Basic Weapon Safety
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Mod's Note : Weapon safety is an important issue in every Army, and the SAF is no exception.
More importantly, BMT is the first place that many recruits come into contact with live weapons, at the age of 18-20 generally.
Please feel free to share your tips on weapon safety.
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I've been noticing a lot of chatter related to M16 parts.
Here's what I'd like to advise you guys. Whatever parts you may get at Beach Road, is not range-certified nor may it stand up to safe usage in your exercises.
If you lose your pins, go to the armskote specialist and work something out with them. Normally they are quite understanding. It is BMT, and your instructors will understand if these things happen, of course they will yell and curse and throw you extras.
But do understand, a rifle is a lethal weapon, and a rifle requires working, rated parts to function safely.
This is a safety issue affecting not just you, but for your fellow mates as well. The parts in your rifles have been tested for metal fatigue and structural rigidity before being certified for live-firing usage.
I don't really want to see a thread about dead recruits and exploding rifles here.
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Adding Bayonet into the Picture will be good.
Since any weapon or related items are lost, it's considered a charging offense (if i'm not wrong or at least from what i've heard)
Having a platoon mate losing bayonet during field-camp means that it's as good as losing a life (since it might be used to kill another person)
Thus in the event of losing this bayonet, immediately report it to the superiors so that they can narrow down the search and thus lessen any more trouble up ahead if it's only being report back after the field- camp
As for losing it during Guard-Duty, the impact will not be that great as the places of search are limited.
Back to M16S1.
Any parts that's lost, just report, at most confinement if not DB..
But come to think of it, it's not easy to lose the items inside the riffle if u were to look at it.
As cleaning of riffle is only done at certain times of the day etc...
Thus there should not be any losing of items inside..
The one thing to take note is magazine, as some riffles are old, and there's a tendency that it might drop, so i think black tape will than come into the picture by than..
Note: I will not elaborate on the names nor the exact stuffs inside the riffle since it's part of SAF secrets which can't supposed even to be written/ bring outside (be it verbally or visually) Tekong/ each respective units/camps etc. -
To add on to the above, please do not try to be stupid and take parts of your weapon out of camp for the sheer challenge of it.
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Originally posted by the_fallen:
Adding Bayonet into the Picture will be good.
Since any weapon or related items are lost, it's considered a charging offense (if i'm not wrong or at least from what i've heard)
Having a platoon mate losing bayonet during field-camp means that it's as good as losing a life (since it might be used to kill another person)
Thus in the event of losing this bayonet, immediately report it to the superiors so that they can narrow down the search and thus lessen any more trouble up ahead if it's only being report back after the field- camp
As for losing it during Guard-Duty, the impact will not be that great as the places of search are limited.
Back to M16S1.
Any parts that's lost, just report, at most confinement if not DB..
But come to think of it, it's not easy to lose the items inside the riffle if u were to look at it.
As cleaning of riffle is only done at certain times of the day etc...
Thus there should not be any losing of items inside..
The one thing to take note is magazine, as some riffles are old, and there's a tendency that it might drop, so i think black tape will than come into the picture by than..
Note: I will not elaborate on the names nor the exact stuffs inside the riffle since it's part of SAF secrets which can't supposed even to be written/ bring outside (be it verbally or visually) Tekong/ each respective units/camps etc.
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Yeah! This one is like the case where the camp guard from 1SIR took it to show his girlfriend and was caught at Orchard Cineleisure.Originally posted by LazerLordz:To add on to the above, please do not try to be stupid and take parts of your weapon out of camp for the sheer challenge of it.
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But then, thats why in BMT, they always ask Recruits to cock and then send arms so that the CDO and armskoteman can double check clear and also see if the inside mechanisms are still there.Originally posted by nightzip:Yeah! This one is like the case where the camp guard from 1SIR took it to show his girlfriend and was caught at Orchard Cineleisure. -
true.Originally posted by LazerLordz:[b]
Here's what I'd like to advise you guys. Whatever parts you may get at Beach Road, is not range-certified nor may it stand up to safe usage in your exercises. -
To add on:
During Range
If You Encountered IA ( when the bullets dont come out when after you press the Trigger), DO NOT, continue pressing it ( unless u want a chamber explosion if it's double feeding)
Either do the IA procedures or pass it to the ArmStroke Specalist ( correct me if i m wrong, i forgot the term) sitting nearby.
And in a range only point the rifle towards the target, and not anyone where else. -
Originally posted by kenn3th:
The guy standing nearby is a safety specialist. I think if got armstroke spec he will be at ammo point.
To add on:
During Range
If You Encountered IA ( when the bullets dont come out when after you press the Trigger), [b]DO NOT, continue pressing it ( unless u want a chamber explosion if it's double feeding)
Either do the IA procedures or pass it to the ArmStroke Specalist ( correct me if i m wrong, i forgot the term) sitting nearby.
And in a range only point the rifle towards the target, and not anyone where else. [/b] -
There's something which I left out.
Which is the cleaning of the Riffle.
Anybody who's riffle isn't clean, when it comes to Ammo Inspection, anybody's Riffle found to be in unpleasant condition (dirty) might face disciplinary actions.
From what I heard before I book out, people who don't clean their riffles properly will face Confinement.
Don't think that while during usual cleaning riffle session, we can avoid letting the sergeants check our riffles by cleaning it slowly and waiting for the time to return back arms. (You can only do this when there's no Ammo Inspection)
Should there be Ammo Inspection, those who didn't clean their riffles properly, better make sure it's being clean or else confinement. Thus cleaning of riffle/bayonet/other weapons which are issued upon must be taken seriously.
During field-camp or Situational Test or any other trips which requires the weapon to be with you: You have got to prepare oil (recommended) bottle with you to oil the weapon exterior to prevent it from rusting.
Simple steps like oiling is a good practice. (That is if you don't want to waste your time at the end of the trip to de-rust the weapon which is very time-consuming.) -
nt really weapons safety but
if u are issued with loaded mag, try to check if the bullets are properly feed into the mag.
and check the amt of bullets in the mag is correct -
This is one issue I hope all BMTC instructors will take note.
What you call "elephants in the barrel", are likely to be pitted spots and eroded rifling spots. Further "scraping" by use of the "christmas tree" will only serve to erode the rifling of the barrel and potentially render the rifle unfit for use.
Armskote specs please do not leave your oil containers in the rain. Your CLP will be as good as useless.
As for everyone out in the field, please bring two bottles of weapon oil and oil your M16S1/AR-15 rifle's exposed metal parts like your gas port cover, barrel, sight tip frame (Not the white illum sight) and the area around your carrying handle. -
Originally posted by kenn3th:
Hold a second, I think press many times after IA also no diff leh.
To add on:
During Range
If You Encountered IA ( when the bullets dont come out when after you press the Trigger), [b]DO NOT, continue pressing it ( unless u want a chamber explosion if it's double feeding)
Either do the IA procedures or pass it to the ArmStroke Specalist ( correct me if i m wrong, i forgot the term) sitting nearby.
And in a range only point the rifle towards the target, and not anyone where else. [/b]
Either the bolt move forward but the magazine loose so the bullet doesn't feed into the chamber.
Or, the hammer is released and strikes the primer but no reaction. So no recoil = the bolt carrier doesn't go back and feed another round = hammer is not cocked = press trigger again, no reaction from hammer.
I think so. -
Lazerlord SIW specialist ar?
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got diff kinds.Originally posted by SBS3625D:Hold a second, I think press many times after IA also no diff leh.
Either the bolt move forward but the magazine loose so the bullet doesn't feed into the chamber.
Or, the hammer is released and strikes the primer but no reaction. So no recoil = the bolt carrier doesn't go back and feed another round = hammer is not cocked = press trigger again, no reaction from hammer.
I think so.
IA no feeding
IA Double Feeding ( Dangerous, i encountered b4, twice in a range session) -
Ps. check that after you clean your weapon remove the 5pcs rod frm the barrel. Nothing should obstruct the barrel.
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for SAW...when taking out gas regulator...pls watch out for the spring...
mine last time flew out from my bunk at 5th floor to the parade square....damn paiseh...then have to look for that small spring thing
damn suay -
No, Armament Spec.Originally posted by sLeEpWaLkErInG:Lazerlord SIW specialist ar? -
Good point.Originally posted by Rockhound:for SAW...when taking out gas regulator...pls watch out for the spring...
mine last time flew out from my bunk at 5th floor to the parade square....damn paiseh...then have to look for that small spring thing
damn suay
Use your rifle cleaning cloth to loosely wrap around the regulator when you try to remove it. -
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAOriginally posted by Rockhound:for SAW...when taking out gas regulator...pls watch out for the spring...
mine last time flew out from my bunk at 5th floor to the parade square....damn paiseh...then have to look for that small spring thing
damn suay -
Hw long did it take you?Originally posted by Rockhound:for SAW...when taking out gas regulator...pls watch out for the spring...
mine last time flew out from my bunk at 5th floor to the parade square....damn paiseh...then have to look for that small spring thing
damn suay
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does not really matter whether double feeding or no feeding, once you squeeze the trigger, and there is double feeding, there won't be enough energy to push the bolt carrier back, tested and proven. the energy from the explosion of the previous round is used to reload the next round if u get what i mean. sorry for the crude terms, i swear that army makes u stupidOriginally posted by kenn3th:got diff kinds.
IA no feeding
IA Double Feeding ( Dangerous, i encountered b4, twice in a range session)
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lol i dont care about the IA stuffs i just shout IA IA
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They sell AR15/M16 parts at Beach Road?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Here's what I'd like to advise you guys. Whatever parts you may get at Beach Road, is not range-certified nor may it stand up to safe usage in your exercises. -
Those retaining pins la..Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:They sell AR15/M16 parts at Beach Road?