What are the creteria to get a sword?
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i lend u mine ok?
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Okay...sorry for flaming and sounding fierce...bad mood yesterday lar.
Sorry arh... *Bow* *shake hand* *give u money (monopoly*
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WOrk hard in BMT and u go OCS and get a sword ! -
Master Sgt's ranks are lower than officers, so how come officers must listen to them as SSM?
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that's when mutual respect comes in... a warrant officer or spec, even if hold SSM appointment still must respect a commissioned officer, simply because they are commissioned.
Yet on the other hand, although the SSM gives face to commissioned officers, SSM's appointment gives him the power to exercise discipline. If junior officers give disciplinary problem, SSM can't charge him, but he can make a "recommendation" to senior officers who will see to it that the junior officer get something.
On the other hand, because SSM old bird, he can make life difficult on a daily basis for junior officers, simply because of his appointment, yet he also can get charged by these young 2LT if he show disrespect to the commissioned ranks. So its a two-way thing. -
To be a WO, you must sign on as spec first right? Then slowly promote to WO?
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you might not end up being a warrant even if you signed on, given the screwed up PP1/2 system.Originally posted by strado:To be a WO, you must sign on as spec first right? Then slowly promote to WO?
in any case yea with regards to my previous reply sometime back, i kinda left out than than Officers, Warrant Officers on parade as Parade RSM also carry swords. But they don't unsheath it...
But for NSFs.. you want a ceremonial sword, earn it in OCS.
You wanna a bayonet, earn it in the spec courses.
You want a stilleto, i'm not sure if you pass out as a CDO will you get one, but at least you will get to feel one! haha -
WO can be NSmen, but of course not NSF, there's not enough time to promote.
Most NS units' CSM, RSM, BSM, etc. are all NSmen who were never regular in their life., but it takes at least 7 - 10 years of NSman service to promote to WO.
Really respect them, most of them volunteered to go for all the courses, and to go back ICT earlier and beyond their normal duty to serve the rest and make sure everyone is ok, same as NSmen RQMS who're also WO.
Just 1-2 yrs ago, all CSM were regular SSG and above, nowaday notice that now got NSF CSM also, but hold 2SG rank? They will be those who will go thru all the courses and slowly promote in NSman lifetime. -
why wan sword when u got m16/sar21 to kill ur enemy?
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perform well
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you still have to buy itOriginally posted by vIn.Warrior:earn it in OCS, u mean. -
comic connection are you sure? i know suntec got sell.Originally posted by BenBenDeZhu:comics connection got a lot of swords, you can try there
got one bleach sword v nice. SUPER LONG LA
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no u dun have to.............Originally posted by Ferguson:you still have to buy it
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Originally posted by Ferguson:you still have to buy it
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What is Stilleto and what does CDO means?Originally posted by blitzonic:Oh, you mean that kind of sword.
I was thinking of the Stilleto, which I suppose is more of a dagger/knife (& awarded to CDOs, not GDSmen -- mea culpa). Of course, every servicemen owns a jackknife too, to argue it that way ....
Will your name be craved on to the Bayonet upon graduation of SISPEC like those Ceremonial Sword craved with Officer's Rank and Name on the Sword too?Originally posted by sir sickolot II:you might not end up being a warrant even if you signed on, given the screwed up PP1/2 system.
in any case yea with regards to my previous reply sometime back, i kinda left out than than Officers, Warrant Officers on parade as Parade RSM also carry swords. But they don't unsheath it...
But for NSFs.. you want a ceremonial sword, earn it in OCS.
You wanna a bayonet, earn it in the spec courses.
You want a stilleto, i'm not sure if you pass out as a CDO will you get one, but at least you will get to feel one! haha -
RSM = Regimental Sergeant Major. Now they trying to change image of being like a discipline master who enforce regimentation, so RSMs are renamed as "School Sergeant Major", Brigade Sergeant Major, etc. Basically the discipline master or what the 3G army calls the "WOSE's mentor" and example.Originally posted by specialOps:WO can be NSmen, but of course not NSF, there's not enough time to promote.
Most NS units' CSM, RSM, BSM, etc. are all NSmen who were never regular in their life., but it takes at least 7 - 10 years of NSman service to promote to WO.
Really respect them, most of them volunteered to go for all the courses, and to go back ICT earlier and beyond their normal duty to serve the rest and make sure everyone is ok, same as NSmen RQMS who're also WO.
Just 1-2 yrs ago, all CSM were regular SSG and above, nowaday notice that now got NSF CSM also, but hold 2SG rank? They will be those who will go thru all the courses and slowly promote in NSman lifetime.
So CSM = Company Sergeant Major
RSM = Regimental Sergeant Major
BSM = Brigade Sergeant Major
SSM = School Sergeant Major
What's the difference between these CSM, RSM, BSM, SSM and what do they do actually? Are allll of them are given the ceremonial sword? -
No, they are not given the ceremonial swords; and 'given' means to be made as his personal belonging.Originally posted by the_fallen:RSM = Regimental Sergeant Major. Now they trying to change image of being like a discipline master who enforce regimentation, so RSMs are renamed as "School Sergeant Major", Brigade Sergeant Major, etc. Basically the discipline master or what the 3G army calls the "WOSE's mentor" and example.
So CSM = Company Sergeant Major
RSM = Regimental Sergeant Major
BSM = Brigade Sergeant Major
SSM = School Sergeant Major
What's the difference between these CSM, RSM, BSM, SSM and what do they do actually? Are allll of them are given the ceremonial sword?
Only all commissioned officers are given the swords.
"The exception to the rule applies to the Parade RSM. Going by his title “King of the Parade Square”, the Parade RSM is authorised to wear the sword as a mark of his authority in controlling the parade. Wearing the sword also emphasises his specialised skills in drilling the men and the sword being a symbol of authority, will accord him the respect he deserves from Officers and all Ranks on parade.
Next, the only time a Parade RSM is given the privilege to draw his sword is when he pays the highest form of compliment to the Colours prior to it being trooped. In this instance, his Pace Stick is taken out of the parade ground by an orderly."
Hope this post will clear all doubts and questions on the SAF ceremonial sword.
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CDO are commandos .... stilleto is a short dagger... if u dunno how it look like, go see the unit emblem.....Originally posted by sir sickolot II:you might not end up being a warrant even if you signed on, given the screwed up PP1/2 system.
in any case yea with regards to my previous reply sometime back, i kinda left out than than Officers, Warrant Officers on parade as Parade RSM also carry swords. But they don't unsheath it...
But for NSFs.. you want a ceremonial sword, earn it in OCS.
You wanna a bayonet, earn it in the spec courses.
You want a stilleto, i'm not sure if you pass out as a CDO will you get one, but at least you will get to feel one! haha -
hmmm.... for officers maybe... there's carving of the name.... btw it's carving, not cravingOriginally posted by the_fallen:Will your name be craved on to the Bayonet upon graduation of SISPEC like those Ceremonial Sword craved with Officer's Rank and Name on the Sword too? -
Its engraved, not carved.Originally posted by charleslee:hmmm.... for officers maybe... there's carving of the name.... btw it's carving, not craving
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they won't engrave your name on the bayonet if you're an award recipient, mainly cause it's too short, and thus won't look nice. And unlike the OCS Sword where you buy it, a bayonet is given to you as an award, so since it's 'free' they won't bother engraving for you.
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ooo sorrie english CMIOriginally posted by Obersturmfuhrer:Its engraved, not carved. 
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haha...got this word carved also....but must use stone and tools and use hand to carve....hahaha....
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u have to pay for your own sword upon commissionOriginally posted by vIn.Warrior: -
no need to pay la....Originally posted by Ferguson:u have to pay for your own sword upon commission -
The sword is given to commissioned officers. Don't have to pay for it.
It used to be engraved, but now it's just got some real poor quality printing of your name. This fades off after a while.
FYI The ceremonial sword also used to be made of silver. At least my father's sword was, cos when it rusted it turned green from oxidisation. It's heavier and better made all round. Those were the kind of swords you can be proud of.
My sword is merely plated and the plating is flaking off after 7 years. The quality of the blade has decreased over the years and it can't even cut a cake properly. The gold plating on the hilt is starting to go too even though it's been kept in a cupboard since commissioning. The newer ones are good for roasting big marshmallows though. SAF trying to stinge nowadays i guess. Don't play with your sword in front of SAF personnel until you ORD though. Once you get your pink IC back, you can do whatever you want.