CDF's Medals
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thank you vIn.Warrior for your informative lesson on aguilettes and the pics too. learnt something today.
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i think it's something like runner? their right-hand man or aides.Originally posted by venny:wats MA/SO?
anyway to ur hairy thing for the SAF band epaulette, they're called fringes. Traditionally, all epaulettes have fringes. The more fringes u have, the higher ranking u are.
From what i know, SAF band is somewhat orientated to the traditional British band customs. I read that the present Drum Major Staff and shoulder belt also originate from past British Army. So i guess tt's why the epaulettes with fringes remain in SAF band.
Obviously we cannot remain the fringes for the our soldiers. or else so hairy can trap alot spiders during out field. haha
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Originally posted by vIn.Warrior:
Erm, ok. If you want to be anal and technical about it, then sure, let's only classify those worn by officers under aiguillettes. Lol.
wrong. they're director of music tt's why it's called aiguillettes. look below..
The following officers are entitled to wear the aiguillette:
1. Chief of Defense Force (CDF) , whilst in No 1, 2 and 5 dress
2. Aide-De-Camp (ADC) to the President
3. Honourary ADC to the President
4. Military Attache (MA) and Assistant MA
5[b]. Director of Music during band performance
6. MA/SO to CDF & Service Chiefs
but i'm not sure why is i on the left. mayb it used to be on the left for director of music? anyone knows?[/b] -
haha well. i'm a regimental person and i think we shld stick to what the word refers to only, or else wad's the point of the aiguillette being so highly prestigious.Originally posted by Reveille:Erm, ok. If you want to be anal and technical about it, then sure, let's only classify those worn by officers under aiguillettes. Lol.
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Oh, anyway, its a Drum Major's mace, and Drum Major's sash. I guess your terms aren't exactly wrong, but these are the terms proper.
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agrees.Originally posted by Reveille:Oh, anyway, its a Drum Major's mace, and Drum Major's sash. I guess your terms aren't exactly wrong, but these are the terms proper.
but my previous post is to point out tt SAF Band still uses tradional British customs. Hence i used the older term of Sash (belt) and Mace (staff).
anyway seems tt u're quite well-knowledged!
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Except for the Directors of Music, I think the rest of the band wears a lanyard. Its like those old days when the policemen wore shorts, they have a whistle in the front top pocket tied to a lanyard on the shoulders. This is to prevent 1206 of the whistle. Those days, the whistle must be damned expensive.
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I really wouldn't call what they wear lanyards. Lanyards are functional items, while those worn by bandsmen are ornamental dress items. I'd say them to be closer to aiguillettes than lanyards.Originally posted by KoolKool:Except for the Directors of Music, I think the rest of the band wears a lanyard. Its like those old days when the policemen wore shorts, they have a whistle in the front top pocket tied to a lanyard on the shoulders. This is to prevent 1206 of the whistle. Those days, the whistle must be damned expensive. -
cords will sound fine. isnt it?Originally posted by Reveille:I really wouldn't call what they wear lanyards. Lanyards are functional items, while those worn by bandsmen are ornamental dress items. I'd say them to be closer to aiguillettes than lanyards. -
I've dug around the net and found the term "dress cord". That said though, some places, they are called aiguillettes as well.Originally posted by vIn.Warrior:cords will sound fine. isnt it? -
thanks for the effort!Originally posted by Reveille:I've dug around the net and found the term "dress cord". That said though, some places, they are called aiguillettes as well.
okay. mayb in other countries they're called aiguilettes but normal bandsmen dont wear one in S'pore. it's called "dress cord" -
Ah its all so unnecessarily complicated. Thats the problem with regimentation. Giving variations of what is essentially the same things several different names seemingly by whim and fancy.
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CDF's no1 mus be damn heavy.....
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With so many medals and badges to be worn on the uniform, there's enough reasons for Generals to be fat.Originally posted by venny:CDF's no1 mus be damn heavy..... -
Originally posted by KoolKool:With so many medals and badges to be worn on the uniform, there's enough reasons for Generals to be fat.
u refering to the previous COD in his bloated look? -
haha...... mus the the new army look.....Originally posted by vIn.Warrior:
u refering to the previous COD in his bloated look? -
Go Hotel must inspect guard of honour one ah?Originally posted by vIn.Warrior:
u refering to the previous COD in his bloated look? -
haha. dont think it's Hotel staffs lah. i think it's the India's GOH.Originally posted by Ponders:Go Hotel must inspect guard of honour one ah?
Picture is Maj-Gen Ng at New Delhi, India, some time ago.
He discussed cooperation in training, joint exercise and other matters of mutual interest with India. -
wow MG Ng, thats super long ago leady. when he was COA rite?
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New Delhi, April 21Originally posted by venny:wow MG Ng, thats super long ago leady. when he was COA rite?
Maj-Gen Ng Yat Chung, Chief of Defence Forces, Singapore, arrived in New Delhi yesterday. Leading a four-member delegation, Maj-Gen Chung today held talks with the Chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee and other senior defence officials. The two sides discussed cooperation in training, joint exercise and other matters of mutual interest.
On his arrival at South Block, he was received by Admiral Madhevendra Singh, Chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee and Chief of Naval Staff. He was presented a ceremonial inter-service guard of honour. He also called on the Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal S. Krishnaswamy, and the Vice-Chief of Army Staff, Lieut-Gen Shantonu Chowdhury.
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Originally posted by vIn.Warrior:
i have this book too. but not allowed to post on webby. better be careful. its mentioned somewhere in the book.
[b]Aiguillette
The aiguillette is an “insignia used to distinguish officers holding certain appointments”. They are worn with all uniforms except the No.4 dress.
The following officers are entitled to wear the aiguillette:
1. Chief of Defense Force (CDF) , whilst in No 1, 2 and 5 dress
2. Aide-De-Camp (ADC) to the President
3. Honourary ADC to the President
4. Military Attache (MA) and Assistant MA
5. Director of Music during band performance
6. MA/SO to CDF & Service Chiefs
Gorget
Gorget patches are worn with the Number 1 dress uniform for Army officers above the rank of COL. They are fastened at the collar with the base at the forward edge of the collar and the pointed edge inwards. It can be described
as a “coloured collar patch (usually red) with a button and either gold lace oak leaf motif or silk cord.”
In the SAF, gorget patches come in the following designs:
1. For COLs: A red patch with one gold braid lacing down the centre and a small gold button at the point.
2. For BGs: A red patch with two gold braids lacing down the centre and a small gold button at the point.
3. MGs and Above: A red patch with gold oak leaf embroidery down the centre and a gold button at the point.
Extracted from "Our Army Customs Traditions"
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MA = military advisor. ex 9 div comd bg winston toh was MA to CDF. but forget which year.Originally posted by venny:wats MA/SO?
SO = staff officer. like a right hand man. current COA de SO is cpt or maybe maj liao. cdo offr iirc. -
that paragraph can be found on wiki too....Originally posted by Unknown_X:i have this book too. but not allowed to post on webby. better be careful. its mentioned somewhere in the book.
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izit? den heck liao. since not i publish. other ppl get caught none of my business. thanks for telling.Originally posted by venny:that paragraph can be found on wiki too.... -
i tot MA meant Military Attache?Originally posted by Unknown_X:MA = military advisor. ex 9 div comd bg winston toh was MA to CDF. but forget which year.
SO = staff officer. like a right hand man. current COA de SO is cpt or maybe maj liao. cdo offr iirc.
as in those officers who get posted overseas to provide military advise to the Singapore emabassy in that foreign country?