is it possible to be promoted after completeing the trainee course as a pes A/B personal even if i oot in bmt b4 that?
Originally posted by Zeg geis:is it possible to be promoted after completeing the trainee course as a pes A/B personal even if i oot in bmt b4 that?
Yes
Originally posted by Zeg geis:is it possible to be promoted after completeing the trainee course as a pes A/B personal even if i oot in bmt b4 that?
The important question is "Have you went for and completed a BMT recourse after your OOT?"
Based on current promotion criteria,no promotion is allowed until you have completed a BMT...unless you downgraded to PES E.
Even if you completed your trainee course but have not recourse bmt,you will still remain a recruit.Once you completed your recourse,you will jump rank REC->LCP/above.
Also if you are PES A/B by then,you still need to pass IPPT b4 you can go CPL and above.
Originally posted by baikachuchu:
The important question is "Have you went for and completed a BMT recourse after your OOT?"Based on current promotion criteria,no promotion is allowed until you have completed a BMT...unless you downgraded to PES E.
Even if you completed your trainee course but have not recourse bmt,you will still remain a recruit.Once you completed your recourse,you will jump rank REC->LCP/above.
Also if you are PES A/B by then,you still need to pass IPPT b4 you can go CPL and above.
Got such a change meh? Most people won't recourse immediately after OOT esp if they were sent to unit so they cannot be stuck as a REC for that long what.
Under a new directive, one above PES E must complete BMT before they can up their rank, if not, yes, they will be stuck as a REC until they ord..
Originally posted by coldzero:Under a new directive, one above PES E must complete BMT before they can up their rank, if not, yes, they will be stuck as a REC until they ord..
Thats lame. Theres so many people that don't go for bmt that quickly due to the scheduling etc etc. I wonder how many RECs there will be now in the army since OOT is something that always happens to a decent number of BMT recruits.
yep.. but after they recourse (which they'll definitely get it unless they're pes E, just a matter of time), they will jump rank to LCP and above.. The previous directive for promotion was according to the months of ns served, that's why you can see 3SGs and CPLs during BMT recourse in the past and not now..
And i guess that's the reason you see how many RECs in the service side like drivers, storeman, clerks and technician, at least for my camp..
thanks for the answers,guess i jus suck thumb n slack away in my current vocation first.
I recommend TS not to "fail" his recourse BMT FFI when seeing the MO.
Besides the increase in rank and allowance that you will get after your recourse,I'm sure that you do not want to see your rank still REC on your ORD cert/testimonial.When filling up job application forms,they will tend to ask your NS rank too.THAT IS NOT IMPORTANT but it will help avoid some awkward questions from your employer.
Even if you dun complete course, you will still be promoted.
Originally posted by caleb_chiang:Even if you dun complete course, you will still be promoted.
That is not possible during his NSF time if he does not complete a recourse and if the S1 branch actually stick to the rules.
If he still has not recourse bmt by the time he ord,then he will have to wait till he reservist then can get promoted.
i will defintely recourse my bmt but i do not wish to do that now,i like my current vocation so maybe near the end of my ord,i will go back for the recourse.
Originally posted by Zeg geis:i will defintely recourse my bmt but i do not wish to do that now,i like my current vocation so maybe near the end of my ord,i will go back for the recourse
No recourse = no promotion? You want to be REC throughout your NS period? Anyway even you go for your recourse, you'll be very likely to be in the same vocation anyway.
Originally posted by tarutaru:No recourse = no promotion? You want to be REC throughout your NS period? Anyway even you go for your recourse, you'll be very likely to be in the same vocation anyway.
If hes PES A/B and recourse, there is a decent chance he will change vocation cos after BMT he can go to a combat vocation and no longer being a clerk etc which is where many OOT people end up.
i m now a trainee technician at OETI,i am worried that after i recourse,i will not be able to post back to there anymore.=(
Originally posted by Zeg geis:i m now a trainee technician at OETI,i am worried that after i recourse,i will not be able to post back to there anymore.=(
Most likely you be allowed to complete your course before you go to recourse BMT.
I was a REC for close to 1 and a half years. After recourse, a swift promotion to CPL. If you have gone for spec course prior your recourse, you will be promoted to 3SG.
Originally posted by Zeg geis:i m now a trainee technician at OETI,i am worried that after i recourse,i will not be able to post back to there anymore.=(
Revocation might occur depending CPC etc but if you recourse after you completed your OETI course and posted to unit, you can try to ask your unit to request for you to return to them. Unless they are overstaff, normally they can try to retain you though nothing is 100% of course.
Originally posted by grandmaster89:I was a REC for close to 1 and a half years. After recourse, a swift promotion to CPL. If you have gone for spec course prior your recourse, you will be promoted to 3SG.
Imagine a REC commander trying to command his men who are LCP, CPL etc, i really cannot imagine how stupid that sight will be.
Are they going to greet you "Good Morning REC ___"...
Originally posted by dkcx:Imagine a REC commander trying to command his men who are LCP, CPL etc, i really cannot imagine how stupid that sight will be.
Are they going to greet you "Good Morning REC ___"...
Imagine, if the rule didn't exist, it would be funny to have 3SG undergoing BMT recourse HAHA.
Originally posted by grandmaster89:
Imagine, if the rule didn't exist, it would be funny to have 3SG undergoing BMT recourse HAHA.
During my time,I saw a section of "recourse recruits" consisting of 3 3SGs ,the rest CPLs....the real recruits like us had to march back from cookhouse while they could stroll all the way back to company line or even take a detour to canteen,lol!
The COS see them also cannot do anything,only the PCs/regulars got power.
Originally posted by grandmaster89:
Imagine, if the rule didn't exist, it would be funny to have 3SG undergoing BMT recourse HAHA.
Its common, i've seen it before as well. Its more funny when you have to greet someone of lower rank than you than see 3SGs recourse and i would say most 3SGs would love recourse cos its so slack.
hey grandmaster,what was your pes status when u go back for recourse?and izzit in a recourse batch?and does anyone know the chances of recoursing in a recourse batch?
Originally posted by Zeg geis:hey grandmaster,what was your pes status when u go back for recourse?and izzit in a recourse batch?and does anyone know the chances of recoursing in a recourse batch?
His should likely be a recourse batch since its so late and he would surely return back to the same vocation since there is no point in revocating him by then.
Most of the time recourse within the 1st year has a chance of revocation.
Recoursing in a recourse? You mean even recourse you can also fail ah. If you can fail recourse, i would say you really cmi liao cos recourse is damn slack compared to actual bmt.