PES FAQs
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Hi
Recently I developed heel pain on both my feet during my training and was diagnosed with bilateral pes planus, which I wasn't aware of until I visited my ortho, and severe bilateral plantar fasciitis.
May I know whether I will get a PES review for this injury?
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FYI, PES is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PULHHEEMS.
1) Go to Public Hospital / Private Specialist.Note: You will be classified as a subsidised patient if your first visit is via:
- Referral letter from a Government Restructured Hospital under subsidised status, A&E, Polyclinic or SAF, without specifying a specialist by name.
- Discharge from inpatient class B2 or C without specifying a specialist by name.
2) Consult specialist, and do whatever medical check ups required. E.g. physical exam, blood test, x-ray, CT scan, MRI scan.3) Specialist gave a finalised clinical diagnosis.
4) Get the specialist to write you a memo which is to be given to SAF MO. Those who can and are willing to spend some more money can get him/her to write you a specialist report, which is more precise and detailed.
Note: For not to waste time and money, please be more direct yet humble. Request the specialist to write aboutreviewing of PES and medical board / anything specific such as any excuses to your conditions.5) Book an medical review appointment using theeHealth module @ www.ns.sg (for NSman Reservists).
Just go down to your camp medical centre (for NSFs).
Call CMPB @ 6373 1340 to request another PES review(for Pre-Enlistees after CMPB Checkup).6) Make a trip down to the respective unit camp medical centre. Give the MO whatever supporting documents you have in hand. E.g. Specialist memo/report (most usually the case and highly recommended), x-ray films, CT/MRI scan report, blood investigation lab report... etc.
7) MO will decide whether you are deemed eligible for KIV downgrade, according to the criterias set in the "PES Bible" directive. E.g. Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc.
8) If deemed so, you will sign an acknowledgement notice of Medical Board, whereby your case statement is prepared for review discussion at the monthly medical board meet (usually at the Formation/Division HQ) with another NSF CPT MO and the Chairman (SAF Regular Medical Doctor of MAJOR rank or above). Your Medical Board result will be post mailed to you by your respective NSHRC (Formation NS Hub).
Time and time again, the questions for Medical Review (Downgrade) is repetitive. Therefore, this serves as a general SOP for Medical Board.
Extract from www.mindef.gov.sg/nsmen:
NSmen must update their NS HRCs if they should develop any new medical condition or if their existing medical condition has worsened which might affect their ability to perform their duties during ICT. Arrangements will then be made for them to attend a medical review at the SAF medical centre to assess their fitness for NS.
The NSmen MUST bring along all investigation results and memorandums from his external physician/specialist during the medical review. Depending on the outcome of the medical review, the NSman may be given a medical certificate to defer him from ICT, be scheduled for a medical board to downgrade him if his medical condition is significant, or referred to a restructured hospital for further investigation. In the event that the medical officer determines that the NSman’s medical condition will not affect his ability to participate in the ICT, he will allow the NSman to attend the ICT. -
I have gotten a specialist letter saying "please take note when considering PES status and posting". But in general, will I get downgraded?
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In general, it is a yes.
Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446 -
Hello!
I've just received my enlistment to enlist in 4th Nov. My napfa was taken in Sept last year, which would have lapsed the 1-year validity.
May i ask since i have already received the letter to enlist in Nov, instead of Sept, does it mean I do not need to retake npfa?
Thanks in advance
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Hello,
I POP-ed one week ago and have just been posted to 3 Guards as an infantry trooper.
However I have also been diagnosed with Osgood Schlatter's disease during BMT. The MO didn't down PES me because he didn't want me to recourse. I failed my FFI as well, which meant that I couldn't go to command school.
The condition acts up when I do a lot of vigorous activities (like route march etc) and I cannot squat or kneel without feeling a sharp sensation of pain. 3 Guards training is apparently very tough too. What should I do? Visit the MO on my first day?
Thanks !
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Also just to add on, I went to SGH previously and was referred to a specialist from there. The doctor at SGH diagnosed me with the disease but the specialist later on didn't give me a Memo or anything. I didn't know that I had to request for it.
Would I be able to down PES? Really afraid that my knee will not be able to withstand all the heli-rappling and things that Guards do. Any advice?
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Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
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Please call the 24/7 NS Hotline at 1800-3676767.
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Hi people,
Just want to see if anyone have the same situation. Was referred to KTPH by CMPB due to some problems that I had. And everytime I go for a re-check up the doctor always tells me that the blood test this and that is still the same and no improvement and she re-scheduled another appointment for me in a few months time. I just want to check what if I keep "failing" the check up by the doctor and show no imporvement? Will she keep extending the check up?
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You should and must ask the doctors over there at the hospitals.
How do we know what kind of health or body or blood problems you have when we don't even have any access to your medical records of the hospitals?
Check blood can check all sorts of 10,001 health problems...
So please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to ask a customer service officer.
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For BMT-related matters, please refer to:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/432038
For PES-related matters, please refer to:
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Hi guys,
I recently received a pes status changed letter from D to B1L1. The weird thing is I'm sure that I should get BP instead of B1L1 since my BMI is 31 which has already exceed the BMI "27>" which they name as overweight people. Happens to anybody before? Or it is just a temporary pes change?
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You can call the 24/7 NS Hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Hi eac got a quick qns. Was down pes E9L9 for a year and is expiring soon. I thought the normal norms is that they will ask me for a medical review with MO and I gonna go see my heart specialist again for letter . However I got a saf letter stating they r doing a medical board for my case for a perm status without me needing to attend. Isit due to my age category as i m turning 35 this year that they med board me without the normal review?
and with that what's the odds of my perm status to be in which pes ?
i got my current temp status due to hypertension and HBP.
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To be rest assured, you can reconfirm with the medical centre directly. If you don't know the direct telephone number of the camp's medical centre, please call the MINDEF operator at 6760 8828 to ask for it.
In general, for clear cut cases, Medical Board is conducted without the NSmen attendance. Only for complicated cases, then the NSman is to be present.
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Tks eac, normally for high BP and cholestrol level with high chances of getting heart related issues, it warrant wat type of perm pes?
If really gotten a pes that my company can't accept what will happen? They post me out of my company but within battalion level? Do I go to Mindef reserve list or I carry on with my ICT doing another vocation?
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It is anywhere within PES C to E range.
Please seek NS Unit's S1 Manpower Branch for assistance on post out/ revocation to HQ Battalion/ HQ Brigade/ HQ Division/ HQ Formation with the NS HRC via the NS Call Centre's 24/7 hotline at 1800-3676767.
However, please first focus more on healthy lifestyle changes as the utmost priority.
I strongly urge you to eat oats (instant/ quick-cook).
3 big scoops (Chinese soup spoon) into a bowl.
Just add boiling water to 70% full.
Cover the bowl with a plate and wait 10 to 15 minutes.
Add water to 100% full, and consume at lukewarm.
Fast and easy-to-make breakfast.
Never ever skip breakfast.
Start off the day by having a heavy breakfast.
Have lunch at 70% full.
Have dinner at 30% full. If still hungry, eat oats.
If possible, drink Pu'er/ oolong tea (without sugar) daily.1st step in a simple change to diet and lifestyle.
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I recently OOCed from command school due to a relapse of my persistent skin problem, was diagnosed by my specialist who wrote a memo that i have severe recurrent P folliculitis. Returned to MO boarded me for medical board review for a perm downpes from A to B1L1 with a perm excuse outfield. Anyone knows where I might end up?
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Revocation/ Post Out matters are none of medical centre business. Medical centre can only recommends a revocation/ post out. Please note that all actual manpower matters are all handled by the NS unit's S1 Manpower Branch. Therefore, please personally go to check directly with S1 Manpower Officer/ DyS1 Officer/ Chief Clerk for the official answers.
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Hello, I am 19 years old studying in a polytechnic. I will enlist for NS next year, 2015.
I would like to ask on the CMPB checkup. I have a scar on my arm, but generally I am physically fit, have no known medical conditions. However, I dislocated my left elbow, but still able to move fine as deemed fit by my own standard, and had an operation on it.
Declare honestly and truthfully? What PES?
To be eligible for OCS/ SCS, I read that must be at least JC/ polytechnic level, right?
Also, I am thinking to sign on regular to be RSAF pilot, how? Apply for interview first?
For BMT-related matters, please refer to:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/432038
For PES-related matters, please refer to:
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Hi eac, I'm a NSman with PES status C9L3. Recently got diagnosed with diabetes and high cholesterol, currently taking medication to control it. I've got an overseas ICT later this year and I would like to defer it, is my medical condition enough to get derferment or to get a further down pes?
And if a medical review is needed, do I have to get a specialist memo from hospitals? I came to know of my condition through yearly blood test and is currently seeking treatment from a gp. will these blood test result + gp letter be enough for the medical review?
Thanks
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For overseas ICTs, for all NSmen below PES C, there will be an Overseas FFI medical review scheduled (SAF100 issued) a couple of months before the overseas ICT. So please give the MO a photocopy of all relevant supporting documents there and then.
GPs' note is so-so okay only, so best is public hospital specialist memo (most usually the case and highly recommended).
Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As always, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446However, please first focus more on healthy lifestyle changes as the utmost priority.
I strongly urge you to eat oats (instant/ quick-cook).
3 big scoops (Chinese soup spoon) into a bowl.
Just add boiling water to 70% full.
Cover the bowl with a plate and wait 10 to 15 minutes.
Add water to 100% full, and consume at lukewarm.
Fast and easy-to-make breakfast.
Never ever skip breakfast.
Start off the day by having a heavy breakfast.
Have lunch at 70% full.
Have dinner at 30% full. If still hungry, eat oats.
If possible, drink Pu'er/ oolong tea (without sugar) daily.1st step in a simple change to diet and lifestyle.
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Hi guys,
Recently went for medical checkup, MO referred me to GP doctor for medications to help my poorly controlled asthma. I have to repeat spiro test at cmpb after a month. As for now I'm pes D. I recently received a letter indicating that my cholesterol levels's not within range and that I have to follow up with a GP doctor but the letter did not state that I have to go for a lipid test (cholesterol test). I am acceptable weight and my asthma is well controlled.
Any idea what will be my pes status? I'm sure A is not in the picture, I'm hoping for a B.