The tale of the distrustful sergeant
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My brother was serving in 35sce when there was one time the sergeant went into their bunk and told them " The CSM is going to spotcheck ur bunk tmr so if u guys haf any cam hp, mp3 and any contraband pls surrender to me now so i can keep for u all" The sergeant got car mah. So the guys gave him their stuff and put them in a bag.
The next day, the CSM came to check bunk as usual. Guess what the sergeant told the CSM " Sir, i caught them and he handled the CSM the bag"
After that, my brother told the CSM that he needed to listen mp3 on the journey to the camp as its long. And what a miracle, he returned him.
From this incident onwards, my brother do not ever trust the sergeant again. -
nowadays.. its rare to find junior commanders tat can gain respect of their men...
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At the expense of their comrades to gain trust of superior 
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if i was that sgt, i would help them and gain the trust of his men.
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erm.. is 35sce and 30sce the same? and the sergeant is not being honest ..
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those men were recruits or privates?
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no.Originally posted by xcSz3firaSx:erm.. is 35sce and 30sce the same? and the sergeant is not being honest ..
35SCE do water-based bridging.
30SCE do land-based bridging.
both under engineer formation lar.
and the 3SG is in so deep shit...bridging is a group effort.
now still catch handphones and things like that?
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Have, Occasionally. If not how to make sure that people will not bringOriginally posted by Xcert:no.
35SCE do water-based bridging.
30SCE do land-based bridging.
both under engineer formation lar.
and the 3SG is in so deep shit...bridging is a group effort.
now still catch handphones and things like that? -
erm private/lcp i dun rmbr.
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still got how long to ORD?...if still long way...then good luck to the 3SG.Originally posted by AhJun:erm private/lcp i dun rmbr.
anyway...most of the time(if not repeat cases)..the confiscated things will be returned when booking out...if not there will be the question of where the things go...handphones and mp3 players are not that cheap...so if someone complains... -
hee,hee....last time only training phase have...after turning operational...they also cant be bothered unless we make it too obvious...Originally posted by kenn3th:Have, Occasionally. If not how to make sure that people will not bring
another way to look at it is how 'on' the CSM is. -
If recruit, then ok.
If not BMT, then that's one hell of an ass -
I always firmly believed in one of the core values "Care for soldiers".
It this sergeant behaved like this, I wonder how his men will treat him when
conflict arised? -
f the bodo sergeant.
now his men aint gonna trust his words anymore. -
you must think long term...
3SG catch you all so that CSM thinks he has a good 3SG that he can rest assured the man don't bring contraband since the 3SG is vigilant.
Actually. 3SG will close one eye after this one. -
fark up.
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I doubt the 3SG had this in mind when he betrayed his men. If a commender cannot even commend the trust of his men, he is screwed up.Originally posted by Ponders:you must think long term...
3SG catch you all so that CSM thinks he has a good 3SG that he can rest assured the man don't bring contraband since the 3SG is vigilant.
Actually. 3SG will close one eye after this one.
In fact, it is common that lot of sergeants, especially those sign on one, 'torture' or 'de kan' their men for the sake of 'de kan'. Imagine what will happen when a real war break out. The sergeant will most likely kill by his own men than the adversity. -
Well, if you all understand the rationale of the rules, then the problem will be solved.
Why flout the rules in the first place? -
Originally posted by AhJun:
Is it that hard to go buy a hp without cam in the first place?
My brother was serving in 35sce when there was one time the sergeant went into their bunk and told them " The CSM is going to spotcheck ur bunk tmr so if u guys haf any cam hp, mp3 and any contraband pls surrender to me now so i can keep for u all" The sergeant got car mah. So the guys gave him their stuff and put them in a bag.
The next day, the CSM came to check bunk as usual. Guess what the sergeant told the CSM " Sir, i caught them and he handled the CSM the bag"
After that, my brother told the CSM that he needed to listen mp3 on the journey to the camp as its long. And what a miracle, he returned him.
From this incident onwards, my brother do not ever trust the sergeant again. -
That's true. No matter what, if you flout the rules, then you deserve the punishment.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Well, if you all understand the rationale of the rules, then the problem will be solved.
Why flout the rules in the first place?
But still, the 3SG would lose all credibility. Unless he's here to explain his side of the story... -
this is not about rules. it's about trust.
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it's hard to be a good guy and a bad guy. if csm check then cannot find contrband it would be very obv that someone is helping them. and that someone must be their informer.
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Perhaps he should have safe-kept the items?Originally posted by Gordonator:this is not about rules. it's about trust.
What would you have done? The situation in this case does not look good for either the men or the spec.