For BMT-related matters, please refer to:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/432038
For PES-related matters, please refer to:
FYI, PES is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PULHHEEMS.
1) Go to Public Hospital / Private Specialist.
Note: You will be classified as a subsidised patient if your first visit is via:
2) Consult specialist, and
do whatever medical check ups required. E.g. physical
exam, blood test, x-ray, CT scan, MRI scan.
3) Specialist gave a finalised clinical diagnosis.
4) Get the specialist to write you a
memo which is to be given to
SAF MO. Those who can and are willing to spend some
more money can get him/her to write you a specialist report,
which is more precise and detailed.
Note: For not to
waste time and money, please be more direct yet humble. Request the
specialist to write about reviewing of PES and medical
board / anything specific such as any
excuses to your conditions.
5) Book an
medical review appointment using the eHealth module @ www.ns.sg (for NSman
Reservists).
Just go down to your camp medical centre
(for NSFs).
Call CMPB @ 6373 1340 to request another
PES review (for Pre-Enlistees after CMPB
Checkup).
6) Make a trip down to the respective unit camp medical centre. Give the MO whatever supporting documents you have in hand. E.g. Specialist memo/report (most usually the case and highly recommended), x-ray films, CT/MRI scan report, blood investigation lab report... etc.
7) MO will decide whether you are deemed eligible for KIV downgrade, according to the criterias set in the "PES Bible" directive. E.g. Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc.
8) If deemed so, you will sign an acknowledgement notice of Medical Board, whereby your case statement is prepared for review discussion at the monthly medical board meet (usually at the Formation/Division HQ) with another NSF CPT MO and the Chairman (SAF Regular Medical Doctor of MAJOR rank or above). Your Medical Board result will be post mailed to you by your respective NSHRC (Formation NS Hub).
Time and time again, the questions for Medical Review (Downgrade) is repetitive. Therefore, this serves as a general SOP for Medical Board.
Extract from www.mindef.gov.sg/nsmen:
NSmen must update their NS HRCs if they should
develop any new medical condition or if their existing medical
condition has worsened which might affect their ability to perform
their duties during ICT. Arrangements will then be made for them to
attend a medical review at the SAF medical centre to assess their
fitness for NS.
The NSmen MUST bring along all investigation results and
memorandums from his external physician/specialist during the
medical review. Depending on the outcome of the medical review, the
NSman may be given a medical certificate to defer him from ICT, be
scheduled for a medical board to downgrade him if his medical
condition is significant, or referred to a restructured hospital
for further investigation. In the event that the medical officer
determines that the NSman’s medical condition will not affect his
ability to participate in the ICT, he will allow the NSman to
attend the ICT.
Thank you!!
Anyway, based on your experience, what Pes would i probably be downgraded to if i report my gastric problem? Do you have any idea?
And is a report from GP recognised?
It can be anywhere from PES B to B2 to C2 range.
GPs' note is so-so okay only, so best is public hospital specialist memo (most usually the case and highly recommended).
As always, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446
Thank you. :)
Just a final question...
Is there any combat activities in Pes C?
PES C are posted to Combat Support and Combat Service Support vocations.
Can you elaborate what does that mean?
You can DIY research on Google.com and Wikipedia.org for these vocations.
Google is now your best friend.
Hi,
Recently got back diagnosis from the SGH specialist which was referred to me by CMPB. He told me that I had Exercise Induced Asthma after I did all the tests administered by them & wrote that down on the Blue Progress Report (& nothing else) which I snail-mailed to CMPB along with the photocopied of the Appt Card.
Anyone know which PES am I likely to get?
Thanks
For Exercise-Induced Asthma, it is within PES B to B2 range.
Originally posted by eac:
For Exercise-Induced Asthma, it is within PES B to B2 range.
Thanks for the reply. Was wondering as my friend had the same condition & was given PES C.
Well, it depends on the scale of Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc.
As always, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446
Originally posted by eac:
Well, it depends on the scale of Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc.
As always, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446
I see, but as I had yet to enlist, No 5 & onwards don't apply to me right?
You may wish to call the 24/7 NS Hotline at 1800-3676767.
hey guys what if i have partial hearing loss in one of my ears? is it possible not to down my PES by not declaring during the medical checkup at CMPB?
and also will having a degree of about 700 plus affect PES?
those who have experience can come forth to answer! much appreciated :)
Better to declare honestly and truthfully.
If don't declare and should anything happen to you, you cannot claim any insurance, monetary compensation and benefits when MINDEF/ SAF check you didn't declare beforehand.
Plus, should you suffer from further hearing loss at the rifle range, hand grenade throw, any other loud noise events, or should you get posted to a loud noise vocation/ operating environment, you cannot claim any in-camp training service injury to seek compensation from the SAF.
NS is just 2 years, but such further worsening/ aggravation of health conditions are permanent for life. Better to be safe than sorry.
As always, please refer to this guideline:
alright thabks for your help! but just curious for rifle range and grenade throwing i thought ear plugs will be issued? and most likely what PES will i be downgraded to?
Hi im new here. I have a distil fibular fracture and am due for a specialist appointment 1 month later. I just completed BMT and am currently waiting for my vocation. After this 1 month is it possible to request for a permanent down pes from the specialist?
As always, please refer to this guideline:
Although ear plugs are issued, the noise cancellation is only effective, suitable and bearable for people with normal hearing.
As mentioned, should you further damage your ears irreversibly, then you cannot blame MINDEF/ SAF when you need to buy hearing aids for permanent loss of hearing and seek service injury compensation from it due to MINDEF/ SAF will definitely fault you if you don't declare honestly and truthfully since it is your own fault for your negligence.
You will be within PES C range, with permanent excuse loud noise environment.
Originally posted by eac:
It's within PES E range, but temporary for 1 year or so (renewable/ extension) because it's treatable with antithyroid oral medication, carbimazole.
Hi
in 2013 you shared with me information on Grave disease which carries PES E.
i was given e9l9 for my reservist duration but always as temp.
this round i am due for another round of review. would like to check with you on the pes status of grave disease while i am still on carbimazole. but still going for quartertly blood tests to adjust medications. and what if my blood test shows within the normal range but i am still on the medication on a permanent but adjustable type?
By default, then the PES will most likely to be renewed PES E Temp again.
Though you can try to talk with the camp MO to see how on whether you can be put to PES E Perm or not.
Originally posted by eac:
By default, then the PES will most likely to be renewed PES E Temp again.Though you can try to talk with the camp MO to see how on whether you can be put to PES E Perm or not.
i see. thanks alot for your advise.