PES FAQs
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Medical Classification Centre
Location and Operating Hours
Our Address
MCC is located at Level 1, CMPB Podium.
Central Manpower Base (CMPB)
3 Depot Road
Singapore 109680
Our Operating Hours
Mondays - Fridays: 8:00 am to 5:00 pm
Saturdays, Sundays and Public Holidays: ClosedPre-enlistment Medical Screening
Prior to enlistment, all pre-enlistees have to undergo a thorough medical examination at the Medical Classification Centre (MCC) within the Central Manpower Base (CMPB). This examination allows the medical fitness of a pre-enlistee to be assessed and this subsequently determines his Physical Employment Status (PES).
Medical Screening Appointment Preparations
As part of the e-documentation, you are also required to select your preferred medical appointment date as well as to complete the medical questionnaire (e7F). You will need to go through the medical questionnaire form with your parents / guardian so that useful medical information about you is captured.
To ensure that your medical experience with us is pleasant and that the overall screening process is not unnecessarily delayed, we have compiled a checklist for you:
- Print out a copy of the medical questionnaire (e7F) and ensure that your parent / guardian and you sign on the printed document. Bring the e7F on the day of your medical appointment at MCC.
- Avoid wearing contact lenses. Wear your spectacles as you will be required to undergo eye checks.
- Wear loose fitting clothes (e.g. shorts) to facilitate physical examination.
- Bring along any medical documents to support your existing medical condition (if any).
- Health Booklet (if any).
Clinical Examinations
The medical screening process takes on average 150 minutes to complete and there is a series of test that you will have to undertake.
Registration Station
At MCC Registration Counter, you will be required to submit your e7F. As a form of verification, you will be asked for your NRIC or any form of photo identification (e.g. driving license, school pass.)
Clinical Laboratory Station
At the Clinical Laboratory Station blood samples are drawn for G6PD, haemoglobin and blood group typing tests. Simple urine tests to detect the presence of blood, protein and glucose (sugar) will also be carried out for you at the Station.
Dental Station
At the Dental Station, the Dental Officer will carry out an oral examination and Dental Charting. A Dental X-ray or Orthopantomography (OPG) will also be conducted.
X- ray Station
A Chest x-ray (CXR) screening will also be conducted for you at the X-ray Station for the radiological assessment of your heart and lungs.
Eye Station
At the Eye Station routine eye tests are carried out to detect eye abnormalities and test your visual and refractive error.
ENT (Ear, Nose & Throat) Station
At ENT Station an audio test or audiogram will be conducted to detect hearing abnormalities.
Station 6 (Clinical Examination Station)
Station 6 is the Clinical Examination Station, you will undergo height, weight and blood pressure measurements. An electrocardiogram (ECG) will also be done for you in the ECG Room.
After completion of all the clinical investigations and measurements, you will then be examined and evaluated by a Medical officer.
Station 6 Counter (Post Clinical Screening)
Once you have completed the above series of medical screening, you will be medically classified with a PES grading.
Station 6 Counter will also issue instructions for the pre-enlistee if the pre-enlistee is to return to MCC for any further medical investigations.Source: www.NS.sg
Please note that pre-enlistees can only be assigned to an enlistment intake after being certified medically fit for a PES for enlistment at the pre-enlistment medical screening.
CMPB Medical Classification Centre (MCC) hotline: 6373 1340
MRS: www.ns.sg/nsp/web/esvcs/mindef/medical/referral-system
What is Medical Referral Management System (MRS)?
The Medical Referral Management System or MRS is designed for the pre-enlistee to perform some of the medical services prior to the completion of his medical investigation. In particular, the pre-enlistee can update the outcome of his medical appointment, apply for a Letter Of Identity (LOI), be reminded of any outstanding actions that have to be undertaken by the pre-enlistee and find out his latest PES status.
What is a Letter Of Identity (LOI)?
It is a form that is issued to the pre-enlistee for every appointment. Upon presentation to the hospital, it would waive payment up to the point of diagnosis. It is to note that any appointment made for purposes of treatment would NOT be paid for and shall be borne by the pre-enlistee.
What is a Further Reporting Order (FRO)?
The pre-enlistee is to note that under the Enlistment Act, specified in the FRO, he is obliged to attend all appointment as required. Under no circumstances is he to default any appointment.
The FRO also serves as a reminder to the pre-enlistee the details to his medical appointment and specify the documents that are issued to him or important instructions that he is to take note of.
What is a Progress Report on Patient's Medical Status (PR)?
This form when completed by the attending doctor at the hospital and accurately transcribed onto the electronic version on MRS would facilitate MCC in deciding if the pre-enlistee has completed his hospital medical appointments.I have been referred to the hospital after being seen by the Medical Officers at Medical Classification Centre. What are the things that I have to take note of?
You are expected to be punctual and attend your appointment. The Letter Of Identity (LOI) is to be presented at the point of registration and Referral Letter must be submitted to the attending doctor. The doctor is to complete the Progress Report on Patient's Medical Status (PR) and hand it back to you after every consultation.
Please refer to the Further Reporting Order (FRO) for a list of other documents that you have to bring to the hospital.
I have attended my hospital medical appointment. What do I have to do next?
You are to log onto you MRS account and validate the LOI (confirm the attendance of your medical appointment). You can do so by either clicking the "Validate LOI" button on the menu bar or the row specifying the appointment that you are going to confirm.
What am I to do with the Progress Report on Patient's Medical Status (PR)?
For every follow-up appointment, you would be issued with a Progress Report through MRS. You are to bring with you to the hospital appointment and get the attending doctor to complete. You are to translate this onto the PR that is available in MRS before you can apply for a new LOI (if necessary).
I have another hospital appointment to attend. Can I apply for a new Letter Of Identity (LOI)?
Yes you can apply provided the appointment is only for investigations up to the point of diagnosis. The LOI is not applicable for any appointment that allows you to seek treatment.
To apply for a LOI, you must first complete the Progress Report on Patient's Medical Status.
MCC reserves the right not to pay for any of your appointment should it be found to be for other causes other than for investigative purposes.
What do I have to bring when I attend my hospital appointment?
After you have successfully applied for your LOI, the system would generate a list of documents for you to print. Of these, you are to bring with you the Letter Of Identity (LOI), and Progress Report on Patient's Medical Status (PR).
The LOI is to be presented to the hospital at the point of registration. The PR is to be completed by the attending doctor and handed back to you.
I have completed all hospital appointments and MRS informed me that MCC would request for medical report from the (hospital) doctor and review my medical status. I am to login in 2 months time to check on my final PES status. Why does it take so long?
MCC would need to request for the medical report on your behalf from the hospital. This would take some time, including time for MCC medical officer to review the report and determine if the investigations done would affect the final outcome of your condition and PES status.
I have been referred by MCC to the hospital for medical investigation(s). Who would be paying for the hospital expenses?
The initial referral would be made by MCC. You are required to update the outcome of your appointment and apply for a new LOI through MRS. This LOI, when produced at the hospital, would waive all medical expenses for you up to the point of diagnosis. The hospitals would then bill MCC directly for payment of your appointment.
MCC reserved the right not to pay / reimburse you for your medical expenses if you are found to have not updated your status via MRS or referral is not made for the conditions that you have undergone investigations/ treatment.
This would be considered on a case-by-case basis.
What should I do if I have developed new medical conditions after I have been assigned a PES status?
You can request to see the medical officers at MCC. To facilitate them in further understanding your medical condition, you are to produce any medical report that would provide further insight to your condition.What are the types of potential medical appointments that I may have to go?
There are 2 types of medical appointments that are available to you.
Internal medical appointment refers to those that you have to MCC to complete your investigations.
External medical appointment refers to those that you have to complete your investigations at a location other than MCC. They are usually done at the (restructured) hospitals or Military Medical Institute (MMI).MCC Services
MCC Eye Clinic
The Specialist Eye Clinic at MCC provides medical assessment for eye conditions. An appointment will be made for you during the screening procedure should it be deemed necessary. Please bring all documents regarding any known eye condition for your appointment.
MCC ENT (Ear, Nose and Throat) Clinic)
The Specialist ENT Clinic provides pre-enlistment assessment for ENT complaints. You will be informed if there is a need for you to attend this clinic.
MCC Specialist Psychiatric Clinic
The Specialist Psychiatric Clinic at MCC aims to assess the suitability of a pre-enlistee with regard to psychiatric conditions already known or discovered during the screening process. It is essential to have one parent accompany you should an appointment be made for you and it would greatly shorten the delay to enlistment if you bring all your pre-existing psychiatric medical records for your appointment.
MCC Specialist Orthopedic Clinic
The specialist orthopedic clinic has the purpose of grading a pre-enlistee with regard to any orthopedic problems. A medical officer will be in attendance together with a senior doctor from one of the restructured hospitals. Here we will grade you based on your orthopedic problems. Please bring all medical reports and X-ray films for this visit.
Medical Review
A pre-enlistee with any abnormalities noted during the medical screening will be required to undergo medical review. This can take several forms as appropriately decided by the Medical Officer.
Referral to SAF Military Medicine Institute (MMI) / Government / Restructured Hospitals
The pre-enlistee may be referred to SAF MMI, government / restructured hospitals for further investigations. If the referral is required, he will be given a set of documents to bring along as well as information regarding the date, time and venue. -
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You are strongly advised to read what I posted once, twice and thrice, and later thereafter over and over again to read how to get the referral letter to hospital specialist.
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Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
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FYI, PES is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PULHHEEMS.
1) Go to Public Hospital / Private Specialist.Note: You will be classified as a subsidised patient if your first visit is via:
- Referral letter from a Government Restructured Hospital under subsidised status, A&E, Polyclinic or SAF, without specifying a specialist by name.
- Discharge from inpatient class B2 or C without
specifying a specialist by
name.
2) Consult specialist, and do whatever medical check ups required. E.g. physical exam, blood test, x-ray, CT scan, MRI scan.3) Specialist gave a finalised clinical diagnosis.
4) Get the specialist to write you a memo which is to be given to SAF MO. Those who can and are willing to spend some more money can get him/her to write you a specialist report, which is more precise and detailed.
Note: For not to waste time and money, please be more direct yet humble. Request the specialist to write about reviewing of PES and medical board / anything specific such as any excuses to your conditions.5) Book an medical review appointment using the eHealth module @ www.ns.sg (for NSman Reservists).
Just go down to your camp medical centre (for NSFs).
Call CMPB @ 6373 1340 to request another PES review (for Pre-Enlistees after CMPB Checkup).6) Make a trip down to the respective unit camp medical centre. Give the MO whatever supporting documents you have in hand. E.g. Specialist memo/report (most usually the case and highly recommended), x-ray films, CT/MRI scan report, blood investigation lab report... etc.
7) MO will decide whether you are deemed eligible for KIV downgrade, according to the criterias set in the "PES Bible" directive. E.g. Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc.
8) If deemed so, you will sign an acknowledgement notice of Medical Board, whereby your case statement is prepared for review discussion at the monthly medical board meet (usually at the Formation/Division HQ) with another NSF CPT MO and the Chairman (SAF Regular Medical Doctor of MAJOR rank or above). Your Medical Board result will be post mailed to you by your respective NSHRC (Formation NS Hub).
Time and time again, the questions for Medical Review (Downgrade) is repetitive. Therefore, this serves as a general SOP for Medical Board.
Extract from www.mindef.gov.sg/nsmen:
NSmen must update their NS HRCs if they should develop any new medical condition or if their existing medical condition has worsened which might affect their ability to perform their duties during ICT. Arrangements will then be made for them to attend a medical review at the SAF medical centre to assess their fitness for NS.
The NSmen MUST bring along all investigation results and memorandums from his external physician/specialist during the medical review. Depending on the outcome of the medical review, the NSman may be given a medical certificate to defer him from ICT, be scheduled for a medical board to downgrade him if his medical condition is significant, or referred to a restructured hospital for further investigation. In the event that the medical officer determines that the NSman’s medical condition will not affect his ability to participate in the ICT, he will allow the NSman to attend the ICT. -
Hi, I've been diagnosed with degenerated disc at the T11/12 disc. Submitted the specialist memo and awaiting for medical boarding. May I know how long will the medical boarding take and what PES status will I likely get?
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It is within PES C range.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
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Originally posted by eac:
It is within PES C range.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446Thank you for your reply EAC, but will there be a chance where the medical board rejects it and refuses to let me downgrade to PES C? I'm currently PES B1L1 and being vocated as a LAW Gunner. Or is my diagnosis a definite downgrade?
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As advised, your case statement is prepared, accordingly to the criteria set in the "PES Bible" directive, i.e. Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc. for review discussion at the monthly medical board meet (usually at the Formation/Division HQ) with another NSF CPT MO and the Chairman (SAF Regular Medical Doctor of MAJOR rank or above). Your Medical Board result will be post mailed to you by your respective NSHRC (Formation NS Hub).
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I am a NSman, I just went for medical review this afternoon. MO gave me MC that excuse me from IPPT/RT/RMJ for 12 weeks while waiting for the medical board result. Do i need to do anything about the piece of MC he gave me? Like submitting it to my NS unit? Or will it be automated?
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Inform your Platoon Commander and show him the MC. Then wait for further instruction from him...probably you get light duties.
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I am not NSF, i am a NSman.
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In that case report to your reservist unit. The orderly room and see the chief clerk there..see what she or he say..maybe MPO will speak to you too.
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I already went to see MO, this excuse is given by MO.
I went in for medical review because i had pneumothorax in Nov'13. MO told me i will get E9L9 for it after submitting the memo from NUH. He gave me this letter to excuse me from IPPT/RT/RMJ for 12 weeks.
This letter is generated by SAF system, do i need to go back camp again to submit it? i dont want waste leave just to go back camp submit stuffs like this.
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If I am you, I will report to my unit and see the chief clerk or mpo to be sure that they know about it and you know how sometimes in the SAF things like this may go wrong..
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Take a look at this.... http://www.ns.sg/owc_discussions/thread.jspa?messageID=216653
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New/Existing Medical Conditions
NSmen must update their unit S1 / NSHRC if they develop any new chronic medical condition or if there has been a worsening of an existing medical condition which may affect their ability to perform their duties during ICT. This will facilitate arranging of a medical review at the SAF medical centre.
The NSman MUST bring along all investigation results and memorandums from his external physician/specialist for this medical review. At the medical review, the NSman may be given a medical certificate to defer ICT, be scheduled for a medical board for downgrading if the condition is significant, or may be referred to a restructured hospital for further investigation. However, if the medical officer determines that the condition will not affect his ability to participate in ICT, he will allow the NSman to proceed. -
does C9L3 need to go for ranging?
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Physical Employment Status (PES)
PES A (L1) = Fit for all
combat vocations. (Full BMT)
PES B (L1) = Fit for
most combat vocations. (Full BMT)All PES A and B1 will be followed by the L-Code (Land Deployability Code) as follows:
L1 – Fit for all field duties including frontline duty.
Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations and be involved in direct combat.
PES Bp = Fit
for obese Full BMT (applicable to obese recruits).============================================================
PES B2 (formerly called
C1) - Fit for
some combat vocations. Required to take IPPT but can be excused up
to 2 static stations in IPPT.PES B2 grading will be followed by the L-Code (Land Depolyability Code) as follows:
L1 – Fit for all field duties including frontline duty. Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations and be involved in direct combat.
L2 – Fit for most field duties. Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations of Brigade HQ level units and above, and/or Combat Support vocations in frontline units of Battalion and above, and/or Combat Service Support vocations at all echelons.
L3 – Able to bear firearms and operate in a field environment. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above, and/or Combat Service Support Vocations at all echelons.
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PES C = Fit for combat service
support vocations. (Modified BMT)
Further subdivided into:
PES C2 - Do not have to take IPPT for NSF/ NSman, except regulars who are required to take Alternative Aerobic Fitness Test (AAFT).
PES C9 - All servicemen not required to take IPPT.PES C grading will be followed by L-Code (Land Deployability Code) as follows:
L2 – Fit for most field duties. Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations of Brigade HQ level units and above, and/or Combat Support vocations in frontline units of Battalion and above, and/or Combat Service Support vocations at all echelons.
L3 – Able to bear firearms and operate in a field environment. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above, and/or Combat Service Support vocations at all echelons.
L9 – Able to bear firearms and protect themselves, others and property. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations in Main Support Area, and/or Combat Service Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above.
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PES D = Temporary unfit for
grading and pending further review.============================================================
PES E = Fit for administrative
duties only.
PES E1 - Able to participate in simple observance parades and LIFE activites.
PES E9 - Unfit for any forms of physical activities; field duties/exercises.
PES E grading will be followed by the L-Code (Land Deployment Code) as follows:
L9 – Able to bear firearms and protect themselves, others and property. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations in Main Support Area, and/or Combat Service Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above.
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I have a question ... I am worried I would not be able to get pes b and above as I REALLY want to go to command sku namely OCS.. But I have asthma in the pass though the last attack was when I was 6 .. Further more in the past I had a bout of pneumonia when I was 15. So are my lungs compromised so I would be given pes C ?
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Please declare all conditions properly, honestly and truthfully.
Because if you don't declare, should anything happen to you in camp, you cannot claim any insurance from MINDEF/ SAF. Furthermore, SAF will not take any responsibility if you don't declare.
Safety First.
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Dear MO,
Hi i got some questions that has been bothering me badly. I am PES A.
I've seen private psychiatrist and prescribe me a couple of medication to curb my anxiety/major depressive disorders.
It has affected me 3-4weeks.
Camp MO know about my condition due to endorsement of my MCs. (few weeks of MC)
Q1) Without memo but with genuine conditions, will he report it to medical board and by any chance get a downpes from there?
Q2) MO refered me to see SAF PSY, but was denied
Q3) I managed to get a SAF PSY appointment anyway, and i got my medical report to submit.
What do you think the chances of downpes is? Perm/temp PES? What pes? How long will it take for the verdict? How long will it take to revocate?
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1. As the saying goes, "No specialist memo, no talk. Got specialist memo, got talk."
2. It does not meant anything.
3. It is within PES C to E range. It is up to Medical Board Chairman to decide.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
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As usual, please refer to this guideline:
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Hi eac,
I just went for my medical review today, my pes status currently is 6months temp pes C9L3. Previously when I went to cmpb to do my pre-enlistment checkup I had a specialist letter stating that I'm known to suffer from bronchial asthma and the condition is under control and I'm under
1.Seretide (250) Acuhaler
2. Nasonex
3. Singulair 10mg
So the mo made me do a asthma survey form, the one asking about the condition and adds up the total points I got and I scored a point of 22. The mo said I should be fit and made me sign a form to refer my case to medical board. I told him I'm still under those medication as mentioned and I'm still seeing my specialist. So what I'm wondering is what will happen next, my pes status remains extended as temp, my pes status gets perm or my pes gets upgraded?
Thank you for your help doc