ICT: The Preferred Welfare
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Which one do you all think gets the better treatment afterall?
From what I see, NSF gets hell lot of sai kang which should be done by the regulars and NSF do not get pardonned easily for small mistakes. NSF often get charged and go to DB for breach of security for example bringing in camera or even being late.
NSMen gets a smaller amount of sai kang but still they can afford to slack and not kana anything big. They often get pardonned easily for the same mistakes as mentioned above. Bringing in a camera to camp mostly results in an imposement of a fine. Missing on RT will result in an imposement of a fine. From what I know both of them are in violation of improper conduct and discipline.
Is it possible that the conviction of NSMen are more lenient because they are civillians with a family or there are certain restrictions to sending an NSMen to DB? I also heard that Undergraduates or a degree holder seldom get sent to DB for mistakes (excluding big offences like theft and AWOL of course)
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does it matter?
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Well it does matter to an extent. I am just questioning that all servicemen should be equal.
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Equality is something we all want to attain, but the reality is that it's different.
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Yes its true. But in any case, right now its good to have NSMen more leniency than NSF. Well you are a NSMen for majority of your life while an NSF for 2 years.
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And so?
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NSF = nothing but a cheap labour. Will you be courteous to your cheap labourer?
NS Men = Something closer to a Guest... but not yet a Guest. Come back to camp once in a blue moon.
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Originally posted by GotNoLife™:
Well it does matter to an extent. I am just questioning that all servicemen should be equal.
when u become nsmen then ask again... -
u never noe, who is that NSmen when he is not recalled. he may be a bigshot somewhere else..esp civilian govt sector...
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Originally posted by GotNoLife™:
Which one do you all think gets the better treatment afterall?
From what I see, NSF gets hell lot of sai kang which should be done by the regulars and NSF do not get pardonned easily for small mistakes. NSF often get charged and go to DB for breach of security for example bringing in camera or even being late.
NSMen gets a smaller amount of sai kang but still they can afford to slack and not kana anything big. They often get pardonned easily for the same mistakes as mentioned above. Bringing in a camera to camp mostly results in an imposement of a fine. Missing on RT will result in an imposement of a fine. From what I know both of them are in violation of improper conduct and discipline.
Is it possible that the conviction of NSMen are more lenient because they are civillians with a family or there are certain restrictions to sending an NSMen to DB? I also heard that Undergraduates or a degree holder seldom get sent to DB for mistakes (excluding big offences like theft and AWOL of course)
Come on la.. NS men come back just like for holiday only... The most 2 weeks they will go back liao. What do u expect them to do? Those sai kang need strength one ho. NSF inside train for BMT 3 month liao. Damm fit, of cos can do sai kang la.Btw, NS men are yr senior compares NSF. Pls respect them. They go thru the shit of NSF before. Is is their job to slack. I go back don't even bother to greet colonel. He see me with the yellow NS men tack, also don't disturb me...
Charge me also need more than 2 weeks,ok!
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well ... what's the big fuss ? ...
sooner or later, you'd become an NSman, neh ? ...
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Originally posted by CannyOng:
Come on la.. NS men come back just like for holiday only... The most 2 weeks they will go back liao. What do u expect them to do? Those sai kang need strength one ho. NSF inside train for BMT 3 month liao. Damm fit, of cos can do sai kang la.Btw, NS men are yr senior compares NSF. Pls respect them. They go thru the shit of NSF before. Is is their job to slack. I go back don't even bother to greet colonel. He see me with the yellow NS men tack, also don't disturb me...
Charge me also need more than 2 weeks,ok!
x2... well said... -
No big fuss la. You all take it too seriously liao.
Anyway, I NSMan liao. Thank you
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Originally posted by GotNoLife™:
No big fuss la. You all take it too seriously liao.
Anyway, I NSMan liao. Thank you
r u the most hated guy in ur platoon? or u the one who ord liao go fill in lots of cock suggestion tat end up screw up the new batches? -
Originally posted by GotNoLife™:
Well it does matter to an extent. I am just questioning that all servicemen should be equal.
That's why the army has the white horse classification system.
So that all servicemen are treated equally.
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Originally posted by charlize:
That's why the army has the white horse classification system.
So that all servicemen are treated equally.
the white horse classification was set up to ensure that NO special treatment is accorded to high level civil servent/army personnel's son.
to ensure that NO special treatment is given, they are identified and made known to all the trainers so that they will NOT treat them special.
yes, that is the truth. and yes, that idea is damn dumb,
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Originally posted by skythewood:
the white horse classification was set up to ensure that NO special treatment is accorded to high level civil servent/army personnel's son.
to ensure that NO special treatment is given, they are identified and made known to all the trainers so that they will NOT treat them special.
yes, that is the truth. and yes, that idea is damn dumb,
Somebody was paid for coming up with that idea.
Maybe he genuinely believed in it.
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NSF gets such treatment is because they are going under the training phase... this 2 years... you cannot run... you have to suffer. Understand?? SUCK THUMB!!!!
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it is like comparing the feeling of getting poked by a cactus or a cucumber. yes, cucumber is smoother but overall, u still get poked!
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Maybe you should post your thread to Mindef instead =D
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maybe he wants NSFs to get NSmen treatment
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ICT should cut short to 2 years
1st year : 2 days training
2nd year: 1/2 day training + 1/2 day ROD celebration
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Originally posted by thoreldan:
ICT should cut short to 2 years
1st year : 2 days training
2nd year: 1/2 day training + 1/2 day ROD celebration
Are you running for the Defence Minister post?You have my vote.
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Originally posted by Spartans:
Are you running for the Defence Minister post?You have my vote.
Thank you!
I think I can a lot of supporters too!
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i'll be the first one to kill TS if his wish gets through...what getting NSmen to have same kinda treatment as NSF...
