Final advices for me
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I see tt u r old bird here..so i hope to be able to seek some advice frm u.
I will be enlisting to 1sir for ptp soon. However, i haf some personal problems which is tt i worry constantly for anything and everything. Its a problem tt i haf since young. When i went for medical check up, i was given pesA. at tt time, i did not tell the MO my condition becos i dun haf any supporting evidence and my biggest problem was inability to connect to pple. any the worse thing started to reach me..i was thinking up and down many straightforward things abt ns and thus losing slp and appetite. my mum asked me y i was talking to myself but i didn't even know tt i was doing so! and i thought tt since i am going ns, i haf to do something to help myself. i was seriously in distress tt time partly becos of unable to go poly and had to enter ns, and also my worries which affected my life so greatly. I first went to mount elizabeth hospital for a free consultation wif the head counsellor there and afterwhich he adviced me to go polyclinic for insomnia treatment first and he will arrange a counsellor for me. So i went to get medication for insomnia and referral to specialist which is the behavioural medicine clinic a branch of IMH. If u haf seen my topics and posts, it is somewhat matching something called GAD generalised anxiety disorder. I haf went for both counselling and IMH appointments on a monthly basis but haf since stopped due to NS enlistment date. My specialist said tt either i go back to cmpb and show them my appointment card so tt they can request him for my letter or i enter NS first and see how since there r counsellors, psychologists in saf too. at tt time, i decided to enter ns first since i doubt they will entertain me if i go back to cmpb wif juz an appointment card. My counsellor has also left the hospital becos his term ended and he said tt if i nid help again i could call back there and ask to be arranged a counsellor again but its like a waste of time if i haf to repeat everything again.
Someone frm this forum said tt i could speak to my pc during interview and see whether i could be referred to MO. But i am in a loss now. As the date comes nearer, my thoughts run wild..i cnt control imaginery fear. There's always something in mind tt tells me i will die inside. I do haf my appointment card, polyclinic,IMH receipts and my medical label wif me though..what shld i do? I am veri afraid my condition will be kept under wraps and i am left to suffer or this whole thing takes too long and constant worries will juz affect me again and again. what shld i do?
Some said i am trying to keng, some said i juz continue wif training( which i doubt i can), some said i talk to pc. what shld i do? i am freaking out.pls gif me some advices b4 i enlist. -
faster declare la!!
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declare what?Originally posted by stellazio:faster declare la!! -
I believe i have said enough and repeated myself enough to you. Whether you want to listen or not thats up to you. You make me tired...
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just.... dun pick up the soap ok
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Call CMPB and declare you're 3O2 and they will arrange a relaxed position for uOriginally posted by AhJun:declare what?
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ok, declare you have this condition. asap. you shud nt be "a"
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i juz nid final advice. u shld haf known tt its not whether i want to listen anot. its the Need for frequent reassurance and approval( matching GAD symptom)Originally posted by dkcx:I believe i have said enough and repeated myself enough to you. Whether you want to listen or not thats up to you. You make me tired... -
ONLY then u shall pick up the soapOriginally posted by Detached:Call CMPB and declare you're 3O2 and they will arrange a relaxed position for u 
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declare to pc? i am afraid tt i will be left to struggle or haf to wait for a long time b4 my case is revised. i will probably die.Originally posted by kenn3th:ok, declare you have this condition. asap. you shud nt be "a" -
I know your condition but that doesn't mean i am going to care. Just because you have that condition so you want to forever just give in to it and use it as an excuse rather than help yourself overcome it? Do you need everyone in the forum to repeat the same thing before you are satisfied?Originally posted by AhJun:i juz nid final advice. u shld haf known tt its not whether i want to listen anot. its the Need for frequent reassurance and approval( matching GAD symptom)
I don't believe in mental conditions that are totally incurable. Alot depends on whether the person himself wants to help himself or not. You need to start trying to get use to listening to what a few people say and accept that answer. You only have a few sect commns, 1 PS, 1 PC, 1 2IC, 1 OC. Do you need to speak to all of them and only accept the answer after all of the give you the same answer... -
If you don't tell your PC, you want to just carry on 2yrs with your problem and suffer for 2 yrs?Originally posted by AhJun:declare to pc? i am afraid tt i will be left to struggle or haf to wait for a long time b4 my case is revised. i will probably die.
The army is never famous for its efficiency. No matter what you just have to accept whatever assurance you have been given and wait. YOU WILL NOT DIE AND DON'T KEEP THINKING OF THAT
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There is no way one wif mental conditions can be able to overcome it individually. its hard. there muz be treatment. i dun nid everyone in this forum to repeat the same thing. its the frequent nid for reassurance and approval which is a gad symptom. so i can't help it.Originally posted by dkcx:I know your condition but that doesn't mean i am going to care. Just because you have that condition so you want to forever just give in to it and use it as an excuse rather than help yourself overcome it? Do you need everyone in the forum to repeat the same thing before you are satisfied?
I don't believe in mental conditions that are totally incurable. Alot depends on whether the person himself wants to help himself or not. You need to start trying to get use to listening to what a few people say and accept that answer. You only have a few sect commns, 1 PS, 1 PC, 1 2IC, 1 OC. Do you need to speak to all of them and only accept the answer after all of the give you the same answer...
mental conditions r curable but its impossible for one to depend on himself individually. its medication and counselling. that is what my counsellor said. no way can one depend on himself. and it takes time right even if i haf to try to get use to accept ans frm pple. what u r saying is like a smoker listening to pple whu tell him to quit smoking and accept it juz like that? there is no way. it definitely takes time to overcome it. -
Yes it takes time and it might requires external help but are you even trying? If you really wanted to overcome it, i was willing to help and i dare say there will be others who are not posting nonsense who would be willing to help you out but none of us can do anything unless you yourself want to be helped and thats not what i am seeing.Originally posted by AhJun:There is no way one wif mental conditions can be able to overcome it individually. its hard. there muz be treatment. i dun nid everyone in this forum to repeat the same thing. its the frequent nid for reassurance and approval which is a gad symptom. so i can't help it.
mental conditions r curable but its impossible for one to depend on himself individually. its medication and counselling. that is what my counsellor said. no way can one depend on himself. and it takes time right even if i haf to try to get use to accept ans frm pple. what u r saying is like a smoker listening to pple whu tell him to quit smoking and accept it juz like that? there is no way. it definitely takes time to overcome it.
I've tried talking nicely to you but you don't want to listen or accept help. Need me to fuk you like what a combat spec will do to a REC to make you listen? 1 yr as a spec and i've never fuk any of my guys or guards and don't be the first person i want to fuk as a spec. -
why didn't u delcare during the med checkup in da first place?
but oh well, think about the positive side. the army might actually cure you of your problem. -
Originally posted by AhJun:
haven't even entered the army ...
Some said i am trying to keng, some said i juz continue wif training( which i doubt i can), some said i talk to pc. what shld i do? i am freaking out.pls gif me some advices b4 i enlist. [/b]
haven't even try, you can cannot take it .....
what do you call this ? ...
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Your CO, OO, OC will do their best that you don't screw up their careers. So, there is nothing to worry about. If you think you have a condition, tell them.
Some anxiety is common. Most people have it, its just that you are able to express yourself in this forum.
Thousands of young men like you have gone through NS. Just tell yourself : "if they can, why can't you ?" -
i want to help myself but somehow i seem to be struggling. there seems to be something in mind myself tt leads me to post irritating qns. and pls u r not a combat spec. u r a logistic spec under maintenance.Originally posted by dkcx:Yes it takes time and it might requires external help but are you even trying? If you really wanted to overcome it, i was willing to help and i dare say there will be others who are not posting nonsense who would be willing to help you out but none of us can do anything unless you yourself want to be helped and thats not what i am seeing.
I've tried talking nicely to you but you don't want to listen or accept help. Need me to fuk you like what a combat spec will do to a REC to make you listen? 1 yr as a spec and i've never fuk any of my guys or guards and don't be the first person i want to fuk as a spec. -
how to declare? i haf no supporting documents. the things tt hit me HARD comes after ttOriginally posted by stellazio:why didn't u delcare during the med checkup in da first place?
but oh well, think about the positive side. the army might actually cure you of your problem. -
yes i haven even enter the army. yes i haven even try but i didn't say i cnt take it. i haven even try but i am alrdy worrying anything and everything from what to do if boots dun fit TO how and when to get clearance form when ORD. Veri clearly its one of GAD symptom over excessive worry over future things, exaggerated worries etc etcOriginally posted by Fatum:haven't even entered the army ...
haven't even try, you can cannot take it .....
what do you call this ? ... -
i think my anxiety is somewhat different. its not the culture shock tt kind of nervous emotion thoughOriginally posted by KoolKool:Your CO, OO, OC will do their best that you don't screw up their careers. So, there is nothing to worry about. If you think you have a condition, tell them.
Some anxiety is common. Most people have it, its just that you are able to express yourself in this forum.
Thousands of young men like you have gone through NS. Just tell yourself : "if they can, why can't you ?" -
You clearly recognize that those excess worrying are just some GAD symptom, then simply don't succumb to them.Originally posted by AhJun:yes i haven even enter the army. yes i haven even try but i didn't say i cnt take it. i haven even try but i am alrdy worrying anything and everything from what to do if boots dun fit TO how and when to get clearance form when ORD. Veri clearly its one of GAD symptom over excessive worry over future things, exaggerated worries etc etc
It's like knowing that stabbing your leg with a jack knife would hurt; yet stabbing so furiously and refusing to stop. -
In the army a spec is a spec whether logistics or combat. We are all given the authority to exercise any forms of punishment within our level. Log specs rarely punish/pump/fuk their men doesn't mean we can't when we are required to.Originally posted by AhJun:i want to help myself but somehow i seem to be struggling. there seems to be something in mind myself tt leads me to post irritating qns. and pls u r not a combat spec. u r a logistic spec under maintenance.
If you do not open yourself to people to accept their help, what sort of help you expect to get. Its just how much you really want to cure yourself. I've a friend who has a similar condition and he has managed to get over it with alot of determination and help from friends. Its going to be a very difficult battle and its not going to be won if you intend to fight on your own. -
No one gives me determination. My family onli say ns is easier now, everyone is doing it together tt kind of thing which doesn't seem to help. And, i practically haf no friends now. I can't make it to poly. They may haf gatherings but i wasn't informed. Even if i do, i won't show up. I take olvl failure as humiliation. What i haf told u i fear to see friends/teachers outside. When i was in sec sch, if there r gatherings, i will be the last informed or not informed at all. And facing humiliation frm my family side is worst enough. I dun want to face humiliation from my frens side. Worse still, my mum seems to enjoy telling her colleagues tt i am entering NS and even changed the subject to ME entering NS if she call my aunts or my aunts gave her a call. I dun think not being able to enter poly and haf to go for NS is something worth to mention and repeat many times right? even if u finished poly/jc education and move on to NS, ur mum also dun spread it to other pple tt u r going NS every now and then right? The humiliated one is still me..of cosOriginally posted by dkcx:In the army a spec is a spec whether logistics or combat. We are all given the authority to exercise any forms of punishment within our level. Log specs rarely punish/pump/fuk their men doesn't mean we can't when we are required to.
If you do not open yourself to people to accept their help, what sort of help you expect to get. Its just how much you really want to cure yourself. I've a friend who has a similar condition and he has managed to get over it with alot of determination and help from friends. Its going to be a very difficult battle and its not going to be won if you intend to fight on your own. -
U think too much.Originally posted by AhJun:No one gives me determination. My family onli say ns is easier now, everyone is doing it together tt kind of thing which doesn't seem to help. And, i practically haf no friends now. I can't make it to poly. They may haf gatherings but i wasn't informed. Even if i do, i won't show up. I take olvl failure as humiliation. What i haf told u i fear to see friends/teachers outside. When i was in sec sch, if there r gatherings, i will be the last informed or not informed at all. And facing humiliation frm my family side is worst enough. I dun want to face humiliation from my frens side. Worse still, my mum seems to enjoy telling her colleagues tt i am entering NS and even changed the subject to ME entering NS if she call my aunts or my aunts gave her a call. I dun think not being able to enter poly and haf to go for NS is something worth to mention and repeat many times right? even if u finished poly/jc education and move on to NS, ur mum also dun spread it to other pple tt u r going NS every now and then right? The humiliated one is still me..of cos
No one gives u the determination? Is because you yourself rejects it.
The solution lies only with you.
I will say this again as I did in PM.
Army wont be as what you think it is. You will have bonding with ur mates. You will have fun together.
However, I will not say training is easy. it will be tough. You may cry even at certain levels of training. But it is still bearable. Remember, your mates will be doing the same thing as u. And thousands more have endured before you.
Education you can find anywhere. So many schools now. All you have to do is to pick and choose.