheers
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Sorry to say... No Cdo Offrs so far who can qualify for DIV level command and thus reach BG rank. Which Cdo has commanded more than a Bde and understands how a CAD DIV?
Phillip's a scholar and attended Sandhurst. He's gone for COCC and has done a rotation with the US Special Forces. That said, while I'm glad that we've finally gotten our first one-star, I can easily name quite a few other Commando officers who I would have preferred to have gotten there first.[/b] -
No need to be sorry. Let's face it, when do CDOs operate at brigade level?Originally posted by gonegoose:Sorry to say... No Cdo Offrs so far who can qualify for DIV level command and thus reach BG rank. Which Cdo has commanded more than a Bde and understands how a CAD DIV?
What I am saying is that if being the first Red Beret BG around was a measure of the man's quality as a CDO officer, there are a number of other candidates I'd think of first.
Personally, as a Red Beret, I really couldn't give a good rat's if the guy commands the other couple of other thousand men around me. What I do give a damn about is that I can count on the bloke next to me, and the pointyheads at Gombak and go pull on each other for all I care - I don't believe that have a clue what really goes on at the sharp end of the business. -
to be sure, no one need to be a GUARDS MAN in order to be a CGO, that for sure.Originally posted by Unknown_X:if im not wrong he's 38. or could be younger. forget liao. lim chuan poh was also ex 9 div comd. i think can convert vocation. current chief guards was my ex g3. infantry trained. den after that became engineer, den hd nsad. now chief guard. jus go for gcc lor. heard he damn garang, gcc is peanuts to him.
if remember correctly, there was one a ARTY officer as CGO.
just to be clear, are we not in combine arm now?
back to topic, never ever we had a star CDO, the highest a COL. rank equate to manpower and the highest rank in HQ CDO correct me again if i am wrong, that is oni a Lt COL. -
damn i always thought Sukh Singh will be a BG
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Nah, he was never enough of the establishment sort for that, and just as well too.Originally posted by Master -_-:damn i always thought Sukh Singh will be a BG -
yup i'm sorry that i've not done by background checks before posting... but i rem him as a red beret so yup hahaOriginally posted by gonegoose:First CDO to be a BG? not quite....
COL Philip switched vocations back in '02 to Armd and so wears a black beret. Please find me a RED beret of BG rank please.
As of now, yes the highest appointment CDOs have taken up are BDE Comds and Chief CDO Officer. There are also CDOs who hold MINDEF appts, but not sure which positions.
As for BG Phillip's calibre as an officer, as i don't have first hand experience in interacting with the man... i think i'll reserve my comments on officers, or scholar officers.
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CO of 2 SIB is a COL Cdo. Ex 9 div g3 also. apparently my dad's company de GM and CO 2 SIB on quite good terms.Originally posted by Gedanken:No need to be sorry. Let's face it, when do CDOs operate at brigade level? What I am saying is that if being the first Red Beret BG around was a measure of the man's quality as a CDO officer, there are a number of other candidates I'd think of first.
Personally, as a Red Beret, I really couldn't give a good rat's if the guy commands the other couple of other thousand men around me. What I do give a damn about is that I can count on the bloke next to me, and the pointyheads at Gombak and go pull on each other for all I care - I don't believe that have a clue what really goes on at the sharp end of the business. -
you seem to know quite abit about 2 SIB. FYI, a Bde Comd is called Commander, XSIB and not CO. CO is a term for Bn.Originally posted by Unknown_X:CO of 2 SIB is a COL Cdo. Ex 9 div g3 also. apparently my dad's company de GM and CO 2 SIB on quite good terms.
Some company GM and what not may be NS KAH (key appt holders) so it's not surprising they may be on good terms with COs and Bde Comds. -
Quite possibly. He's 37 and a BG. He has just about enough time before 45 to serve 2-3 year tours as COA and then CDF, once he's back from his Masters.Originally posted by LazerLordz:I foresee that BG Tan Chuan Jin may move up slightly faster than the others.. -
haha paiseh, overlooked that. i know nuts abt 2 sib, minus their commander.Originally posted by sir sickolot II:you seem to know quite abit about 2 SIB. FYI, a Bde Comd is called Commander, XSIB and not CO. CO is a term for Bn.
Some company GM and what not may be NS KAH (key appt holders) so it's not surprising they may be on good terms with COs and Bde Comds.
the gm pes c, apparently went for airborne and injured his spine. gg. non KAH also. just that i went out with them before. -
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Who are the current CGO and 7SIB commander? Should have COC already rite? -
either COL or BG Tung. can't recall his full name.Originally posted by kajagugu:Hi!
Who are the current CGO and 7SIB commander? Should have COC already rite? -
Someone once told me...
You will never see a commando attaining a general rank or in charge of army....
Cos worried, they might gang up with the other world commandos and hold a coup...
Oh well...but wad do i know..im no commando