Istana COG August CMI?
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Looks Like they are out of practice...
Drills totally outta timing... -
wah no one perfect la. anyway nw the mp for pdu is all xin jiao. naturally nt that gd la.... the lao jiao all ording nw.....
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out of practice? more like never practice at all..
knn you go watch all the 06 shows they were also once xin jiaos, compare that with this one omfg... they don't even have farkin exchange sequence or jumbo or rotation, DON"T HAVE AT ALL.. tmd these are kuku jiaos not xin jiao, and I blame their "overall instructor" who happens to be the first man in the video.. the one who keep looking back at his own trainees cos he forgot his own drills... what a farking retard, simple peacock sequence also screw up
KNOCK IT DOWN KNN, WHAT HAPPENED TO SPDS TRAINING? WHERE PRIDE DISCIPLINE HONOR? WHERE THE SHINY BOOTS? WHERE FIRST AND LAST 100? 1000000001 ROUNDS GO FOR THIS SHIT OF A MESS YOU ALL DID -
thats nt commandos la..... thats military police command precision drill unit....
that was the change of guards parade for the istana every sunday afternoon -
wah.. they will sign how many extra like that har...??
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even commando can fail to get best combat unit
wats new man ?
relac lah
to err is human -
gd question... they got 1.5 yrs to ord.......
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Oh dear. Malu, dah.
Drill has never been a SAF strength -- even for NDP -- but then this is supposed to be the precision-drill squad.
I bet this gets highlighted at Stomp, maybe even the Straits Times itself. -
the guy who should sign extra is the chief instructor, he the one doing the most mistakes, he doesn't even observe proper etiquette when he falters on his drills, forget drills still look around like some beheaded chicken NBPCB[/b]
eh if 1 or 2 falter, 'to err is human' applies. When the whole farking thing screws up, it means they aren't ready. And if they aren't ready but they are made to perform, that means upstairs are farked up. If they got alot of time to practice and still like that, means they ½ the time in canteen lim kopi or s.i.b-ing. Cb old traditions have been lost, the world is coming to an end.
Yes well said, blitzonic. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE PRECISION DRILL SQUAD. Is like the commandos of ALL drill squads. But now I have a feeling I will soon be recalled to perform tafaku for spds -
i think is not a matter of xin jiao or lao jiao. I tot only those up to standard can step onto Istana grounds? Dun tell me whole group performers are new?!? I tot will slowly induce new comer one? like handling over like that.
To err is human, but this is not like weapon drop or something.. but one whole group in distress...
Wondering why would they compromise the standard.. -
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I hope you bunch will wake up from your pathetic after lunch naps and right the shame you have brought upon the Silent Precision Drill Squad this day.
Sept 07, What have you? -
Haix .. as a fellow mp .. i have to reason out y the standard has been dropping. There was a significant drop in manpower in mpcomd as the transition of the 2.5yr soldiers left , leaving a huge manpower lapse as the 2yr soldiers cant seemed to be able to fill.
To so call ease the situation, higher authority have merge Active provost with Zone provost, however the strength of the drill squad were not even half during the most glorious days . And now man from both coys have to perform spds drills n enforcement duties->increased workload
In short , men were culture shocked, manpower severely stretched n morale sibei low. We were functioning at ard 60% efficiency or less i believe. Weekends burnt due to numerous practices n offs inlieu were denied(this is super degrading). MOreover during the recently COC , several demanding n harash practices were implemented.
Let me ask u guys who have gone on parades how would u feel to have parades almost every alternative days ? N on the free days mount guard duties ?Personally i feel for those ppl out there , we r stuck in a shit hole becos some ppl up there didnt speculate this smartly n the intake of new guys were balantly insignificant to cover the strength . Even ording personnel cant clear their leaves n offs properly .
Gloomy days ahead
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haha, thats true. ever since ns was cut to 2 yrs, there has been significant gaps in manning strenghts of many units.Originally posted by Saint`:Haix .. as a fellow mp .. i have to reason out y the standard has been dropping. There was a significant drop in manpower in mpcomd as the transition of the 2.5yr soldiers left , leaving a huge manpower lapse as the 2yr soldiers cant seemed to be able to fill.
To so call ease the situation, higher authority have merge Active provost with Zone provost, however the strength of the drill squad were not even half during the most glorious days . And now man from both coys have to perform spds drills n enforcement duties->increased workload
In short , men were culture shocked, manpower severely stretched n morale sibei low. We were functioning at ard 60% efficiency or less i believe. Weekends burnt due to numerous practices n offs inlieu were denied(this is super degrading). MOreover during the recently COC , several demanding n harash practices were implemented.
Let me ask u guys who have gone on parades how would u feel to have parades almost every alternative days ? N on the free days mount guard duties ?Personally i feel for those ppl out there , we r stuck in a shit hole becos some ppl up there didnt speculate this smartly n the intake of new guys were balantly insignificant to cover the strength . Even ording personnel cant clear their leaves n offs properly .
Gloomy days ahead
for those of u who can only complain by saying thats its the spds and they shld have done it well. shame on you. u know nothing about drills.
it was embarrassing, yes. but to condemn an entire unit for that is deplorable.
drills are not easy and to make it worse, most units are undermanned and drills are considered 'extra' activities. means that once u finish these extra jobs, u go back n continue ur normal jobs and duties. little or no rest.
xin jiao, lao jiao, nt much diff, yes. the lao jiao only has bout 2mths to pass on wat he has learnt to his new batch before he ord. to a lao jiao, such hectic schedule is manageable. to xin jiao, who only jus learnt the ropes and then they are thrown in to perform very fast with busy workloads and little off, its nt easy la.
think we should give them the benefit of doubt and stop criticizing.
there are 2 grps. but when nt enough ppl, jus pick off some ppl, which is sometimes the case. the handing over this yr was super short. from saf day to ord in sept, bout 2 mths, compared to previous batches handing over.Originally posted by hemoid:i think is not a matter of xin jiao or lao jiao. I tot only those up to standard can step onto Istana grounds? Dun tell me whole group performers are new?!? I tot will slowly induce new comer one? like handling over like that.
To err is human, but this is not like weapon drop or something.. but one whole group in distress...
Wondering why would they compromise the standard..
and if u never did drills before, lemme tell u. Mistakes are infectious.....
its like u see one guy wrong leg, then someone else will see n go wrong also, then slowly slowly everyone will start going wrong.
like u see in the beginning of the vid, at first only the ones facing the cam were off, then when they turn can see each other le, realise off liao, then all start to sala leady.... its infectious i tell u.... really.
u mus be never gone for many ndp rehearsals before. the air force contingent shows the best drills every year de... navy always the worst....Originally posted by blitzonic:Drill has never been a SAF strength -- even for NDP.
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eh Saint, your name is damn suspicious. If you were really from MP, you'd know that name was condemned by the entire drill and traffic company... still dare to post such audacious excuses. never mind whoever is to blame doesn't matter, results are clear, right in front of istana for all the public + tourist to see. jesus man what a shame.
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u mus be never gone for many ndp rehearsals before. the air force contingent shows the best drills every year de... navy always the worst.... (dont quote me on that)
thats true, and its a damn shameful thing. why? cuz drills are not the main focus of air force, they have their own things to do, while MPs in drill company do drills ALL THE TIME and still cannot match air force standard...
don't make excuses that drill people need to do enforcement duty, cuz no one gives a rats ass. enforcement duty is slack, if it were the old times, they'd do enforcement duty in the day and drills drills drills till midnight if they had to.[/quote] -
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the manpower issue should not be a pathetic excuse for the horrendous show put up on Istana grounds. Many Singaporeans old and young head down to the istana every 1st sunda of the month to watch this tradition and the least the spds members could do is to put up a decent show to impress the crowd and not let them come down in vain.
But I do not place the blame entirely on the performers, judging from the show, i say that they lack practice and experience and all these could be accomplished if only they were allocated enough time and given the right instructors. I blame their superiors more than anything else. The men cant do shit if their commanders are a bunch of bumbling fools who think that SPDS is of secondary importance.
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Im not from them , i m jus a outsider voicing a neutral view on the problems they face . Since u maybe some insider too prehaps u can voice ur own opinion.Originally posted by ladysm:eh Saint, your name is damn suspicious. If you were really from MP, you'd know that name was condemned by the entire drill and traffic company... still dare to post such audacious excuses. never mind whoever is to blame doesn't matter, results are clear, right in front of istana for all the public + tourist to see. jesus man what a shame.
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probably, cos i haven seen what drills those guys did , thus i have no idea on the degree of horrendous-ness u said . Well, sad but true on ur 2nd point, the commanders r really F*** up imo . To redeem their own mistakes , they simply pull ppl here n there to piece up the require 72m or whatever number is required for a contingent . It is pathetic, i have friends prior ording in 3mths going to parades whom did not go through spds at all. They r just the sacrifical lambs to the horrible restructing of mp comd. Men is severly lacking in numbers yet the workload seemed to be increasing. Spec on the other hand has not been hit as much. Imagine GD, 8m 1spec. The ratio says it all .Originally posted by melmoth:the manpower issue should not be a pathetic excuse for the horrendous show put up on Istana grounds. Many Singaporeans old and young head down to the istana every 1st sunda of the month to watch this tradition and the least the spds members could do is to put up a decent show to impress the crowd and not let them come down in vain.
But I do not place the blame entirely on the performers, judging from the show, i say that they lack practice and experience and all these could be accomplished if only they were allocated enough time and given the right instructors. I blame their superiors more than anything else. The men cant do shit if their commanders are a bunch of bumbling fools who think that SPDS is of secondary importance.
This is really shameful, their OC should be punished...
Im not seeking any pity or what here , but merely voicing a inner voice for many of the fellow mps who have n are suffering but who the hell knows? Even the new COs oso bo chap , just wan to implement this n tat not knowing how hard it hits. Like u burn wkends for combat shoots , u get off inlieus , the same applies to burning wkends for parades but they r denied. Maintaining the standard requires smart microing at commander's lvl , u give us the sweets u get the fruits of labour.With morale at all time low we just want to fark off fast from mpcomd lol -
To Saint:
I was one of those who got stuck between 2.5 years to 2 years transition but we did well, watch everything since may 06 to may 07 COGs, and that was because we had GOOD chief instructor and no doubt his drills are 100001 times better than the current one... he's a joke, look at him, which instructor can't even remember a simple drill sequence? If he's that bad, he shouldn't be qualified to teach. And I wasn't even dissing the xin jiaos, they can prove themselves in the coming COGs, but this instructor is crap srsly, regular somemore, he ought to do his job with more pride
And yes you're totally right, upstairs always only want to look good, no manpower still wanna gek out people, end up the drills like crap then they punish them.. it's time justice be done. Those people don't deserve their bars and crabs
To Venny:
Are you even an MP? Shame on those who think only of SPDS? Wake up your idea, everyone else does foot drills, the only difference between us and other units is the fact that we do SPDS, and if we can't do this good, is like saying the commandos can't paradrop properly.
Like I said, this COG doesn't even include exchange sequence, wave sequence, jumbo and rotations. These are key sequences which involve a higher level of skills and technique, and if they aren't present in the performance, there shouldn't even be any screw ups.Mistakes are infectious
lol@you, only nubs get affected by their friend's mistakes. Drill squad is supposed to be elite, not nubs.
You done drills but let me ask you, have you ever done silent precision drills? No? if you senang diri sediya also can wrong leg, then maybe you should stop posting here.[/b] -
ok i just seen the youtube vids .. that sux .. but i see no seniors inside .. thats another thing .. i think right now they r being tekan to train until jialiat
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Originally posted by spdsboiboi86:
hi there .. i cant wait to ord in nov07.. kena too many shit .. current merged mpeu sux .. co sux .. for show nia .. ccbk .. i m from station .. i gonna kena drills n other lj training .. i mean wtf ? he wans every1 to be train so can work anything under a umbrella . COck sia .. thigns meant to be specialised r to be specialised.
To Saint:
I was one of those who got stuck between 2.5 years to 2 years transition but we did well, watch everything since may 06 to may 07 COGs, and that was because we had [b]GOOD chief instructor and no doubt his drills are 100001 times better than the current one... he's a joke, look at him, which instructor can't even remember a simple drill sequence? If he's that bad, he shouldn't be qualified to teach. And I wasn't even dissing the xin jiaos, they can prove themselves in the coming COGs, but this instructor is crap srsly, regular somemore, he ought to do his job with more pride
And yes you're totally right, upstairs always only want to look good, no manpower still wanna gek out people, end up the drills like crap then they punish them.. it's time justice be done. Those people don't deserve their bars and crabs
To Venny:
Are you even an MP? Shame on those who think only of SPDS? Wake up your idea, everyone else does foot drills, the only difference between us and other units is the fact that we do SPDS, and if we can't do this good, is like saying the commandos can't paradrop properly.
Like I said, this COG doesn't even include exchange sequence, wave sequence, jumbo and rotations. These are key sequences which involve a higher level of skills and technique, and if they aren't present in the performance, there shouldn't even be any screw ups.
lol@you, only nubs get affected by their friend's mistakes. Drill squad is supposed to be elite, not nubs.
You done drills but let me ask you, have you ever done silent precision drills? No? if you senang diri sediya also can wrong leg, then maybe you should stop posting here.[/b][/b] -
in the past SAFPU has shown flexibility and postphoned the Istana COG when there were manpower/standard issues.Perhaps that should be done until something is done about the present situation(whole show looking like a bunch of clowns in white helmets-the only thing missing is after screwing up the whole show they actually burst out laughing cuz that's what it looked like what was about to happen..that'll make my day man)
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Originally posted by spdsboiboi86:
n u r frm mp? u obviously hav never seen the best drills frm mp be4. all u hav seen is jus that one vid. i've done lots of major parades, seen many instructors and gd drills. if u wanna condemn the whole unit cos of one bad performance, then u r really naive.
To Venny:
Are you even an MP? Shame on those who think only of SPDS? Wake up your idea, everyone else does foot drills, the only difference between us and other units is the fact that we do SPDS, and if we can't do this good, is like saying the commandos can't paradrop properly.
Like I said, this COG doesn't even include [b]exchange sequence, wave sequence, jumbo and rotations. These are key sequences which involve a higher level of skills and technique, and if they aren't present in the performance, there shouldn't even be any screw ups.
lol@you, only nubs get affected by their friend's mistakes. Drill squad is supposed to be elite, not nubs.
You done drills but let me ask you, have you ever done silent precision drills? No? if you senang diri sediya also can wrong leg, then maybe you should stop posting here.[/b][/b]
even commandos dont always paradrop properly incase u didnt know. there are always cases of commandos who drop off target. anyway, every jump is not always done by commandos only. ppl frm many units take part in the jumps. 1 screwed jump doesnt mean the whole batch is bad. u r stereotyping everyone when u know very little about drills.
do you even know wats the req to get that drill badge? u make urself sound like u hav done lots of drills and were forever gd, never affected by frens mistakes, never had a wrong leg, did high level drills wo mistakes. basically u sound like someone who is the cream de la cream of drills... so, post some of ur achievements here then.
if u think u r gd enough to criticize others, go ahead. if not, dont scream for attention here
somemore u know very little about the unit still can post the mp pledge here.
dun anyhow post ppl pledge if u dunno wat it means