Pre-Enlist: No Hospital Specialist Letter = No Talk for PES

• Xf-nh

  1 Jan 10, 21:33

  Hi I'm a 17 year old and I'll probably be enlisting in NS quite soon. I THINK I have obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) and I really cannot camp due to the many rituals I adopt. I'm wondering if I will have some exemptions from BMT. I'm really afraid that the officers won't let me do my 'rituals'. I am not diagnosed. Some help please? Thanks!

• dkcx

  1 Jan 10, 21:36

  Originally posted by Xf-nh:

  Hi I'm a 17 year old and I'll probably be enlisting in NS quite soon. I THINK I have obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) and I really cannot camp due to the many rituals I adopt. I'm wondering if I will have some exemptions from BMT. I'm really afraid that the officers won't let me do my 'rituals'. I am not diagnosed. Some help please? Thanks!

  If you have OCD, you will have to visit a psychiatrist and have it diagnosed. Your PES and stuff will be determined base on how the psychiatrist considers your condition and your suitability for NS. However i do not believe OCD is valid for a complete excuse from NS.

  It might be better for you to just try reduce or get over your OCD since its still a disorder and not the norm of the general population.

• Xf-nh

  1 Jan 10, 21:51

  Problem is, I don't really need full exemptions. Just some special adjustments for me to continue living without worry.

• dkcx

  1 Jan 10, 22:06

  Originally posted by Xf-nh:

  Problem is, I don't really need full exemptions. Just some special adjustments for me to continue living without worry.

  It is unlikely SAF will make special provisions for you so its better for you to work in your problem before you enlist than hope for SAF to make special adjustments for you.

• gutripper

  1 Jan 10, 22:23

  I know of person in a friend's unit who had OCD. He was given menial tasks such as clerical and admin work. Depending on the extent of your OCD I guess.

• dkcx

  1 Jan 10, 22:25

  Originally posted by gutripper:

  I know of person in a friend's unit who had OCD. He was given menial tasks such as clerical and admin work. Depending on the extent of your OCD I guess.

  Most people with psychological disorders tend to get admin work n such but still he cannot let his condition affect the work he does.

• unclebutcher

  1 Jan 10, 22:34

  go see a psy first and get a memo. then can talk.
• SayHelloandBye

  1 Jan 10, 23:16

  I think it's best if you just try to adapt. I suffer from OCD as well, got through BMT just fine. I don't think I'm too popular in Tekong though =/
• SGporkz

  2 Jan 10, 01:14

  oo.. ts want 8-5 right

   

• Xf-nh

  2 Jan 10, 16:59

  Originally posted by SGporkz:

  oo.. ts want 8-5 right

   

  Nope. Its just I can't stand not doing whatever I need to do. Like washing hands and feet and wiping my personal belongings.

• dkcx

  3 Jan 10, 00:22

  Originally posted by Xf-nh:

  Nope. Its just I can't stand not doing whatever I need to do. Like washing hands and feet and wiping my personal belongings.

  In army, you and all your things will get dirty very easily especially in field camp etc. You won't even have water to wash anything.

• Fatum

  3 Jan 10, 01:06

  Originally posted by Xf-nh:

  Hi I'm a 17 year old and I'll probably be enlisting in NS quite soon. I THINK I have obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) and I really cannot camp due to the many rituals I adopt. I'm wondering if I will have some exemptions from BMT. I'm really afraid that the officers won't let me do my 'rituals'. I am not diagnosed. Some help please? Thanks!

  don't worry !!!! OCD is a great asset in the army ! You'll go far !

  you'll soon develop new rituals like "obsessively polishing your boots", "obsessively sweeping the company line", "obsessively cleaning the toilet" etc ..... your unit mates would love you for your quirks .......

  of course, if you are still afraid of serving, then there's always ..... 

  

• kwyjibo

  10 Jan 10, 21:50

  Hey,

  I have OCD too and I was given a PES E1L9.

  To be honest, I wouldn't describe my condition as particularly debilitating so I wasn't expecting a PES E... but that's not my prerogative.

   

   

   

• Junyang700

  10 Jan 10, 23:38

  Too many OCDs in Singapore. Probably PES E.

• gd4u

  11 Jan 10, 00:10

  TS, please get your OCD confirmed by a psychiatrist before saying. If you really have OCD a suitable PES status will be given to you. Should you need any other special arrangements, you could speak to your future superior(s),  accomodating to your OCD is not an entitlement, but more of a privillege.
  
  Having said that, manlingering is a chargable offence even at pre-enlistment. OCD is a mental illness, and by that respect, treat other mental patients with respect, and not as a ticket to something else.

• Xf-nh

  12 Jan 10, 00:14

  Originally posted by gd4u:

  TS, please get your OCD confirmed by a psychiatrist before saying. If you really have OCD a suitable PES status will be given to you. Should you need any other special arrangements, you could speak to your future superior(s),  accomodating to your OCD is not an entitlement, but more of a privillege.
  
  Having said that, manlingering is a chargable offence even at pre-enlistment. OCD is a mental illness, and by that respect, treat other mental patients with respect, and not as a ticket to something else.

  Will those superiors really be willing to allow me special accomodations?

• fudgester

  12 Jan 10, 15:38

  Originally posted by Xf-nh:

  Will those superiors really be willing to allow me special accomodations?

  As gd4u has said.... get your condition properly diagnosed by a proper psychiatrist first.

  Don't talk about 'special accommodations' if you don't even have a specialist's letter testifying to your condition. 

• noahnoah

  12 Jan 10, 23:20

  Originally posted by Xf-nh:

  Will those superiors really be willing to allow me special accomodations?

  
  No spec medical letter

  everything talk also weight nothing

  to the MO