Sign on. For Money or Passion?
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hi, im thinking of appling for the joint diploma scheme.
after completing my dipolma, i will be enlisting for 2 years of army right? and when im serving the minium of 3 years (after the 2 years of army), do you think i can buy a car and study part time at a private university? because having your own transport cuts down time.
do you think its okay?
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own transport, especially cars....i don't think nowadays will cut down time.
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Dont sign on for the $.
Sign on for the interest in protecting your country.
If not, regrets are bound to happen
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but overall do you think its alright?
and btw, what vocation is kind of a desk job? im planning to sign up for jpdsd
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another question: in poly i will get 1k a month right? when i'm in the army, how much do i get a month?
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All I can say is.......if you're gonna sign-on for the above reasons, you'll regret it.
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Originally posted by Jere12 gb:
hi, im thinking of appling for the joint diploma scheme.
after completing my dipolma, i will be enlisting for 2 years of army right? and when im serving the minium of 3 years (after the 2 years of army), do you think i can buy a car and study part time at a private university? because having your own transport cuts down time.
do you think its okay?
during my ns time only some 2 years back, most regular sergeants i met rode motorbikes.u want car? even under 1600cc small cars, the COE is a burden. plus now impending world economic recession on the mind n inflation, coupled with the ERP Beep Beep Beep, road tax, car insurance, maintenance...
i think u just got ur license n can't wait to show off ur skills to some girls...
for military, no such thing as desk bound. yes, for permanent staff, they give u a desk for u to do some admin work. else, even during office hrs, half the time u r not there blowing air-con. only the DXO (non-military working in camps) scheme is highly desk bound.
yes, u may be financially stable since its a govt job, but i can't say for others like time, emotional, mentally, psychologically...etc.u even haven't gone thru BMT yet... dun sign on for the sake of money. as if like u want money, borrow from ah long, then later no money to even pay interest. ("money 1st, talk n pay later" mentality)
the poly or ite scheme is just a fish bait lure for flesh blood. think thrice b4 signing the dotted line. saf contract is harder to break than typical commencial contracts.
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go in first, see if you like the life, you still can sign on anytime during the 2 yrs.. who knows you might get officer bond? :D
see if you like the life first..
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u will hv lots and lots of OT without OT pay
in addition to lots and lots of time sitting in office without knowing what to do
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Originally posted by eagle:
u will hv lots and lots of OT without OT pay
in addition to lots and lots of time sitting in office without knowing what to do
play solitaire n minesweeper.
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Originally posted by Jere12 gb:
hi, im thinking of appling for the joint diploma scheme.
after completing my dipolma, i will be enlisting for 2 years of army right? and when im serving the minium of 3 years (after the 2 years of army), do you think i can buy a car and study part time at a private university? because having your own transport cuts down time.
do you think its okay?
I've been through NS,I urge you VERY STRONGLY, THINK before you sign on.Do NOT sign on for the money because you WILL regret it.If you have an interest,fine,if you have the passion fine,but do NOT sign on just because you want the money.
There are other jobs outside in the private sector that you can take and actually have an interest in,working part-time while going to unii.You can also take a student loan from the bank or negotiate with your parents to use CPF to pay for your education.
Entry level pay in SAF is high,yes,but rises slowly and plateaus out after some time. In private sector over the long term you can make more money but your entry-level pay is shit and lifestyle is definitely more hectic.
Furthermore,do you really need a car?As it is,road tax and ERP are so high,a car will be an uncessary drain on your money,not to mention instalments you'll need to pay with interest + COE.Public transport in Sg is crowded but still affordable and fast.Just make the effort to wake up earlier and get there on time.It's a matter of discipline.
You'd better have your priorities clear before you decide to enlist professionally.They'll psycho you alot in BMT as well,don't fall for it.
I would like to sign on because I enjoyed aspects of the life but disliked a lot of the other bullshit they had.But I'm always rechecking my reasons to make sure.
Go in and ensure you know what you're doing before losing 3 years of your time to a contract.You can always make money elsewhere.It the SAF easy money?Yes,for a while,but the SAF doesn't treat it's normal personnel well enough,not like the scholars.
Ultimately,its up to you,but talk to people who know what's happening.Otherwise,I wish you the best
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ok thanks, although im able to afford a car, now i think its better to get a loan from bank and pay for private degree
thanks all
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Originally posted by Jere12 gb:
ok thanks, although im able to afford a car, now i think its better to get a loan from bank and pay for private degree
thanks all
a soul with his spirit saved from being a slavery servant to the devil, like the ghostrider. -
Let's compare the situation of working in private sector vs. signing-on.
You work private sector, the environment and the people if you can't stand, quit anytime you like. You're not bound there. On the other hand, you sign-on, you don't like the people and environment, you can only suck thumb. It all depends on what attracts you to a job. Think through it.
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you are already planning to use the money for a car already ....
so what's the point of asking, if you are signing on for the money, or the passion ? ...
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even if you passion, the saf will suck it out of you..
there're deskbounds job la, like in rsaf quite a few.. always under air con..
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had passion
but they sucked me dry
so its money
but money so little
so now gonna release in september. woohoo~
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Passion easily sucked away
That's why you don't see FreedomFighter and his clones here anymore
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freedom fighter decided to go private sector and chiong there for the economic freedom of our nation. haha! when i enlist this year den i'd get a first hand taste of saf. so now, i dun really noe. but i can imagine la, juz like the commercial world but only tt you cant quit. if superior dun like you, siao liao...tekan like mad. its imaginable how bastard some ppl can get. i'm currently working under some stupid manager, and she is one hell of a stupid shit. everything also dunno, den wanna find trouble and bully temp staffs. but wad can we do? she always threaten to fire us. i heard from ppl tt saf got officers like that, always threatening too. sighs, this is so life. at every level and environment sure got bastards and bitches. i'll remember to bring ear plugs when i go in...
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fucking hell cb wad u dont see me liao..busy in taiwan at the moment lah
i silently wait in glee for my return..hehehe
SAF: THE DECISIVE FORCE!HOO RAH!
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btw TS, being a regular is good and you have many career prospects. i too am a regular and i find life is good provided you have discipline and the flaming passion in the sacred task of protecting our nation. I suggest you go down to the ARC and have a better look at the ARMY life, it's good. You get good food, lodging and even medical benefits! Not to mention the pride of wearing the no.4!
be a man, do the right thing.
AIRBORNE RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!
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army food is cat food.
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Originally posted by Saf4life:
btw TS, being a regular is good and you have many career prospects. i too am a regular and i find life is good provided you have discipline and the flaming passion in the sacred task of protecting our nation. I suggest you go down to the ARC and have a better look at the ARMY life, it's good. You get good food, lodging and even medical benefits! Not to mention the pride of wearing the no.4!
be a man, do the right thing.
AIRBORNE RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!
TS, pls dun be fooled by this siao-on regular who had sold his own soul to the devil. nonetheless, TS has decided not to sign on already.
without the scholar tag on ur files, u will be more than less given the golden handshake n a good pat on the back upon contract expiry. n ARC is as expected for show display (wayang). they didnt get a soil tank, give u shovel, n ask u to dig a shell scape or fox hole or even a firing trench in it on the spot do they... haha.
good food? if there is, then i dun know y food awards didnt goes to army cookhouses, instead to restaurants outside. haha.
medical benefits is even better for civil servants in other ministries, no less as still under govt.
as for lodging, even a university hostel room is better than a typical bunk.
and.... the regular sucker is just a trainee now. neither obtained a airbrone badge nor the ranger tag yet... so neither here nor there. -
Originally posted by Saf4life:
btw TS, being a regular is good and you have many career prospects. i too am a regular and i find life is good provided you have discipline and the flaming passion in the sacred task of protecting our nation. I suggest you go down to the ARC and have a better look at the ARMY life, it's good. You get good food, lodging and even medical benefits! Not to mention the pride of wearing the no.4!
be a man, do the right thing.
AIRBORNE RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!
Seng lee cho tua leow,hmm?
Let's hope in another couple of decades,we won't see another WO writing in to the newspaper forum page wondering why he has been given a special "early" retirement before his time is up."I dedicated my whole life to the organization,they just let me go like that?"
To the TS,glad to see that you have made a wise choice.
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Originally posted by baikachuchu:
Seng lee cho tua leow,hmm?
Let's hope in another couple of decades,we won't see another WO writing in to the newspaper forum page wondering why he has been given a special "early" retirement before his time is up."I dedicated my whole life to the organization,they just let me go like that?"
To the TS,glad to see that you have made a wise choice.
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