PES FAQs

eac

7 Oct 14, 22:09

Permanent PES C2 and below are non-combat-fit personnel, that's why they are exempted from IPPT with immediate effect.

You'll most likely to be revocated as a Security Trooper (Service/ Non-combat) because you'll be transferred from the combat vocations to the combat service support vocations by the NS unit's S1 Manpower Branch. So the combatant allowance will ceased with effective date at the next month's payroll.

eac

7 Oct 14, 22:10

Compensations for Service Injuries

Service injuries are injuries sustained while serving NS.

This also includes injuries sustained when reporting for duty or going home after duty.

You will get free medical treatment for such injuries even after ORD for lifetime.

Remember to first report your injury to your unit MO. Also remember to collect and keep all documents relating to your injury and your treatment. These will help when you submit the injury report and seek claims.

Source: http://iprep.ns.sg

(A) Service Injuries

If you sustained an injury during your NS training, it may be considered as attributable to service only when service is the cause of injury. If you sustained an injury during ICT, you are required to report immediately to your unit’s Medical Officer and unit S1. This is so that your unit can arrange to attend to your injury, and document your injury sustained in your medical docket.

Before MINDEF determines that an injury is attributable to service, you are responsible for bearing all medical expenses. Treatment for your injury must be sought at government or restructured hospitals at your eligible ward and referred to by a government or SAF Medical Officer.

In the case of permanent disablement due to service injury, a medical board will be convened. Eligibility for disability compensation will be based on the degree of residual permanent disability as endorsed by the SAF Medical Board.

If your service injury requires continuous medical or hospitalisation leave beyond your ICT period, you are eligible for a stepped-down compensation as a form of ex-gratia payment. Compensation will be based on your civilian pay or an equivalent regular serviceman’s pay (whichever is higher) if you do not receive any income from your employers. This ex-gratia payment is compensation for your loss of income during this period. Payment will cease when you are no longer on medical/hospitalisation leave or when disability compensation is paid, whichever is earlier.

How does an injured serviceman make a claim for the medical costs incurred for service injury?

The PMC (Personnel Management Centre) will issue all serviceman with the SI (Service Injury) Card if their injuries have been approved as attributable to service by the Pensions / Awards Officer. The serviceman must produce this card to be eligible for fully-subsidised medical treatment at the government / restructured hospitals.

If the SI Card is not produced when seeking treatment, the serviceman will have to pay for all the medical cost first and seek reimbursement via the respective PMCs with the following documents:

a. the original medical bills and payment receipts

b. a memorandum from the attending doctor to prove that the treatment received was for his service injury.

The serviceman is required to notify his PMC immediately when he loses his SI Card. There will be an administrative charge of $15 for each replacement of lost or defaced SI Card. He will need to make the payment via MINDEF Cashier / Internet and submit the receipt to the unit PMC before he will be issued a new SI Card.

While waiting for the SI Card to be issued or replaced, the serviceman may approach the respective PMCs for the issuance of the SI Memo (a temporary identification document) for the fully-subsidised medical treatment.

Source:www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/press_room/faqs.html

eac

7 Oct 14, 22:10

FYI, PES is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PULHHEEMS.

1) Go to Public Hospital / Private Specialist.

Note: You will be classified as a subsidised patient if your first visit is via:

Referral letter from a Government Restructured Hospital under subsidised status, A&E, Polyclinic or SAF, without specifying a specialist by name.
Discharge from inpatient class B2 or C without specifying a specialist by name.

2) Consult specialist, and do whatever medical check ups required. E.g. physical exam, blood test, x-ray, CT scan, MRI scan.

3) Specialist gave a finalised clinical diagnosis.

4) Get the specialist to write you a memo which is to be given to SAF MO. Those who can and are willing to spend some more money can get him/her to write you a specialist report, which is more precise and detailed.

Note: For not to waste time and money, please be more direct yet humble. Request the specialist to write about reviewing of PES and medical board / anything specific such as any excuses to your conditions.

5) Book an medical review appointment using the eHealth module @ www.ns.sg (for NSman Reservists).

Just go down to your camp medical centre (for NSFs).

Call CMPB @ 6373 1340 to request another PES review (for Pre-Enlistees after CMPB Checkup).

6) Make a trip down to the respective unit camp medical centre. Give the MO whatever supporting documents you have in hand. E.g. Specialist memo/report (most usually the case and highly recommended), x-ray films, CT/MRI scan report, blood investigation lab report... etc.

7) MO will decide whether you are deemed eligible for KIV downgrade, according to the criterias set in the "PES Bible" directive. E.g. Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc.

8) If deemed so, you will sign an acknowledgement notice of Medical Board, whereby your case statement is prepared for review discussion at the monthly medical board meet (usually at the Formation/Division HQ) with another NSF CPT MO and the Chairman (SAF Regular Medical Doctor of MAJOR rank or above). Your Medical Board result will be post mailed to you by your respective NSHRC (Formation NS Hub).

Time and time again, the questions for Medical Review (Downgrade) is repetitive. Therefore, this serves as a general SOP for Medical Board.

Extract from www.mindef.gov.sg/nsmen:
It is crucial that you update your NS HRCs if you develop a new medical condition or if an existing medical condition has worsened, which may affect your ICT performance. This is so that arrangements will be made for you to attend a medical review at the SAF medical centre to assess your fitness condition for NS.

You MUST bring along all your investigation results and memorandums from your external physician or specialist during your medical review. You may be given a medical certificate for ICT deferment, be scheduled for a medical board to downgrade you if your medical condition is significant, or be referred to a restructured hospital for further examination depending on the outcome of your medical review.

If your medical condition is deemed suited for ICT participation by the medical officer, you will then be allowed to attend ICT.

eac

7 Oct 14, 22:11

Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.

As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446

Blackops 74

8 Oct 14, 00:39

The NS Allowance will progress as you move up the NS ranks to the max. rank of corporal as an enlistee man.

Security Trooper (Service) usually man comms and station at Guardhouse and sentry instead of prowling (patroling) all around the compound perimeter.

With effective of permanently downgraded to PES C2 and below, you're essentially now a non-combat-fit NSF since there's already no need to take IPPT anymore, so naturally the combatant allowance will ceased payment because you'll be removed from the list of combatant vocations and moved to the list of combat service support vocations at the unit's S1 Manpower branch. Period. Full-stop.

Yes, I've filed a Service Injury report. The process takes months, just wait patiently because it might stretch until you ORD. Meanwhile, within the 2 years of NS, just show the NS 11B card at any public hospitals/ polyclinics are all FOC (free-of-charge).

For further information, please go to http://iprep.ns.sg

eac

8 Oct 14, 10:59

All the relevant information are already on this page as mentioned above.

Please read through carefully and thoroughly.

Ecxwghnk

11 Oct 14, 09:50

It's all dependable on the NS camp and your permanent NS unit.

Seek approval from your Officer Commanding (OC) and S1 Manpower Branch.

There's no use calculating probability using GCE 'A' Level mathematics...

Candyyy

11 Oct 14, 14:12

Please just call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767, please...

Central Manpower Base (CMPB)
3 Depot Road Singapore 109680

Operating hours : Mondays to Fridays 0900 hours to 1700 hours
Closed on Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays.

For any NS official matters, you must contact the NS Call Centre via email at [email protected] or call 1800-3676767. There is no other way out, no way out...

If you have queries regarding your enlistment date or the enlistment schedule, please call 1800-eNSNSNS (1800-367 6767) for assistance.

Candyyy

11 Oct 14, 14:13

How are full-time National Servicemen assigned to the Uniformed Services (SAF/SPF/SCDF)?

The assignment of NSFs to the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF), the Singapore Police Force (SPF) and the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) is based on numerous considerations such as the operational and manpower requirements of the Uniformed Services, as well as, factors such as the educational qualifications and medical fitness.

Source: http://iprep.ns.sg/

If you have queries regarding your enlistment date or the enlistment schedule, please call 1800-eNSNSNS (1800-367 6767) for assistance.

Ecxwghnk

11 Oct 14, 14:45

Prepare for PTP/BMT: http://iprep.ns.sg/

Secrets to Pass IPPT: http://lifestyle.www.ns.sg/features/fitnessxchange

Source: www.ns.sg , www.army.gov.sg , www.mindef.gov.sg

Source:
www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/atozlistings/army/About_BMT.html

Types of Basic Military Training

PES A/B1 BMT
This 9-week programme trains combat-fit recruits in the basic military skills to prepare them for advanced vocational training. The programme includes weapon training with the SAR 21 rifle which will teach recruits technical handling and marksmanship skills; a Battle Inoculation Course that simulates a real battlefield; a Field Camp which develops basic survival skills; progressive training to complete a 24-km route march which builds combat fitness and endurance; and hand grenade training.
For those who fail to achieve the NAPFA test silver award, they are required to undergo an 8-week Physical Training Phase (PTP) prior to the PES A/B1 BMT.

PES BP BMT
As evidence has shown that obese recruits are able to achieve optimum fitness levels and weight loss in about 19 weeks, the new BMT programme for recruits with Body Mass Index (BMI) scores exceeding 27.0 will be 19 weeks. This BMT programme is designed to help obese recruits improve their physical fitness progressively while equipping them with basic soldiering skills and knowledge.

PES B2 BMT
Enlistees who were PES C1 previously underwent a 7-week BMT programme. The new 9-week PES B2 BMT programme will be conducted for recruits who are medically fit for deployment in selected combat and combat support vocations, such as signal operators, combat medics and naval system operators. These recruits will be given a new medical classification of PES B2, in place of the existing PES C1 classification. This is to ensure that the medical classification of our soldiers is consistent with their deployment. The new 9-week programme will include customised physical training, as well as basic combat training to prepare them for their combat and combat support roles.

PES C BMT
The 9-week BMT programme will be conducted for PES C recruits. This programme will include light physical training and vocational training to prepare them for combat service support vocations, such as service medic, and those related to logistics and administration.

PES E BMT
The 4-week BMT programme will be conducted for PES E recruits. This programme will focus on, vocational training as well as National Education, SAF core values, regimentation and discipline to prepare recruits for combat service support vocations.

eac

11 Oct 14, 20:41

Source: http://iprep.ns.sg/

NS BMT Enlistment schedule

Pre-enlistees will be required to complete pre-enlistment procedures and medical screening before they are scheduled for enlistment.

They will be scheduled for enlistment into the respective enlistment intakes based on numerous considerations such as the medical & physical fitness and educational qualifications of the individual, as well as the manpower and operational requirements of the various intakes.

In general, pre-enlistees from the same 'A' level/International Baccalaureate (IB) or polytechnic cohort are enlisted over two intakes due to capacity constraints at the NS training schools. For example, 'A' level/ IB holders who graduate in Nov/Dec are typically enlisted in the Dec and Mar quarterly intakes. Polytechnic diploma holders who graduate in Mar/Apr are typically enlisted in the Jun and Sep quarterly intakes. ITE certificate holders and pre-enlistees with other qualifications are enlisted throughout the year.

Pre-enlistees can only be assigned to an enlistment intake after being certified medically fit for enlistment at the pre-enlistment medical screening. Pre-enlistees will receive Enlistment Notices to notify them of their enlistment date about 2 months before their scheduled enlistment.

Notes:

Pre-enlistees who are graded PES A/B1 and who attained a NAPFA Silver or Gold award in the 12 months before their enlistment date will be enlisted for their 9-week BMT directly. Pre-enlistees with PES A/B1 but who have not attained a NAPFA Silver or Gold award in the 12 months before their enlistment date will be enlisted into an 8-week PTP prior to the commencement of their 9-week BMT.

Enlistment dates are subjected to adjustment, due to operational requirements.

If you have queries regarding your enlistment date or the enlistment schedule, please call 1800-eNSNSNS (1800-367 6767) for assistance.

Source: http://iprep.ns.sg/

Ecxwghnk

12 Oct 14, 00:55

FYI, PES is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PULHHEEMS.

1) Go to Public Hospital / Private Specialist.

Note: You will be classified as a subsidised patient if your first visit is via:

Referral letter from a Government Restructured Hospital under subsidised status, A&E, Polyclinic or SAF, without specifying a specialist by name.
Discharge from inpatient class B2 or C without specifying a specialist by name.

2) Consult specialist, and do whatever medical check ups required. E.g. physical exam, blood test, x-ray, CT scan, MRI scan.

3) Specialist gave a finalised clinical diagnosis.

4) Get the specialist to write you a memo which is to be given to SAF MO. Those who can and are willing to spend some more money can get him/her to write you a specialist report, which is more precise and detailed.

Note: For not to waste time and money, please be more direct yet humble. Request the specialist to write about reviewing of PES and medical board / anything specific such as any excuses to your conditions.

5) Book an medical review appointment using the eHealth module @ www.ns.sg (for NSman Reservists).

Just go down to your camp medical centre (for NSFs).

Call CMPB @ 6373 1340 to request another PES review (for Pre-Enlistees after CMPB Checkup).

6) Make a trip down to the respective unit camp medical centre. Give the MO whatever supporting documents you have in hand. E.g. Specialist memo/report (most usually the case and highly recommended), x-ray films, CT/MRI scan report, blood investigation lab report... etc.

7) MO will decide whether you are deemed eligible for KIV downgrade, according to the criterias set in the "PES Bible" directive. E.g. Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc.

8) If deemed so, you will sign an acknowledgement notice of Medical Board, whereby your case statement is prepared for review discussion at the monthly medical board meet (usually at the Formation/Division HQ) with another NSF CPT MO and the Chairman (SAF Regular Medical Doctor of MAJOR rank or above). Your Medical Board result will be post mailed to you by your respective NSHRC (Formation NS Hub).

Time and time again, the questions for Medical Review (Downgrade) is repetitive. Therefore, this serves as a general SOP for Medical Board.

Extract from www.mindef.gov.sg/nsmen:
It is crucial that you update your NS HRCs if you develop a new medical condition or if an existing medical condition has worsened, which may affect your ICT performance. This is so that arrangements will be made for you to attend a medical review at the SAF medical centre to assess your fitness condition for NS.

You MUST bring along all your investigation results and memorandums from your external physician or specialist during your medical review. You may be given a medical certificate for ICT deferment, be scheduled for a medical board to downgrade you if your medical condition is significant, or be referred to a restructured hospital for further examination depending on the outcome of your medical review.

If your medical condition is deemed suited for ICT participation by the medical officer, you will then be allowed to attend ICT.

off_service

13 Oct 14, 13:17

Originally posted by eac:

Permanent PES C2 and below are non-combat-fit personnel, that's why they are exempted from IPPT with immediate effect.

You'll most likely to be revocated as a Security Trooper (Service/ Non-combat) because you'll be transferred from the combat vocations to the combat service support vocations by the NS unit's S1 Manpower Branch. So the combatant allowance will ceased with effective date at the next month's payroll.

Hi eac,

Does this apply to RSAF RPs as well? I was downgraded to C9L3 on my 3rd ICT cycle but am still in the combat RP nominal roll.

eac

13 Oct 14, 13:55

Then please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer to link up your NS unit to do the administrative paperwork.

Metagen

15 Oct 14, 10:12

Hi everyone. Would like to seek advice here.

Im 20 this year, finishing NS soon. Having a minor hearing lost on one side of my ear( high pitch ringing once in a while. Maybe 2 twice a day?). Hep B carrier ( dont really know why hep B carriers can be combat fit. ).

On long term medication for my facial and body acne.

Have requested a memo from my skin specialist for the past few appts. As i have cystic breakouts after wearing my lndividual load bearring vest (iLBV). And for all 3 appts. She has given me a 2 week excuse from iLBV and any extension of excuse will be up to my MO to decide. The cysts are painful to touch. And will burst when force is applied. (Unable to squeeze out anyway as it is too painful. ).

I dont want to continue scarring myself with all these acnes and there must be something that can be done?? Im quite lost frankly.

eac

15 Oct 14, 20:23

off_service

17 Oct 14, 14:59

Originally posted by eac:

Then please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer to link up your NS unit to do the administrative paperwork.

Just for info, my unit NSHRC called and I'm very surprised by their replies. According to them, C9L3 is still a combat fit status as we are still able to carry arms and thus "can do whatever we are told".

If that's their interpretation, according to the PES classification, doesn't it meant that even PES E are combat fit since they can hold arms too?

Their explanation, in my opinion, defeats the purpose of PES classification, especially if able to bear arms translates into combat fitness.

eac

17 Oct 14, 16:32

L-Code (Land Deployability Code) as follows:

L1 – Fit for all field duties including frontline duty. Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations and be involved in direct combat.

L2 – Fit for most field duties. Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations of Brigade HQ level units and above, and/or Combat Support vocations in frontline units of Battalion and above, and/or Combat Service Support vocations at all echelons.

L3 – Able to bear firearms and operate in a field environment. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above, and/or Combat Service Support vocations at all echelons.

L9 – Able to bear firearms and protect themselves, others and property. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations in Main Support Area, and/or Combat Service Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above.

off_service

17 Oct 14, 17:03

Originally posted by eac:

L-Code (Land Deployability Code) as follows:

L1 – Fit for all field duties including frontline duty. Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations and be involved in direct combat.

L2 – Fit for most field duties. Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations of Brigade HQ level units and above, and/or Combat Support vocations in frontline units of Battalion and above, and/or Combat Service Support vocations at all echelons.

L3 – Able to bear firearms and operate in a field environment. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above, and/or Combat Service Support vocations at all echelons.

L9 – Able to bear firearms and protect themselves, others and property. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations in Main Support Area, and/or Combat Service Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above.

Is defence exercise (not as support role) in SAF terms considered "direct combat"?

Also are security troopers considered combat or combat support?

eac

17 Oct 14, 20:21

Should be combat support vocation.

Since you're already a reservist, just voice out that you're PES C9L3 and only will deploy to support rear areas during in-camp.

For example, such as guard duties, stand firm that you won't do prowling, only at the guard house office, camp gate and stationary sentry posts.

Trumpetskeltal

28 Oct 14, 19:32

FYI, PES is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PULHHEEMS.

1) Go to Public Hospital / Private Specialist.

Note: You will be classified as a subsidised patient if your first visit is via:

Referral letter from a Government Restructured Hospital under subsidised status, A&E, Polyclinic or SAF, without specifying a specialist by name.
Discharge from inpatient class B2 or C without specifying a specialist by name.

2) Consult specialist, and do whatever medical check ups required. E.g. physical exam, blood test, x-ray, CT scan, MRI scan.

3) Specialist gave a finalised clinical diagnosis.

4) Get the specialist to write you a memo which is to be given to SAF MO. Those who can and are willing to spend some more money can get him/her to write you a specialist report, which is more precise and detailed.

Note: For not to waste time and money, please be more direct yet humble. Request the specialist to write about reviewing of PES and medical board / anything specific such as any excuses to your conditions.

5) Book an medical review appointment using the eHealth module @ www.ns.sg (for NSman Reservists).

Just go down to your camp medical centre (for NSFs).

Call CMPB @ 6373 1340 to request another PES review (for Pre-Enlistees after CMPB Checkup).

6) Make a trip down to the respective unit camp medical centre. Give the MO whatever supporting documents you have in hand. E.g. Specialist memo/report (most usually the case and highly recommended), x-ray films, CT/MRI scan report, blood investigation lab report... etc.

7) MO will decide whether you are deemed eligible for KIV downgrade, according to the criterias set in the "PES Bible" directive. E.g. Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc.

8) If deemed so, you will sign an acknowledgement notice of Medical Board, whereby your case statement is prepared for review discussion at the monthly medical board meet (usually at the Formation/Division HQ) with another NSF CPT MO and the Chairman (SAF Regular Medical Doctor of MAJOR rank or above). Your Medical Board result will be post mailed to you by your respective NSHRC (Formation NS Hub).

Time and time again, the questions for Medical Review (Downgrade) is repetitive. Therefore, this serves as a general SOP for Medical Board.

Extract from www.mindef.gov.sg/nsmen:
It is crucial that you update your NS HRCs if you develop a new medical condition or if an existing medical condition has worsened, which may affect your ICT performance. This is so that arrangements will be made for you to attend a medical review at the SAF medical centre to assess your fitness condition for NS.

You MUST bring along all your investigation results and memorandums from your external physician or specialist during your medical review. You may be given a medical certificate for ICT deferment, be scheduled for a medical board to downgrade you if your medical condition is significant, or be referred to a restructured hospital for further examination depending on the outcome of your medical review.

If your medical condition is deemed suited for ICT participation by the medical officer, you will then be allowed to attend ICT.

eac

28 Oct 14, 19:59

Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.

As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446

KenPlus

30 Oct 14, 22:22

Hello, I'm already Permanent PES E9L9. No need take IPPT already.

How come I received a call from my NS unit to ask me go for a FFI for NSmen who are 35 years and above?

eac

30 Oct 14, 22:40

Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.

eac

30 Oct 14, 22:43

Source: mindef.gov.sg/nsmen

SAF Health Screening Programme

With effect from 30 May 2011, “IPPT-FFI” was incorporated into the revised SAF Health Screening Programme, which is the compulsory medical examination for all IPPT-eligible NSmen 35 years of age and above. There is no need to do a separate "IPPT-FFI" if you have already completed the SAF Health Screening Programme for that year.The SAF Health Screening Programme review should be initiated by your NS unit administrator once your IPPT window, i.e. your birthday window is open.

If you are IPPT-eligible, 35 years of age and above, you are required to complete the SAF Health Screening Programme every year before your IPPT attempt. The aim of this medical screening is to detect any medical conditions which may make you unsuitable for the IPPT.Note that if you have not completed your SAF Health Screening Programme requirements for the year, you will not be allowed to take your IPPT. You will be issued with a certificate once you have completed your SAF Health Screening Programme requirements. The certificate is valid for 30 days until your next birthday; i.e. if you are 35 years old, this certificate will be valid until (and including) the 30th day after your 36th birthday.

Applicability
The annual IPPT is applicable to all PES A, B/B1, B2/C1 NSmen and DXO with NS liability, till age 45 and 40 years old for Officers and WOSPEC respectively. The NSman's IPPT annual requirement commences on his birthday immediately after his NSF Operational Ready Date (ORD) and ends when he is posted to MINDEF Reserves (MR), or medically downgraded to PES C2 and below.