Luckily I served NS
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including SOC...?
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use Bubble Shield la..
anyway the fall out rate of the route march will increase.. -
NSman is not getting good either i foresee...think better plan to migrate fast or sign on navy air force lor...
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if headshot how?
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then they say:Originally posted by Dead_Man_Inc:if headshot how?
Helmet must pull low low to just above eyes! -
den like this loOriginally posted by Dead_Man_Inc:if headshot how?
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Long time no see Ged!Originally posted by Gedanken:Makes good sense. I can see the sense of armour for urban, but it would be more of a hinderance than a help in the jungle.
I can imagine doing the leopard crawl in the jungle with all the amour on.. (Forgot if it was CDO officer course or specialist, think they renamed it Leadership course now)
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just design an ironman suit for them.
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hoho...where u get this pic from and where is it taken?Originally posted by speakupforyourrights:den like this lo
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SAF Commando + Class IV Body Armour + Full Battle Order + SAR21 fitted with Grenade Launcher + Infra-red goggles = MASTER CHIEF
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o.o
pardon me
y bigger MM bullet, the vest lighter
but
smaller MM bullet, the vest heavier
cause of the spd it hits the person cause of its weight?
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No lar...Originally posted by yiha093:o.o
pardon me
y bigger MM bullet, the vest lighter
but
smaller MM bullet, the vest heavier
cause of the spd it hits the person cause of its weight?
Must see what kind of bullets too mah... 9mm para rounds diameter larger, but has lower velocity, so Class I or II armour is enough (lighter).
5.56mm, 5.45mm, 5.7mm, 7.62mm, etc rounds diameter smaller, but has much higher velocity, so need armour with ceramics, resin, titanium, etc support, so heavier lor.
As for 12.7mm, try not to TANK those rounds lor, pain leh...
AP must siam liao.
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Someone's promotionOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Hmm...
Why now.. -
carry liao cant even walk long sia ... atec cfm fall out
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Don't think it's so simple leh..Originally posted by deathscythe99:Someone's promotion
And you've been "Awol" from here for a long time. -
I doubt it will be issued as a kit item like the helmet. as SPF and SIR has stated that BA is a controlled / restricted item. Guess it will be issued together with weapon and ammo when in camp durin callups.
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Also, we might be increasingly be called upon for higher intensity missions in the future, that's what I feel.
Agree. One differentiation of the SAF is that we've always trained as a conventional force, unlike other regional armies who were -- or still are -- a counterinsurgency one. Not only that, our whole orientation is centered around acquired jungle warfare & CQB (FIBUA, FOFO) skills. In my time, I'd also wondered whether it's all that practical to apply in those DIV-level wargaming strategies, as repeatedly taught to & devised by consecutive staff officers, in the real-life hot & humid SE Asian setting.
But the whole region has urbanized a lot since then, & the SAF is also going high-tech in a big way. In this sense, it looks like the body armor investment is meant for long-term urban-warfare ops -- readying for Iraq-style battles -- along with the HMD googles, surveillance balls, robots, unmanned systems, et al. as well as the planned new training village at LCK. What they're experimenting at 3 SIR now will likely be incorporated to the rest of the SAF.SAF is toying with the idea of transforming some SIR into mechanised Inf, so the weight issue is not that significant. But for those general purpose infantry, with no luxury of mechanise support, the weight is going to kill them.........
Body armor equates mechanized infantry? ~lol~ Hey, even the medieval knights & Spartan hoplites wore them in the old days. Common basic protection for foot soldiers, lah.Western are bigger size. The extra weight is just a much smaller percentage of their body weight compared to us.
Let's see which model the SAF eventually buys. From what I read, the modern flak vest itself continues to weigh roughly the same as the Korean/Vietnam versions: 3.6-3.9 kg. It's the insertable armor plates which wear heaviest. Maybe the SAF can indirectly lighten the load by ordering the manufacture of smaller plates to better fit Asian sizes.
With the Americans, I note they managed to cut down their overall body armor "system" down by some 35% with their latest design (from the PASGT's 11.4kg to the Interceptor's 7.4 kg). -
one thing my fren who went to alaska told me was..
An american soldier told him that they try to walk as little as possible...
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Fitness not really exercised there...as their logic was...when ppl start firing at u...u will somehow run extremely fast...die or run -
Haha...this part...i agree.As a kid, I've never been a good runner. I will always remember when i was 5/6 and was chased by this really big dog when I was going home one day. Boy, I've never run so fast in my entire life man.HahahaOriginally posted by Rockhound:Fitness not really exercised there...as their logic was...when ppl start firing at u...u will somehow run extremely fast...die or run -
Is this only for the SAF?
Singapore always like to folo other countries butt.
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the dragon skin looks cool
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Soft armour eh? Any ideas of current BA that possessed this characteristic? Dragonskin?
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If the Army wants to make this new body armour program effective, they have got to phase out the LBV and allow soldiers to fit pouches directly onto MOLLE straps on the body armour itself.
Prior to my unit deploying for, we had to do a range with body armour and LBV worn over the body armour. The poor fit made movement really awkward. We were like "turtles". -
As if my medic load wasn't already heavy enough. Oh well, ORD-oh.
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here's the pic
