Sign On: Worth It? Wise? Outside No Good Job Prospect? How?
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I know the title of this topic is just going to attract tons and tons of replies urging TS to think carefully, or just scream "NO NO NO!" But please don't do that, I have no interest, and just want to ask a genuine question.
Say someone served 2 years of National Service (Full-time) up to the rank of CPL and then ORDs.
After completing his studies in a university and acquiring a degree, is it then possible to go back and sign on as an officer?
Or does he need to have made it as an officer during his NSF days? -
I believe it is possible that will channel u into OCS provided ur PES is not C and below and physical track record is not too shabby (i.e. ur IPPT, etc), ur BMT/Unit life reviews by ur commanders are not that bad and the huge factor is u got a degree as a scholar (i.e. first class hons + tons of awards/etc/etc).
Truth of the matter is the last point is impt. I came across PES C/E LCP/CPL ORD as clerks, go to England to study medicine come back immediate transition to 2LT/LTA. Although I know I am biased to use MO as an example but it clearly shows how SAF do things: You got the paper, u can go far. -
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y dun study until PHD?
then next time....
"Hormat panglima.... hor-----mat!"
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u can
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no u can'tOriginally posted by Reveille:I know the title of this topic is just going to attract tons and tons of replies urging TS to think carefully, or just scream "NO NO NO!" But please don't do that, I have no interest, and just want to ask a genuine question.
Say someone served 2 years of National Service (Full-time) up to the rank of CPL and then ORDs.
After completing his studies in a university and acquiring a degree, is it then possible to go back and sign on as an officer?
Or does he need to have made it as an officer during his NSF days?
i go the saf website see. if u ord as a cpl u will sign on as a specialist. -
u can apply for a new job / vocation with the estab rank.Originally posted by jasonsamster:no u can't
i go the saf website see. if u ord as a cpl u will sign on as a specialist.
provided the age requirement is met. -
Nope, unfortunately you can't.Originally posted by Reveille:I know the title of this topic is just going to attract tons and tons of replies urging TS to think carefully, or just scream "NO NO NO!" But please don't do that, I have no interest, and just want to ask a genuine question.
Say someone served 2 years of National Service (Full-time) up to the rank of CPL and then ORDs.
After completing his studies in a university and acquiring a degree, is it then possible to go back and sign on as an officer? -
Different case dude..Originally posted by octega:I believe it is possible that will channel u into OCS provided ur PES is not C and below and physical track record is not too shabby (i.e. ur IPPT, etc), ur BMT/Unit life reviews by ur commanders are not that bad and the huge factor is u got a degree as a scholar (i.e. first class hons + tons of awards/etc/etc).
Truth of the matter is the last point is impt. I came across PES C/E LCP/CPL ORD as clerks, go to England to study medicine come back immediate transition to 2LT/LTA. Although I know I am biased to use MO as an example but it clearly shows how SAF do things: You got the paper, u can go far.
Those folks who ORDed as non-MOs who subsequently go on to become doctors, are channeled to an abbreviated MOCC course to become reservist medical officers. -
My brother signed on with the Air Force after graduating from NTU, but he was a QM during NS, so his example won't directly apply to you. (He's a now a LTC, after 15 years of service.) My comments are based more on I recall about the way he went about his application.
Sure, it's possible to sign on as an officer. But you must remember the SAF will respond like any civilian employer: i.e. shortlist a selected few for an interview (& additional medical checkup, in this case), but won't explain the reasons behind the other rejected applications.
Your collegiate majors should also mesh with your desired job. So, generally speaking, you'll have a better chance signing on as an engineering or logistics officer. Combat is more difficult, unless you have proven leadership evidence &/or testimonials from your former NS or present reservist CO supporting your application. -
Originally posted by Ristar:y dun study until PHD?
then next time....
"Hormat panglima.... hor-----mat!"
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I believe it is possible if the chap has gone thru atleast SISPEC, then cross over would be possible because I did encountered SISPEC-trained cross over officers.Originally posted by cornyfish2000:Different case dude..
Those folks who ORDed as non-MOs who subsequently go on to become doctors, are channeled to an abbreviated MOCC course to become reservist medical officers.
But then again, to be selected, the "paper" factor comes into play again.
Hiaz...this is always the puzzling factor to me why the "armed" forces uses "paper" merit to measure one person ability/worth instead of his soldiering merits. -
for this issue, my friend did some asking b4. For army, one can only sign on as a combat officer if he is a commissioned officer during his nsf days. While for logistic/engineering officers, he must be at least a 3sg during his nsf days. As for navy and air force, it is possible to sign on regardless of ur rank in nsf. So long as u have required degree, pes status, ippt. In addition, of cos all the interview and ur past record in nsf days.