Ex-teen actor starts jail term for insubordination in NS
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I won't be discussing the other issue here.
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I agreed on what u mentioned. Some of the parents loved their son so much end up spoiling them. When these brats went to serve their full time NSOriginally posted by Fatum:I'm blaming the parents too ..... IMO it's the parents who molly-coddle their offspring that they turn into such brats .....
instead of sucking it up and taking it like a man ..... the lawyers were call in .... something which only the parents could have paid for ..... that goes to show how much the parents over protect him .... ho seh liao ... lawyers get called in, the press gets wind of this, and now he's all over the news ...... all his face's gone ....
welcome to the real world boi ....
they landed themselves in trouble with their superiors. It is of little wonder some people said NS is like a sort of teaching people how to mind their manners. -
he won't be wearing #4 if he's exempted I think .....Originally posted by will4:I read from the article, he started serving his full time NS in September 06
n gotten into trouble in October 06. I wonder if he is exempted from BMT?
After a month in unit, got into trouble already.
but no matter ... I have a feeling that this little turd's parents are going to ship darling sonny overseas as soon as his NS's over ... -
The system is such that when a kid accuses someone of molest, the cops will turn the spotlight on the fella. This is what happened when the school principal was accused.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Right on.
Same goes if a women accuses a man of rape/outrage of modesty. I've come across cases when the ensuing investigation destroys the reputation of the person, even if he's never charged by the police in the end.
Moral of the story: make friends with powerful lawyers or have them in your family. -
That's a good piece of advice.Originally posted by ChineseJunk:Moral of the story: make friends with powerful lawyers or have them in your family.
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as a soldier is quite a joke considering he's forcibly enlisted.Originally posted by Fatum:of course it's his right ...... I'm talking about taking his punishments as a man and a soldier ......
i can imagine him running crying to mommy and dear mommy engaging an expensive lawyer for darling sonny ....
these spoiled little turds deserves to go inside and "peh" for a while ..... he's the sort who "won't cry till he sees his own coffin " one ...
as a man, well as i said if he thinks its unreasonable and thinks theres a good chane to get out of it then it's ok to prevent. but of course if cannot run one then just have to take it lor
btw what so man about realising that you have only bad choices and taking the one that's least bad? groin area grows longer? -
I have a feeling that his unit might want to transfer him to other units after his release, considering the fact that he dared to be rude n chances of himOriginally posted by Fatum:he won't be wearing #4 if he's exempted I think .....
but no matter ... I have a feeling that this little turd's parents are going to ship darling sonny overseas as soon as his NS's over ...
doing it again could be high. -
Originally posted by ChineseJunk:Moral of the story: make friends with powerful lawyers or have them in your family.
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yeah unfortunately there's some stupid bias in the legal/enforcement framework. I wonder if they will ever look into it.....Originally posted by ChineseJunk:The system is such that when a kid accuses someone of molest, the cops will turn the spotlight on the fella. This is what happened when the school principal was accused.
Same goes if a women accuses a man of rape/outrage of modesty. I've come across cases when the ensuing investigation destroys the reputation of the person, even if he's never charged by the police in the end.
Moral of the story: make friends with powerful lawyers or have them in your family. -
Moral of story shld be: Dont ever argue aggressively, bargain, complain or chase a 50-year-old woman Warrant Officer.Originally posted by ChineseJunk:Moral of the story: make friends with powerful lawyers or have them in your family.
For you can never win.
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do they care?Originally posted by will4:I have a feeling that his unit might want to transfer him to other units after his release, considering the fact that he dared to be rude n chances of him
doing it again could be high.
i mean they can just charge him again. and this time they can slap even higher penalties and do it easily.
actually its pretty dumb to charge for him shrugging off the hand of the master warrant. so superiors are allowed to lay hands on lower ranked soldiers?
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Originally posted by vIn.Warrior:
Correction.
Moral of story shld be: Dont ever argue aggressively, bargain, complain or chase a [b]50-year-old woman Warrant Officer.
For you can never win. [/b]
Moral: Don't think you're above the system. A private is always a private, and will always get F-ed by anything above him. -
Well...hw was lucky the CDO Encik nv use force on him...if not....
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The MWO could be trying to pacify him n this guy could already lost control of his temper n shrug the MWO's hand.Originally posted by hisoka:do they care?
i mean they can just charge him again. and this time they can slap even higher penalties and do it easily.
actually its pretty dumb to charge for him shrugging off the hand of the master warrant. so superiors are allowed to lay hands on lower ranked soldiers? -
I'm talking about responsibilities here .... we were all "forcibly enlisted", whether we all liked it or not is beside the point of us serving dutifully and conducting ourselves within the law ....Originally posted by hisoka:as a soldier is quite a joke considering he's forcibly enlisted.
as a man, well as i said if he thinks its unreasonable and thinks theres a good chane to get out of it then it's ok to prevent. but of course if cannot run one then just have to take it lor
btw what so man about realising that you have only bad choices and taking the one that's least bad? groin area grows longer?
same thing within a society, you break the rules, you pay for it ... I'm not talking just about the criminal justice system either ... in the school for example, if you step outside the bounds of permissible behaviour, you get slapped down, no ? ...
in this case we're not talking about him drug trafficking or robbing someone, he's not looking at the gallows or 20 years in jail .... this is a young man who hasn't realized the limits of his power, and, like I said just now, his parents are responsible for his predicament in a way also, it's 7 days DB ..... not 7 years in changi .... to call in lawyers ? .... -
He went in seven days of DB n it is quite lenient already as some went in ten to fourty days for insubordination.Originally posted by Fatum:I'm talking about responsibilities here .... we were all "forcibly enlisted", whether we all liked it or not is beside the point of us serving dutifully and conducting ourselves within the law ....
same thing within a society, you break the rules, you pay for it ... I'm not talking just about the criminal justice system either ... in the school for example, if you step outside the bounds of permissible behaviour, you get slapped down, no ? ...
in this case we're not talking about him drug trafficking or robbing someone, he's not looking at the gallows or 20 years in jail .... this is a young man who hasn't realized the limits of his power, and, like I said just now, his parents are responsible for his predicament in a way also, it's 7 days DB ..... not 7 years in changi .... to call in lawyers ? .... -
Do they still shave detainees botak and make them march around with a full pack loaded with bricks?
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All this goes to show that you can never be a White Horse by fame, wealth, or any other means except by birthright.
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Originally posted by blitzonic:Jack Neo's two "I Not Stupid" proteges, take note. Or have they enlisted?
by the looks of it, very likely to be Marcus' apprentices.
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Botak yes, but marching with bricks I don't know. I've personally picked up two detainees from DB during my NS days when they were released. One went in for AWOL, and the other for drug possession. Suffice it to say that they were pretty well-conditioned in there for obedience.Originally posted by ChineseJunk:Do they still shave detainees botak and make them march around with a full pack loaded with bricks? -
why?Originally posted by vIn.Warrior:
by the looks of it, very likely to be Marcus' apprentices. -
I would hardly think that a two bit child actor from TCS would be counted as a white horse ...Originally posted by rooki:All this goes to show that you can never be a White Horse by fame, wealth, or any other means except by birthright. -
Yeah lor....appeared on TV call white horse...then a lot of guys will be white horse already...Originally posted by Fatum:I would hardly think that a two bit child actor from TCS would be counted as a white horse ...
Anyway...shows how boliao ST has become....not that we don't know about it. -
actually thats just how you and some other pple feel. to serve dutifully or not is really open to question. conducting within the law true, unless you can get out of it or not get caught.Originally posted by Fatum:I'm talking about responsibilities here .... we were all "forcibly enlisted", whether we all liked it or not is beside the point of us serving dutifully and conducting ourselves within the law ....
same thing within a society, you break the rules, you pay for it ... I'm not talking just about the criminal justice system either ... in the school for example, if you step outside the bounds of permissible behaviour, you get slapped down, no ? ...
in this case we're not talking about him drug trafficking or robbing someone, he's not looking at the gallows or 20 years in jail .... this is a young man who hasn't realized the limits of his power, and, like I said just now, his parents are responsible for his predicament in a way also, it's 7 days DB ..... not 7 years in changi .... to call in lawyers ? ....
you take responsibilties for you actions yes, but that doesn't mean taking whatever they throw at you because they think you deserve it. you also have personaly responsibility to avoid punishments and such if you do not think you deserve it; whether you can or not is another matter.
*shrugs*
no doubt the parents are involved, but if the lawyer could have gotten rid of the 7 days and they can well afford the money why not? well that discounting whether the db will do him good(i'm not convinced it will do him good btw).
actually if the lawyer got him off the hook, it might be said that he stood up to the tyranny of the officers involved for his rights and innocence. but it didn't turn out that way of course. -
so they really break them mentally in there?Originally posted by dakkon_blackblade:Botak yes, but marching with bricks I don't know. I've personally picked up two detainees from DB during my NS days when they were released. One went in for AWOL, and the other for drug possession. Suffice it to say that they were pretty well-conditioned in there for obedience.