Changes to a Man after NS ?
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This is just my personal opinion from my personal experiences. Men, i mean boys doing NS in the army became self-absorbed people.
Experience 1: Very good friend of mine, well not any more. Initial as NR. He was someone who listens when you are talking and responsible. After joining NS, he became very self-absorbed. Always talking abt himself. Being proud is good, but he's more arrogant. In any situation, there would always be something about him that he would share. And more, he became quite irresponssible. Mind you, he's an MOPA. Yet, he is very irresponsible, never return calls and smses, never pass official letters that he is supposed to pass. He became a Jerk! Likes to put people down.
Experince 2: A friend. Initial FM, he listens to people and always have a two way conversation. Now, he only talks about himself. Likes to put people down.
Experience 3: Another friend. Initial SK. Same case, always talks about himself.
From my experiences, these boys are more self absorbed than before after they join NS. Will they ever grow up?
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Originally posted by huzane89:
This is just my personal opinion from my personal experiences. Men, i mean boys doing NS in the army became self-absorbed people.
Experience 1: Very good friend of mine, well not any more. Initial as NR. He was someone who listens when you are talking and responsible. After joining NS, he became very self-absorbed. Always talking abt himself. Being proud is good, but he's more arrogant. In any situation, there would always be something about him that he would share. And more, he became quite irresponssible. Mind you, he's an MOPA. Yet, he is very irresponsible, never return calls and smses, never pass official letters that he is supposed to pass. He became a Jerk! Likes to put people down.
Experince 2: A friend. Initial FM, he listens to people and always have a two way conversation. Now, he only talks about himself. Likes to put people down.
Experience 3: Another friend. Initial SK. Same case, always talks about himself.
From my experiences, these boys are more self absorbed than before after they join NS. Will they ever grow up?
Men grew up during NS... but got brainwashed...
due to the organisational behaviour process, men tend to change their characters n personalities... -
TRUE!!
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Tsk.
Boys will always be boys.
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men in ns are hot lor!
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Originally posted by huzane89:
This is just my personal opinion from my personal experiences. Men, i mean boys doing NS in the army became self-absorbed people.
Experience 1: Very good friend of mine, well not any more. Initial as NR. He was someone who listens when you are talking and responsible. After joining NS, he became very self-absorbed. Always talking abt himself. Being proud is good, but he's more arrogant. In any situation, there would always be something about him that he would share. And more, he became quite irresponssible. Mind you, he's an MOPA. Yet, he is very irresponsible, never return calls and smses, never pass official letters that he is supposed to pass. He became a Jerk! Likes to put people down.
Experince 2: A friend. Initial FM, he listens to people and always have a two way conversation. Now, he only talks about himself. Likes to put people down.
Experience 3: Another friend. Initial SK. Same case, always talks about himself.
From my experiences, these boys are more self absorbed than before after they join NS. Will they ever grow up?
A lot of my friends say boys who went thru' ns are more matured?
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hhmmm..... as kids get older, it is not the whole world shrinking, but the kid getting bigger.
when you find all your friends to be problematic, there are similarly 2 options. All of them are the problem, or you are the problem.
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Originally posted by dahliamorie:
men in ns are hot lor!
thank you thank you xD -
Originally posted by huzane89:
This is just my personal opinion from my personal experiences. Men, i mean boys doing NS in the army became self-absorbed people.
Experience 1: Very good friend of mine, well not any more. Initial as NR. He was someone who listens when you are talking and responsible. After joining NS, he became very self-absorbed. Always talking abt himself. Being proud is good, but he's more arrogant. In any situation, there would always be something about him that he would share. And more, he became quite irresponssible. Mind you, he's an MOPA. Yet, he is very irresponsible, never return calls and smses, never pass official letters that he is supposed to pass. He became a Jerk! Likes to put people down.
Experince 2: A friend. Initial FM, he listens to people and always have a two way conversation. Now, he only talks about himself. Likes to put people down.
Experience 3: Another friend. Initial SK. Same case, always talks about himself.
From my experiences, these boys are more self absorbed than before after they join NS. Will they ever grow up?
quite true, cos they find that being too nice will just be taken advantage off
some also become more vulgar, or even pick up bad habits like smoking
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me had the same problem , In NS, yr bad side start to come out..
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Originally posted by rafTiger:
quite true, cos they find that being too nice will just be taken advantage off
some also become more vulgar, or even pick up bad habits like smoking
haha vulgar confirm one..u talk to anyone also hear vulgrities, of course will la lol...k la but not say cant resist de la...like smoking like that...i already haf alot of frens askin me to smoke=x lol -
I know someone who cried on the 1st week of enlistment because he's not exposed to so much vulgaities.......
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but for me, dont need NS o turn bad, alreaady bad during school time..just that in NS, become even more bad ass
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It would be unwise to assume that all NSFs do a 360 deg. about turn in their character.. for one that becomes a vulgarity spewing machine, another becomes a more responsible chap who knows that no one will be there to cover his six all the time..
Perhaps your friends are just letting themselves become the people around them, and not stand up for themselves?
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180 deg turn
nah i dun agree TS should one stick sink whole boat
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Its survive or be 'eaten' in NS. You cant count on much people to cover your six.
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Originally posted by darkhour:
haha vulgar confirm one..u talk to anyone also hear vulgrities, of course will la lol...k la but not say cant resist de la...like smoking like that...i already haf alot of frens askin me to smoke=x lolSmoking can.. Then next time can mix around more easily.
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Blame the heavy indoctrination process where boys are exposed to situations that are difficult or tough in nature and forced to complete them by all means neccesary. Exposed to people who are very assertive and very confident in their behavior and they are the leaders and commanders that train/lead us. With continous training they are able to endure and overcome these difficult times.
Good for self-confidence and leadership matters etc. But some do overdo it once they leave the force. Some use the NS experience as a motivation where nothing is impossible or "i've been through worse, what the hell does this compare to" when dealing with certain things in the civilian world.
But i still think there is more tougher things in life than NS.
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As a current NSF, all I cay say is the range of NSFs out there are varying. There's no point attempting to draw a correlation between NS and behavioural changes that may occur due to other factors, not only due to NS alone.
No, I am not defending NS, but it's downright unfair to sweepingly generalise the entire population based on a few examples. Just put it this way, you wouldn't want people to label Singapore as a nation of robbers if he/she is just unforunate enough to be robbed twice.
There are various types of NSFs out there. Those who never grow up, those who remain bitchy, those who just wayang, those who relac-jack, those who happy-go-lucky, those who siam arrows, those who let their not-very-high ranks go to their head, those who know how to take care of their subordinates and colleagues, those who do anything to climb etc etc.
A chinese saying goes, a single type of rice can produce 100 types of people. I believe NS is no different.
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Originally posted by teraexa:
As a current NSF, all I cay say is the range of NSFs out there are varying. There's no point attempting to draw a correlation between NS and behavioural changes that may occur due to other factors, not only due to NS alone.
No, I am not defending NS, but it's downright unfair to sweepingly generalise the entire population based on a few examples. Just put it this way, you wouldn't want people to label Singapore as a nation of robbers if he/she is just unforunate enough to be robbed twice.
There are various types of NSFs out there. Those who never grow up, those who remain bitchy, those who just wayang, those who relac-jack, those who happy-go-lucky, those who siam arrows, those who let their not-very-high ranks go to their head, those who know how to take care of their subordinates and colleagues, those who do anything to climb etc etc.
A chinese saying goes, a single type of rice can produce 100 types of people. I believe NS is no different.
politically correct answer xD....anyways, its more of a matter of how easy a person is to hold on to his own beliefs n principles or how easy a person gets swayed by opinions n behaviours of others. humans naturally need each other n influence each other as we r social beings. whether we r strong believers in ourselves, or followers to other's lead.
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Surely you've met guys who have not changed for the worse after going through NS. Why judge men based on just three experiences alone?
It may be that those guy whom you know are self-absorbed right from the start. Going through NS just brings out the best (in this case, the worst) out of them.
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Changes can be both good and bad. I have seen guys who were previously the "guai" types took up bad habits such as smoking, excessive swearing,hardcore wayanging after go through NS. On the other hand, changes can be beneficial as well, as we might become more mature, more apt at handling soclai day to day relationships after entering NS. I mean, surely you have met outstanding people in army right? Hopefully their good points can rub off on you. The best is to take in the good things you have learned in NS and resist the bad then can "grow up".
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i believe NS is full of good and bad people... this applies to life also... everywhere is full of good and bad people... it really depends on how u handle such people... in NS, you can see some ppl keng like mad, while some suffer due to ppl kenging... some people love to take MC whenever there is a major event or function... i believe NS does not bring one to maturity but it brings out one's true character... till now, i still resisting those bad influence in army! argh...
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Originally posted by LazerLordz:
It would be unwise to assume that all NSFs do a 360 deg. about turn in their character.. for one that becomes a vulgarity spewing machine, another becomes a more responsible chap who knows that no one will be there to cover his six all the time..
Perhaps your friends are just letting themselves become the people around them, and not stand up for themselves?
Do a 360 deg. about turn?
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train train train
inside how to behave like kid
come out also cfm matured