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I think everyone is issued with No.3 in Air Force and Navy, cause parades are usually in No. 3.Originally posted by chanjyj:dunno about navy.
but I know airforce clerks are issued No. 3. But they can wear No. 4 if they want. Navy and airforce is extremely non-regimental with the exception of the FDS and NDU. -
They planning on shifting most of the B veh to contractors thats why they downsizing us quite alot but i think A mech got a slight increase though i heard but the increase wasn't as much as our decrease...Originally posted by LazerLordz:One day they will feel the regret. It's not always about saving costs.
I used to chat with some of the WOs about this, then they would say, "You know I know can already, but let them suffer if they want to act smart."
The batch before me had about 100 trainees for B meh, from my batch onwards it was about 60 and the resultant is all the B mech bases are are all facing a lack of manpower especially near the transition period as understudies are going to be non existant since replacement often comes after the previous batch is gone and not like the past when there was a few months with seniors and juniors to train each other.
Top management in MES n CSSMCOM as usual don't bother what happens down on the formation level. TPT complain we have too much VOR and yet they still want reduce no. of b mech. Theres only that many of us and alot more vehicles... -
Why change a perfectly good system right?Originally posted by dkcx:They planning on shifting most of the B veh to contractors thats why they downsizing us quite alot but i think A mech got a slight increase though i heard but the increase wasn't as much as our decrease...
The batch before me had about 100 trainees for B meh, from my batch onwards it was about 60 and the resultant is all the B mech bases are are all facing a lack of manpower especially near the transition period as understudies are going to be non existant since replacement often comes after the previous batch is gone and not like the past when there was a few months with seniors and juniors to train each other.
Top management in MES n CSSMCOM as usual don't bother what happens down on the formation level. TPT complain we have too much VOR and yet they still want reduce no. of b mech. Theres only that many of us and alot more vehicles... -
How often does army changes something good to bad? Ask the regulars, who prefers ES to LMIS?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Why change a perfectly good system right? -
its their newfound idea of sub-contracting out all non-essential things, that they feel civilians can do...so that fighting force can be maximised.
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The problem is lack of training reduces all new technicians knowledge since alot of skills are not passed on. In the past we could even attached 1 new tech to 1 ORD tech to learn all the things they know etc as for us different tech we focus on different areas. Eg, I was 1 of the specs who learnt more about 5 ton air system diagnostics, electrical systems and also 1 of the few who know how to programme the 5 ton speedo which fix it at 50 instead of the max speed of 110. However i know nuts about that LR since i avoid that vehicle at all cost : Most of all these skills i didn't managed to pass on to anyone since there wasn't time and i had to train my understudy to take over ES system and not maintainance work. Even that i had only about 10 days or less to pass on my knowledge since the norm as always is PTEs will kanna sai kang and that period we had to have major events like CMEO COC, COC of 1 armour platoon from 6AMB to 9AMB etc etc so i even had to 'fight' with regulars to keep my understudies in camp to continue training. Super piss of during that period, you don't know how many leaves and offs i had to cancel, reschedule to fit their schedule and mess up mine. In the end i didn't even managed to clear all of them...Originally posted by specialOps:its their newfound idea of sub-contracting out all non-essential things, that they feel civilians can do...so that fighting force can be maximised.
Contractors can do work in peace time but you won't see a company of contractors follow you outfield, go overseas for exercise etc. All such maintainance are still done by regulars and NSF and with the recent downsizing, alot of skills are being lost as they leave with regulars n NSF who leave the service before many can fully train someone to take over. -
Haha, well. When stuff flows down from Army Conference, shit gets mixed in between.Originally posted by specialOps:its their newfound idea of sub-contracting out all non-essential things, that they feel civilians can do...so that fighting force can be maximised.
I hardly see field depot maintenance of armament systems as non-essential.
With this, they've suddenly created a huge mass of NSmen who're either 3SG or 2SG but not revocable to combat duties due to their PES Status. -
So whats ur NS unit now then? I wonder whether i'll be sent back to the same unit i was supposed to go to for NS when i ORD if i delay it till grad. The unit isn't 1 i feel like going but then i guess its worse if they throw me out of maintaince to combat etc...Originally posted by LazerLordz:Haha, well. When stuff flows down from Army Conference, shit gets mixed in between.
I hardly see field depot maintenance of armament systems as non-essential.
With this, they've suddenly created a huge mass of NSmen who're either 3SG or 2SG but not revocable to combat duties due to their PES Status. -
don't talk about EPS and ES can.. my blood boil alreadyOriginally posted by dkcx:How often does army changes something good to bad? Ask the regulars, who prefers ES to LMIS?
Later you start talking about cardinal and then I'll start chopping off people's heads.
Change is good, teething problems I can understand, but the "teething problems" STILL have not been solved.. that's the damned problem. -
When do they bother to solve problems fast? Most of the stuff i suggested to help improve workflow on our level has been rejected and their excuse is the system is made in such a way that the higher management can do this do that easily... How often are they going to do those stuff and how often are we using it for our work. The number of problematic MOs in ES is ever increasing and higher management only ask us to clear the shit but they don't care that its partly the system thats causing us to have alot of shit.Originally posted by chanjyj:don't talk about EPS and ES can.. my blood boil already
Later you start talking about cardinal and then I'll start chopping off people's heads.
Change is good, teething problems I can understand, but the "teething problems" STILL have not been solved.. that's the damned problem. -
No NS Unit.Originally posted by dkcx:So whats ur NS unit now then? I wonder whether i'll be sent back to the same unit i was supposed to go to for NS when i ORD if i delay it till grad. The unit isn't 1 i feel like going but then i guess its worse if they throw me out of maintaince to combat etc... -
Wah so no need serve reservist ahOriginally posted by LazerLordz:No NS Unit. -
Not to mention half the time the system is slow/lag or even crashOriginally posted by dkcx:When do they bother to solve problems fast? Most of the stuff i suggested to help improve workflow on our level has been rejected and their excuse is the system is made in such a way that the higher management can do this do that easily... How often are they going to do those stuff and how often are we using it for our work. The number of problematic MOs in ES is ever increasing and higher management only ask us to clear the shit but they don't care that its partly the system thats causing us to have alot of shit.
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Thanks for reminding me about that... With all the shit i had to clear and help/teach transport to clear, lag was 1 of the least of my worries. When system is down i simply get an official excuse to slack in office to start OT once system is up which happens too often for comfort...Originally posted by chanjyj:Not to mention half the time the system is slow/lag or even crash -
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OT was commonplace during LMIS' existence. In fact, sometimes the system was such a cock that I wondered if I should simply convince my boss to let me work from 2pm to 11pm.Originally posted by dkcx:Thanks for reminding me about that... With all the shit i had to clear and help/teach transport to clear, lag was 1 of the least of my worries. When system is down i simply get an official excuse to slack in office to start OT once system is up which happens too often for comfort...
Always ended work at 11pm, sometimes 0030.
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I try my best to finish work by 11.30am-aka the start of lunch at cookhouse, then would always take away 1 extra packet.......Originally posted by LazerLordz:OT was commonplace during LMIS' existence. In fact, sometimes the system was such a cock that I wondered if I should simply convince my boss to let me work from 2pm to 11pm.
Always ended work at 11pm, sometimes 0030.
..........then I head off to sleep on my sofa till 3, then take my second tapao-ed lunch as a snack.... read some newspapers, look at the clock, pack my bags and ready to go at 5.30pm
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I never have to work past 10 cos my MSG card access was limited from 7am to 10pm each day. It was only later by the time i was leaving that they applied for a 24hr licence but most of my OT were done by then.
Normally i go to lunch at 11.30 to beat the crowd and return to office by 12 to continue working. I don't go for tea breaks so i use all these time to finish up my work to try minimise the need for OT unless last minute something coop up or worse system down and suay suay recover before 5.30. Till my last day in camp i didn't have the luxury to just spent the whole day in office sleeping even though i spent the last 2-3 days more monitoring and teaching than really working since i left the work to them and start training after they finish what they need do. -
Even for me as a medical centre medic, I don't take tea breaks as it sometimes take lot of paper work. Usually, 1 week I need to go CMPB at least once until abt 1630. Only in my last 6 months when my understudy can handle my job scope, I took early tea break with my 2IC in the canteen. Lunch also start early as we have the previlige to da pao in lunch boxes from the cook house from the officer side and sometime extra dishes due to the good relationship between us and the cook house IC.
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My understudy only came less than a month before i leave and during that period there was over a week they were sent out for sai kang since i only managed to fight and kept them back for 1 day out of all the days they were supposed to go. Including my own leaves n offs, i had less than 10 days to train them and from someone who dunno the entire ES system and transport/maintainance workflow, they had to master everything in that short time period which i won't say was easy. They didn't learn everything 100% but if they managed to absorb 75% of all the things i taught them i think it would already be gd.Originally posted by tarutaru:Even for me as a medical centre medic, I don't take tea breaks as it sometimes take lot of paper work. Usually, 1 week I need to go CMPB at least once until abt 1630. Only in my last 6 months when my understudy can handle my job scope, I took early tea break with my 2IC in the canteen. Lunch also start early as we have the previlige to da pao in lunch boxes from the cook house from the officer side and sometime extra dishes due to the good relationship between us and the cook house IC. -
ha....when I left, heard that my understudy did not pick up all I teach him at all.Originally posted by dkcx:My understudy only came less than a month before i leave and during that period there was over a week they were sent out for sai kang since i only managed to fight and kept them back for 1 day out of all the days they were supposed to go. Including my own leaves n offs, i had less than 10 days to train them and from someone who dunno the entire ES system and transport/maintainance workflow, they had to master everything in that short time period which i won't say was easy. They didn't learn everything 100% but if they managed to absorb 75% of all the things i taught them i think it would already be gd. -
After 6 months... thats bad. I heard my understudy not doing well as well cos of the 2, the better 1 got posted out and the weaker 1 stayed. However with just 10 days or so of training, i can't really blame them for something i took half a year to self study and practice to learn. Even with guidance, they still lack the experience which is something they need depend on themselves.Originally posted by tarutaru:ha....when I left, heard that my understudy did not pick up all I teach him at all. -
Well I guess sometimes it's like a crash course, although half a year seem long, but if you take out the leaves, offs, wkend and holidays out you practically left with only 2-3 months to take over. That's what happened to my understudy. Did not pick up quick enough also did not ask for advice before I left so I presume he know everything.Originally posted by dkcx:After 6 months... thats bad. I heard my understudy not doing well as well cos of the 2, the better 1 got posted out and the weaker 1 stayed. However with just 10 days or so of training, i can't really blame them for something i took half a year to self study and practice to learn. Even with guidance, they still lack the experience which is something they need depend on themselves. -
After I ORDed, I still got calls from my replacement. For three months.
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Of my 2 understudies, the 1 that will call me when he dunno stuff is the better 1 who gets posted out. The 1 left is the 1 that got problem he also won't call and i need call him to check if hes doing well before i know all the things that is messed up. After i left unit only had 1 call from the better understudy and after he posted out, no more calls liao but is that meaning everything going on smoothly? I don't think so...Originally posted by LazerLordz:After I ORDed, I still got calls from my replacement. For three months.