RSAF FAQs
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Hi all.. i am a singapore poly student year 1.. i failed in SYFC interview.
Its my dream to become a pilot 1 day.. so another alternative is during army..
I wan to ask whether anyone know the process? what i find out is..
1) apply
2)go compass test
3)go interview
4) medical
5) BMT
6) start pilot training.
Is this the order? and.. where do i apply in the first place? if i pass the interview and medical and compass.. and after BMT i was been sent to pilot training.. isit possible that they will kick u out just like what syfc did ? then what do u do after that.. as to be a pilot u have to sign on... if they kick u out like that.. which means they have to forgo the signing on?? can anyone enlighten me thanks..
How many SAF pilots made it to the end per year?? O.o
what is the percentage of failing ?
Another alternative is to add me to msn prefered a SAF pilot.. because i have tons of questions to ask =)
Msn : [email protected]
Thanks alot.. to whom who read it..
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yes they can kick you out anytime during your training days..
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any ACS work experience?
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sound so impressive here...all our future RSAF pilot....but tell me one thing....how many singapore pilots are combat experienced and flown into life and death situations like dessert storm or patrolling over iraq.........so much talk about the glory of our RSAF.....dont be surprise if one day our forces get sent to iraq and get shot down by 18 year old weilding stinger missles.......
why does singapore not take part in such patrols ,even secretly or participate with the present americans using there planes.....at least we can be proud of being trained under combat experienced pilots rather then electronic simulators.........so sad......
if singapore was to go to war, can you garantee us winning? malaysia has sukov fighter planes my fellow singaporeans which are as compatible as what we have now in our air force.....
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Yupp whatever u say is quite true.. but well it may be someone's dream to become a pilot... Everyone will have a dream...
Like what u say... if someone dream is a doctor.. and they have to face live and death situations too.. just like SARS.. a doctor sacrifice his life just to help to cure the patient. Everyone remembers it.
Same in here.. Pilots are the Elite forces in SAF.. There are definately mistakes which they make... but all these makes them perfect.. as well as.. they are prepared for those that is been implement.. but what happens when they face some situations that they did not face before ? thats where the time where they learn.. So that others do not make the same mistakes too..
=) i am just saying in my point of view...
Everyone will have different views... but just.. dun influence people on the bad aspects of the defences of Singapore..If u live in singapore... u will feel proud and safe as we have enough defence getting prepared for the worst.
=) Thanks
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CADET PILOTThis entry-level position is based in Singapore, and is for candidates who display a strong interest in aviation.REQUIREMENTS
- Singapore Citizen or Singapore Permanent Resident
- GCE ‘A’ level, Polytechnic Diploma or Degree. In addition, you must have obtained a minimum of 5 Credits in the GCE ‘O’ level or its equivalent. These must include English, Mathematics and a Science subject, preferably Physics, taken at one sitting
- At least 1.65 m in height
- Myopia of not more than 500 degrees and astigmatism of not more than 125 degrees, fully correctable with optical aids. For candidates who have undergone corrective eye surgery (e.g. Lasik), the pre-surgical visual acuity should also meet the above requirements.
- Medically fit
TRAININGSuccessful candidates will spend 15 to 17 months on training to acquire an Airline Transport Pilot’s License (ATPL) with Instrument Rating (IR) at Pilot Training Schools in Singapore and overseas. Full board and lodging will be provided. Upon obtaining the flying license, you will undergo further training for 1 to 2 years to become a First Officer.REMUNERATIONS AND SERVICE BENEFITSA monthly allowance will be provided during training. On appointment as a First Officer, you will be paid a basic salary and various allowances. Benefits include medical and dental treatment, and discounted travel.BONDSuccessful candidates will be offered employment with one of the companies in the SIA Group:- Singapore Airlines
- Singapore Airlines Cargo
- SilkAir
APPLICATION
Please note that interviews will be conducted in the location mentioned in the title of the position (e.g., Cadet Pilots Singapore) Click here to access our recruitment system. For your application to be successful, you must complete the assessment portion once you have started to fill it in.
If you experience any technical difficulties or problems during the online application, please send a mail with a description of the problem to [email protected].
We thank all applicants for their interest and regret that only short-listed candidates will be notified. You may also check our recruitment system for the status of your application. -
Thanks for the reply..
but the minimum age for SIA pilot i think its 26 right ?
is it easy to pass ? or the same standards as SAF ?
Do we need to pay any amount of money?
What is the vocation like ?
Thanks alot.. =)
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Originally posted by Dreamer-Pilot:
Yupp whatever u say is quite true.. but well it may be someone's dream to become a pilot... Everyone will have a dream...
Like what u say... if someone dream is a doctor.. and they have to face live and death situations too.. just like SARS.. a doctor sacrifice his life just to help to cure the patient. Everyone remembers it.
Same in here.. Pilots are the Elite forces in SAF.. There are definately mistakes which they make... but all these makes them perfect.. as well as.. they are prepared for those that is been implement.. but what happens when they face some situations that they did not face before ? thats where the time where they learn.. So that others do not make the same mistakes too..
=) i am just saying in my point of view...
Everyone will have different views... but just.. dun influence people on the bad aspects of the defences of Singapore..If u live in singapore... u will feel proud and safe as we have enough defence getting prepared for the worst.
=) Thanks
Pilots are the Elite forces in SAF?
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have u read through the respective online forums for rsaf and sia? it's a good place place to start to get your questions answered :)
rsaf pilot --> http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/308047
sia pilot--> http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far-east/185397-sia-cadet-pilot-all-batches-merged-79.html
since you're still in poly, dont apply for sia as yet, until you're about 24 or older.
and yes air force can kick you out anytime during the training stint. if that happens, you continue serving the rest of your ns term until ORD. If im not wrong, a lot of people do not make it to the final phase.
i applied to rsaf about 8 years ago, and sia early this year. I dint make it to both but maybe im not meant for flying :)
read the online forums, there's a wealth of information that will help you out.
gd luck!
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Recently i have been applying for the senior tech position i have pass the interview .But i fail for the medical i get into Pes B.
Pes B is still not fit to get into senior tech?
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hello ;D
can someone tell me more abt e compass n mapas test?
thks a lot!
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A question to ask: where do you go to apply for the Compass test?
DO they take your BMT score into account when selecting for potential trainees? -
Originally posted by kian1234:
Recently i have been applying for the senior tech position i have pass the interview .But i fail for the medical i get into Pes B.
Pes B is still not fit to get into senior tech?
PES B is like nvm at all =.=" the most critical of all nontheless is still ippt.
for pilots, if they fail due to aeromedical reasons, still got chance to revocate? [to WSO, AEO all that]
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Hello.
I have a question and hope some can help me answer.
I was unsucessful on the first attempt on passing the COMPASS test.
Is there a chance i can have another opportunity to apply again and sit for the COMPASS test?
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Yep. The compass test is valid for either 2 or 2.5 yrs (cant really rmb) so after that amt of time has elapsed u can reapply. I suppose u are a student? Cos if u are serving ns now, then u no chance of signing on during ur service.
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Good News!!!!!!
Yup i am a student.
Thx for the reply...appreciate it.
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hi all. i am a student doing my A'level this year.i have a strong passion in signing on to be a pilot and serving the nation.yes,i do know about the commitment and hardwork while training to be pilot,and being a pilot is not all just about glory.however,it is still my ambition to be a pilot and fly.
i have some very important questions and issues that'll need advice from the experienced people here.please help me out.thanks.
these are information about me. my status was PES A l1 then it got 'demoted' to PES B L1( due to my blood,g6pd). height 181. NAFTA: gold consistently. eyesight: 350 for both eyes (means i cannot qualify for FTR pilot,but i'm aiming for rotary/transport pilot). basically, after reading the basic requirements, i think i can qualify for a pilot in terms of physical aspects.
however,these are my problems thats troubling me deeply now.after going for the medical checkup, i was invited to take the COMPASS test. after taking it,i still do not have any replies from them( been a month or so already). however,my friend who went also, called RSAF up. he was told that if we did not receive a letter of rejection, means we have passed stage 1,so we have to wait for the interview to be arranged.
here's problem no.1- is it true that i passed COMPASS test?
no.2) after passing the interview and medical checkup. i know that i have to go through normal BMT and then OCS. however,i just got my letter of enlistment, it states that i am enlisted to SCDF but no SAF,hence i do not have the chance to go BMT.does this mean that i have no chance to be a pilot or serve RSAF anymore?
no.3) can i apply to transfer to the SAF and go through normal BMT?which may lead me to pilot training?
please share your views on this.it will really be appreciated.i am very concerned about my future now and do not know what to do.
thanks!
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Originally posted by xingg:
hi all. i am a student doing my A'level this year.i have a strong passion in signing on to be a pilot and serving the nation.yes,i do know about the commitment and hardwork while training to be pilot,and being a pilot is not all just about glory.however,it is still my ambition to be a pilot and fly.
i have some very important questions and issues that'll need advice from the experienced people here.please help me out.thanks.
these are information about me. my status was PES A l1 then it got 'demoted' to PES B L1( due to my blood,g6pd). height 181. NAFTA: gold consistently. eyesight: 350 for both eyes (means i cannot qualify for FTR pilot,but i'm aiming for rotary/transport pilot). basically, after reading the basic requirements, i think i can qualify for a pilot in terms of physical aspects.
however,these are my problems thats troubling me deeply now.after going for the medical checkup, i was invited to take the COMPASS test. after taking it,i still do not have any replies from them( been a month or so already). however,my friend who went also, called RSAF up. he was told that if we did not receive a letter of rejection, means we have passed stage 1,so we have to wait for the interview to be arranged.
here's problem no.1- is it true that i passed COMPASS test?
no.2) after passing the interview and medical checkup. i know that i have to go through normal BMT and then OCS. however,i just got my letter of enlistment, it states that i am enlisted to SCDF but no SAF,hence i do not have the chance to go BMT.does this mean that i have no chance to be a pilot or serve RSAF anymore?
no.3) can i apply to transfer to the SAF and go through normal BMT?which may lead me to pilot training?
please share your views on this.it will really be appreciated.i am very concerned about my future now and do not know what to do.
thanks!
If u do sign on like what a pilot is required to do, you will be transferred to SAF
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thanks dkcx.
hmm..i quite confused with your reply.does this mean that if i pass my COMPASS test and thereafter my interview and checkup. then i make known my intentions of signing on with the airforce(to be a pilot),then they will automatically transfer me over?
im afraid it might be too late.my enlistment date is 4 may.if i were to be transferred over to SAF,will my enlistment date change?
thanks!
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Originally posted by xingg:
thanks dkcx.
hmm..i quite confused with your reply.does this mean that if i pass my COMPASS test and thereafter my interview and checkup. then i make known my intentions of signing on with the airforce(to be a pilot),then they will automatically transfer me over?
im afraid it might be too late.my enlistment date is 4 may.if i were to be transferred over to SAF,will my enlistment date change?
thanks!
I am unsure about the compass test thing since i dun belong to airforce so i'll leave it to the others to answer.
If you pass all your tests etc and are eligible to sign on as pilot, they will transfer u over to SAF when u sign on since a SAF regular cannot be serving in the SCDF
4 may is still over 6 months away so should not be too late. Enlistment date will obviously change since SCDF and SAF have different enlistment dates.
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Hey guys, any AOS here?
May I know the difference between the scope of sqn ops, BCP and stuff... What are the working hours like? are they regular
How long wld one get promoted to lcp, cpl n 3sg with what criterias... thanks
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Originally posted by Negger:
Hey guys, any AOS here?
May I know the difference between the scope of sqn ops, BCP and stuff... What are the working hours like? are they regular
How long wld one get promoted to lcp, cpl n 3sg with what criterias... thanks
AOS, otherwise known as Air Operations Specialists, are the specialist equivalents of controllers (who are exclusive officers). They assist the officers in handling the day-to-day controlling and functioning in the squadrons.
For the route of AOS, I will address the NSFs ones first. For an NSF AOS, you will undergo a few weeks of training at AFTC after your BMT. After you finish your course, you will be posted either to a flying squadron as an ops assistant (help to file flight plans, do admin work etc etc), to a flying support squadron (FSS) as an ops assistant (flying support squadrons are basically the squadrons which do the controlling operations at the 4 air bases. the BCP, base command posts, are the nerve centres of each base and they are under the supervision of the individual FSSs) and of cos back to AFTC as a simulator operator (or more affectionately known as pseudo-pilots for those there). I am not too sure if they post NSF AOS to 203 sqn but H sqn is definitely for regulars only. You will graduate as a PTE after your Basic AOS course but you should get your 3SG at least 6 months before you ORD after attending the Intermediate AOS/AOSS course (compared to 3 months before ORD under the prior system).
For regular AOSS (Air Operations System Specialists), they will be posted to one of the 4 FSS, 203 sqn or H sqn. Before they start their AOSS training, they will be promoted to CPL and to 3SG after completion of their AOSS training.
I hope that answers your questions.
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NSF AOS do get posed to 203 squadrons. Now the promotion criterias has been changed, promotion to 3SG is 9 months before ORD. And fighter squadron Ops assistants has the most busy and stressful lives among all. This i can assure you. And btw, im from the 82nd batch of AOS ording in 5 days time..LOL
As for working hours, Squadron Ops Assistant is most of the time a mon-fri basis except on the occasional exercises on weekends, working hours is not fixed, but its not overnight either, you just work during the flying durations. As for BCP and 203 squadron, you're on Shift duties which means weekend and public holidays are counted, and for FSS the tower specialists, its also mostly mon-fri occasional weekend duties and hours not fixed. Actually the only fixed working hours are those simulator pilots in AFS or FSC, purely mon-fri and 830 to 530 i believe +/- 1 hour.
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Thanks alot for your reply teraexa and stellazio...
Why wld fighter squadron ops asst has the most busy and stressful lives? For all bases? or onli some? I tot the most stressful wld be the ATC guys.. haha
looks like simulator pilots hav a more fixed working hrs.
Stellazio, Congras... Back to civilian life soon.. I guess ya in ATC rite... Is it fun there... Which base ya in... If u get to choose again, where wld u go.. How wld u rank the different places...
Teraexa, you are in AOS too?
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Im not sure how to explain it to you, but i can tell you, its definitely difficult in a fighter squadron due to the number of sorties they fly each day and the amount of pilots.. Transport squadrons have it slightly easier, cause there're specialists there to help them too.. And no, im not in FSS, im in a fighter squadron and thats why i can tell you this. If you want a good experience by all means, but its a hard job. On the positive note though, fighter squadrons tend to go for many detachments like thailand and australia and the chances of you going is very high since there're only 2 of you.
Simulator pilots gain nothing useful out of their tour in my opinion. But the life is relax and good. Squadron lifes, you get to meet many high ranking personnel, in my tour of duty, i've met people like chief, dy chief, cmd adoc etc all of whom are generals.. I dont think you'll get that luxury elsewhere.