My deepest condolence to the family of REC Andrew.
I've been feeling very down since I heard the news and I'm going to SAFTI in 2 weeks with a very heavy heart. God, it's just less than a week since he enlisted and such things had to happen. Sometimes, I feel why is fate so cruel? It's very disheartening to see fellow brothers in arms like this. This is the first time since I joined the army that I'm crying. I can feel the pain of his family and nothing can erase this.
Andrew, may you have a peaceful afterlife and you will never be forgotten.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnbujTsTVkU&feature=related
Semper Fi brother from your sincere soldier.
Originally posted by eac:
according to the news report, incident site to tekong mc took 5 minutes.
the lack of info is the distance from site to medical centre. if the 2km walk is within the BMTC complex stadium/swim site, i believe a medic with stretcher, along with help from coursemate stretcher bearers can run a bit faster than a land rover travelling at 50km/hr with turns n twists in the roads in tekong.
MOs and medics also tried their best in the ER Resusitation room n to keep things under control, with the ER medicine in the E-trolley, AED defib, Microvent oxygen, CPR...etc.
there is a lot of protocols SOP for heli-evac. IIRC, must call up GSOC get approval authorisation, BMTC command authorisation...etc.
yup. have to call hq 9 div/inf too. CDSO, DOO and ops room will have to evaluate the case(how urgent but duh, we know it's urgent). after evaluating, have to call GSOC, then need approval from AFOG to sign papers and release heli. can imagine how long it takes already.
another fine young man gone.
RIP soldier.
Originally posted by eac:
according to the news report, incident site to tekong mc took 5 minutes.
the lack of info is the distance from site to medical centre. if the 2km walk is within the BMTC complex stadium/swim site, i believe a medic with stretcher, along with help from coursemate stretcher bearers can run a bit faster than a land rover travelling at 50km/hr with turns n twists in the roads in tekong.
MOs and medics also tried their best in the ER Resusitation room n to keep things under control, with the ER medicine in the E-trolley, AED defib, Microvent oxygen, CPR...etc.
there is a lot of protocols SOP for heli-evac. IIRC, must call up GSOC get approval authorisation, BMTC command authorisation...etc.
in case of emergency, i think the rover is allowed to exceed the 50km/h speed limit.
i ever seen a rover apparently in some kind of emergency travelling at way faster than 50km/h, dashing to the medical centre and sounding the horn all the way.
Originally posted by Unknown_X:
yup. have to call hq 9 div/inf too. CDSO, DOO and ops room will have to evaluate the case(how urgent but duh, we know it's urgent). after evaluating, have to call GSOC, then need approval from AFOG to sign papers and release heli. can imagine how long it takes already.
fark man.
i believe in an event of emergency, every sec counts.
a human life far outweigh all these dumb shit.
we can always do a follow up after everything clears.. y do we need to go thru so much hassle when it is an emergency.. they tink ppl will suka suka ask for heli meh? to go jalan kayu buy roti prata ah?
basket.
no la.. i think when medical centre requests for heli aid, the middle party i dunno who will straight away inform the respective sqn, 125 was it? to come and evacuate the recruit already.
Originally posted by stellazio:no la.. i think when medical centre requests for heli aid, the middle party i dunno who will straight away inform the respective sqn, 125 was it? to come and evacuate the recruit already.
This is the SOP for emergency evac.. problem is, the time taken in between will cause a lot of problems.
Which is why..it boils down to the medic on-site and the level of calm, skills and the equipment that he has with him at the moment.
Medics are the most important people at BMTC in my opinion, because they have to deal with the possibility of injury to any recruits, and recruits being unaccustomed to military life, will always carry a higher risk of incidents.
So, anyone here being posted to BMTC as a medic/MO, please remember the burden you carry on your shoulders. Those are somebody's sons, grandsons, brothers, boyfriends/fiances out there having their first taste of military life. Never forget that.
Originally posted by LazerLordz:This is the SOP for emergency evac.. problem is, the time taken in between will cause a lot of problems.
Which is why..it boils down to the medic on-site and the level of calm, skills and the equipment that he has with him at the moment.
Medics are the most important people at BMTC in my opinion, because they have to deal with the possibility of injury to any recruits, and recruits being unaccustomed to military life, will always carry a higher risk of incidents.
So, anyone here being posted to BMTC as a medic/MO, please remember the burden you carry on your shoulders. Those are somebody's sons, grandsons, brothers, boyfriends/fiances out there having their first taste of military life. Never forget that.
yeah MO and medics always take things lightly and think they chao keng , espicially MO. And for this case , i think those medics and MO take it too lightly as they thought is only a common fainting.
i think the 2km isn't a route march. its the brisk walk exercise for obese trainees.
the obese guys don't do route march that early... its just 5 days into enlistment
Originally posted by stellazio:no la.. i think when medical centre requests for heli aid, the middle party i dunno who will straight away inform the respective sqn, 125 was it? to come and evacuate the recruit already.
there was a brief on the process where the choppers get activated.
the process isn't long like what some of the others described.
Originally posted by Resentment:
yeah MO and medics always take things lightly and think they chao keng , espicially MO. And for this case , i think those medics and MO take it too lightly as they thought is only a common fainting.
it's of 'taking chances'
future tekong recruits ... be prepared for more water parades ....
PLATOON DRINK UP
condolences to REC Andrew's family ... RIP .. REC Andrew
Originally posted by eac:
according to the news report, incident site to tekong mc took 5 minutes.
the lack of info is the distance from site to medical centre. if the 2km walk is within the BMTC complex stadium/swim site, i believe a medic with stretcher, along with help from coursemate stretcher bearers can run a bit faster than a land rover travelling at 50km/hr with turns n twists in the roads in tekong.
MOs and medics also tried their best in the ER Resusitation room n to keep things under control, with the ER medicine in the E-trolley, AED defib, Microvent oxygen, CPR...etc.
there is a lot of protocols SOP for heli-evac. IIRC, must call up GSOC get approval authorisation, BMTC command authorisation...etc.
The 2km walk should be along coastal route.. the one which goes pass the stadium, Scabbard mess and the School 2 buildings to HQ BMTC..
shld there be a safety officer n rover on standby
I think every physical activity in army got safety officer, conducting, medic with duty driver.
Originally posted by Resentment:
yeah MO and medics always take things lightly and think they chao keng , espicially MO. And for this case , i think those medics and MO take it too lightly as they thought is only a common fainting.
PLEASE. IF you do not know anything about the MOs and medics.
PLEASE SHUT UP.
Originally posted by monoslayer:fark man.
i believe in an event of emergency, every sec counts.
a human life far outweigh all these dumb shit.
we can always do a follow up after everything clears.. y do we need to go thru so much hassle when it is an emergency.. they tink ppl will suka suka ask for heli meh? to go jalan kayu buy roti prata ah?
basket.
not as bad as u think la. they do it concurrently. just that the process is tedious. i can imagine my frens at hq 9 div peeing in their pants when they handle this incident.
Erm...MO, medic and most superiors in the army do take fainting very seriously. If something happens under their care....it will be black mark on their career record.
At this time, its not to say its the MOs fault.
They do their jobs, anything happens they have to answer for it.
You think it's easy to be one? The higher the rank, the more the responsibilities.
So future enlistees, PLEASE DECLARE WHATEVER ILLNESS( PAST OR PRESENT) TO THE MEDICAL OFFICERS.
No need to be shy about having any problems.
Originally posted by MidnightK:At this time, its not to say its the MOs fault.
They do their jobs, anything happens they have to answer for it.
You think it's easy to be one? The higher the rank, the more the responsibilities.
So future enlistees, PLEASE DECLARE WHATEVER ILLNESS( PAST OR PRESENT) TO THE MEDICAL OFFICERS.
No need to be shy about having any problems.
agree. in the end when something happens, all blame SAF. sometimes its not SAF having the problem.
Originally posted by Resentment:
yeah MO and medics always take things lightly and think they chao keng , espicially MO. And for this case , i think those medics and MO take it too lightly as they thought is only a common fainting.
I'd appreciate if you would not misquote my post out of context.
I am not blaming the medics/MOs as a collective, merely reminding some of the black sheep of their duties and responsibilities.
As of now, we do not have any concrete information, and it could be an inherent condition in the deceased that has caused his death, and may not necessarily be negligence.
Let's respect the departed and not have any flame wars on this issue.
Originally posted by MidnightK:At this time, its not to say its the MOs fault.
They do their jobs, anything happens they have to answer for it.
You think it's easy to be one? The higher the rank, the more the responsibilities.
So future enlistees, PLEASE DECLARE WHATEVER ILLNESS( PAST OR PRESENT) TO THE MEDICAL OFFICERS.
No need to be shy about having any problems.
Remember the above.
PT suspended from 12 - 14 June
Originally posted by sbst275:PT suspended from 12 - 14 June
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/353648/1/.html
I believe that many people have heart problems that are diffcult to spot.This may be due to our present lifestyle of junk or unhealthy food!