regarding combat vocations
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i've heard of combat engineer, combat medic
so is there such thing as combat clerk/combat storeman all this?
sorry ah i v kancheong liao gg in abt 1 mth time -
In times of war, or even normal exercises... ALL WILL HAVE TO CARRY RIFLES!
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c1l3 leh?
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that pes excuse wad?
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I thought C1L3 either excused upper limbs or lower limbs?
But no ippt right? -
In times of war people excuse carrying rifles would start to beg for one.
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haha... No such thing as combat cleak or storeman... They are consider no combat vocation...
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sorry i see wrongly it's C1L2Originally posted by Patrik:I thought C1L3 either excused upper limbs or lower limbs?
But no ippt right? -
wrong, c1 still have ippt. only excuse up to 2 static stations.
e.g. wrist fracture then excuse chin up.
c2 and below excuse whole ippt.
in real time,
storeman and clerk, as long as pes is certified fit, u follow battalion out in the field. storeman need to deliver rations and supply with the driver to the soldiers. clerk out in the field but at field base to sort out admin work. -
Not forgetting, sbo helmet and rifle..Originally posted by eac:wrong, c1 still have ippt. only excuse up to 2 static stations.
e.g. wrist fracture then excuse chin up.
c2 and below excuse whole ippt.
in real time,
storeman and clerk, as long as pes is certified fit, u follow battalion out in the field. storeman need to deliver rations and supply with the driver to the soldiers. clerk out in the field but at field base to sort out admin work.
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i've heard of combat engineer, combat medic so is there such thing as combat clerk/combat storeman all this?
Informally, more like "operational" storeman or clerk, lah. Ditto drivers, too.
Combat engineers & medic are what they're described -- "frontline" soldiers -- which the service support counterparts can't claim too even when they're with with the same combat-arms units.[/quote] -
I beg to differ...Originally posted by soulwinner:haha... No such thing as combat cleak or storeman... They are consider no combat vocation...
my camp has combat clerk... -
wad do combat clerks do? bring laptop with sbo and do adminwork in forest?Originally posted by k2406:I beg to differ...
my camp has combat clerk... -
must stay in, must do 24hr regimental duty that might tio weekend or public holidays, must do underslung (for my camp), must do technical handling and pass live firing (so they can arrow you for guard duty), if suay kena arrow then must go outfield set up command post when your unit got exercise...Originally posted by DjMatrix:wad do combat clerks do? bring laptop with sbo and do adminwork in forest?
and endure alot of other saikang that the clerks at cmpb, mindef don't even know existed... -
yes yes... clerks who can wear num4 normally can set up command post....and do sentry duty!!
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I think it depends on the PES status also...Originally posted by mhcampboy:yes yes... clerks who can wear num4 normally can set up command post....and do sentry duty!!
L1 and L2 clerks will get arrowed. L3 and L9 I not sure. -
of cos of cos... excuse outfield one can do orderly clerk in camp...Originally posted by k2406:I think it depends on the PES status also...
L1 and L2 clerks will get arrowed. L3 and L9 I not sure. -
compared to oufield orderly clerk in camp is heaven lor. once you finish doing your reports and testing phone lines etc. can use i-net, play psp etc.Originally posted by mhcampboy:of cos of cos... excuse outfield one can do orderly clerk in camp... -
I have a friend who was a combat clerk in the Guards (long time back). He told me he had to carry a typewriter during deployment and chong sua with it :-)
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wad do combat clerks do? bring laptop with sbo and do adminwork in forest?
Operationally, they're be under the S1 cell, lah. You'll see their roles clearer upon entering reservist. But, as long as we're a peacetime army, they & the CQ/RQ people are more important in organizing every ICT, & are often designated as KAHs as a result. In wartime, they're supposed to help in POW management, for starters. So good luck, with apparently no training ~lol~
Back to the main topic: I should point out the combat engineers & combat medics, etc. are trained, firstly, as riflemen. That's why they do their BMT in Tekong or via mono-intake. In the old days, Tekong was ITD, i.e. Infantry Training Depot & those sent there knew they're arrowed for the "combat" side -- as either junior commanders (OCS or SAFINCO) or in combat-support. Ditto the mono-intakers (the famous Hokkien peng). Those sent to SBMT in Nee Soon knew they're arrowed for the "service" side, which wasn't entirely true cuz some of them would kena combat-support too. But unlike, say, the fitter drivers, clerks & most storemen weren't trained as riflemen. So no way were they "combat", although they might be posted on to operational units.
At the unit itself, there's also a distinction that support & service troops posted to the company line will join the Hokkien peng in following the same training programmes. So the medics & storemen, etc. there can often claim to be "more warrior" than their HQ counterparts, who are operationally & regimentally more rear-echelon.