His mother left him? (died or what?)
His father been to jail countless times.
He was suffering from depression. He cant think well anyway due to lack of education.
Originally posted by gigabyte14:dumbdumb have a point la
humans are born for the sole purpose to survive also leh
xx963's just another myopical self righteous moron la.
if he can't see the big picture, then i really can't be bothered discussing with him. it'd be like talking to a child.
eh shut up lah dumbdumb. cb you dont go around calling people moron lah okay. i already mentioned that im not trying to justify his actions right. but you dont have to go around calling people moron or what, isnt it? already told you, he's a friend of mine, if not would i be so pissed with what you said? will you just shut up at a corner if i were to say your friend is a moron? duh no! ... wtf please.
Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:i'm not condoning his actions.
its just that you seem to be suggesting that it is so easy for a someone suffering from depression to start talking to people about their problems. if depression can be overcome so easily, people won't have to ponder over decision to visit psychiatrists, least go to them for treatment.
isn't visiting psychiatrists talking it out in some way of sorts?
I know it's not easy, but you've to have e effort to get e ball rolling first
Originally posted by xx963:eh shut up lah dumbdumb. cb you dont go around calling people moron lah okay. i already mentioned that im not trying to justify his actions right. but you dont have to go around calling people moron or what, isnt it? already told you, he's a friend of mine, if not would i be so pissed with what you said? will you just shut up at a corner if i were to say your friend is a moron? duh no! ... wtf please.
i believe someone once told me, you call a dog, "a dog"?
this is what i see, his girlfriend broke up with him, boohoo, yeah, life sucks, get on with it.
but did he get on with it? no. that smart alec decided to break his grandmother's heart (probably the only person who really loves him) and do the most stupid thing possible, AWOL and try to murder an entire family (totally lacking in foresight, showing his maturity level - level 0).
for that, i cannot forgive him.
and as for you, ya, i don't care if you're loyal to him or what.. he screwed up royally, that's what i see. and he totally deserves it. and if you can say this:
yup she is a lesbian. apparently she's 19 this year and her lesbian gf is 2 years younger than her, which makes her 17. shortly after Dave and her broke up, Crystal got with Kervon. her blog url can be found on technorati, kervonlim.livejournal.com. go have a look. i also feel Dave should've just shot them.
you're as big an idiot as he is. everyone has the right to choose who they want to be with. and as sad as the situation is for dave, the girl did the right thing. who wants to be with a weak-minded person? abit of thing only, want to kill others, want revenge, filled with dark emotions. you think this is manga ah? he's sasuke?
if he's a real man, he'd pick himself up from the break up, learn from it, and be a better person from this experience. and you, as a friend, shouldn't encourage his actions and say stuff like "ya, if i were him, i'll also shoot them", if your friend is brainless, you should think for him and help him see the bigger picture.
but he didn't do that, did he? so now he have to bear responsibility for his actions, simple as that. don't give me that bullcrap how he didn't deserve this la, etc. he did something wrong, he pays for it.
so no need for you to come in here and try to rally sympathy and get others to say "poor kid, break up ah? come i give you a hug?"
the only support he needs is anger management, and to think about his future la.
but just to keep the record straight:
Compare the issue he's facing and the actions he took to deal with it. How can anyone think that the sentence was too harsh? It's not as if he was forced into a corner and had to defend himself from attacks from other people.
i've definitely heard enough of the "my friend provoke a fight, but he got beaten up instead, so i must avenge him, it doesn't matter whether he is right or wrong, but as a friend, i must avenge him" speech. totally illogical to me.
Originally posted by sbst275:
isn't visiting psychiatrists talking it out in some way of sorts?I know it's not easy, but you've to have e effort to get e ball rolling first
how you know he didn't make the effort then?
Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:how you know he didn't make the effort then?
do you honestly think that he made the effort?
Court sentence is melted out.
Want to appeal or not, up to him.
Case Closed.
There should be no personal attacks/flaming...