FYI, PES is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PULHHEEMS.
1) Go to Public Hospital / Private Specialist.
Note: You will be classified as a subsidised patient if your first visit is via:
2) Consult specialist, and do whatever medical check ups required. E.g. physical exam, blood test, x-ray, CT scan, MRI scan.
3) Specialist gave a finalised clinical diagnosis.
4) Get the specialist to write you a memo which is to be given to SAF MO. Those who can and are willing to spend some more money can get him/her to write you a specialist report, which is more precise and detailed.
Note: For not to waste time and money, please be more direct yet humble. Request the specialist to write about reviewing of PES and medical board / anything specific such as any excuses to your conditions.
5) Book an medical review appointment using the eHealth module @ www.ns.sg (for NSman Reservists).
Just go down to your camp medical centre (for NSFs).
Call CMPB @ 6373 1340 to request another PES review (for Pre-Enlistees after CMPB Checkup).
6) Make a trip down to the respective unit camp medical centre. Give the MO whatever supporting documents you have in hand. E.g. Specialist memo/report (most usually the case and highly recommended), x-ray films, CT/MRI scan report, blood investigation lab report... etc.
7) MO will decide whether you are deemed eligible for KIV downgrade, according to the criterias set in the "PES Bible" directive. E.g. Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc.
8) If deemed so, you will sign an acknowledgement notice of Medical Board, whereby your case statement is prepared for review discussion at the monthly medical board meet (usually at the Formation/Division HQ) with another NSF CPT MO and the Chairman (SAF Regular Medical Doctor of MAJOR rank or above). Your Medical Board result will be post mailed to you by your respective NSHRC (Formation NS Hub).
Time and time again, the questions for Medical Review (Downgrade) is repetitive. Therefore, this serves as a general SOP for Medical Board.
Extract from www.mindef.gov.sg/nsmen:
NSmen must update their NS HRCs if they should develop any new medical condition or if their existing medical condition has worsened which might affect their ability to perform their duties during ICT. Arrangements will then be made for them to attend a medical review at the SAF medical centre to assess their fitness for NS.
The NSmen MUST bring along all investigation results and memorandums from his external physician/specialist during the medical review. Depending on the outcome of the medical review, the NSman may be given a medical certificate to defer him from ICT, be scheduled for a medical board to downgrade him if his medical condition is significant, or referred to a restructured hospital for further investigation. In the event that the medical officer determines that the NSman’s medical condition will not affect his ability to participate in the ICT, he will allow the NSman to attend the ICT.
Hi guys! I'm currently being downgraded from pes b1 to pes e9l9 temp due to my recent leg surgery. I'm currently quite confuse about what I can do and what I can't do. Can I be sentry for my company if they go live firing or outfield? Or perhaps help the store? Please enlighten me about this. My leg is hurting and I have to help them.
Notes:
Revocation/ Post Out matters are none of medical centre business. Medical centre can only recommends a revocation/ post out. Please note that all actual manpower matters are all handled by the NS unit's S1 Manpower Branch. Therefore, please go to check with S1 Manpower Officer/ DyS1 Officer/ Chief Clerk.
As mentioned above, for all revocation/ post out matters, please check directly with the S1 Manpower Branch for all manpower issues.
Simple.
Simply refer to Page 1 of http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/395004
As simple as ABC.
A Piece of Cake.
Hi eac
I've spoken with S1, but he didnt seem like he wanted to help post me out and get me revocated. What do I do at this point?
NS have
counselling hotlines for you to call if need arises.
The counsellors are experienced professionals.
You can call them at the following counselling hotlines:
If you think you have been treated unfairly, you can bring up the case to your Commander. We will listen to your case. Do remember to bring along all facts and supporting documents.
We will do our best to address your concerns. Servicemen are to seek redress through proper channels. Together, we can address your issue more expeditiously.
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COUNSELLING
The SAF seeks to promote the well-being of every
serviceman by providing
counselling support for those whom might be facing difficulties
coping with their
personal or work/training related problems. Servicemen who are
experiencing
difficulties can seek help through the avenues described
below.
Commander
interviews of all recruits are conducted within 48
hours of enlistment into full-time NS. Regular interviews are
subsequently conducted on a monthly basis during the PTP/BMT phase.
Special interviews are also granted upon request. Servicemen can
highlight their difficulties during these interviews for
assistance.
Orientation
Officers identify, assist and counsel BMT recruits
with adjustment
and/or other personal problems.
NS SAF Counselling
Hotline is a 24-hour confidential telephone
counselling service provided by the SAF Counselling Centre. Manned
by
trained counselling personnel, the SAF Counselling Hotline offers a
crisis
and telephone counselling service to all servicemen. Callers
may
choose to remain anonymous. Face to face counselling is also
available
at the SAF Counselling Centre upon request/referral.
SAF Paracounselling Scheme complements other existing
counselling
services and provides another avenue of help at the unit level for
those who
need help to deal more effectively with their problems.
Paracounsellors are
specially selected, trained by and work closely under the
professional guidance
and support of counsellors from the SAF Counselling Centre.
Paracounsellors
can be identified through their identification badges as well as
through publicity
posters displayed in their units.
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Prepare for PTP/BMT: http://iprep.ns.sg/
Secrets to Pass IPPT: http://lifestyle.www.ns.sg/features/fitnessxchange
Source: www.ns.sg , www.army.gov.sg , www.mindef.gov.sg
Source:
www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/atozlistings/army/About_BMT.html
Types of Basic Military
Training
PES A/B1
BMT
This 9-week programme trains combat-fit recruits in the basic
military skills to prepare them for advanced vocational training.
The programme includes weapon training with the SAR 21 rifle which
will teach recruits technical handling and marksmanship skills; a
Battle Inoculation Course that simulates a real battlefield; a
Field Camp which develops basic survival skills; progressive
training to complete a 24-km route march which builds combat
fitness and endurance; and hand grenade training.
For those who fail to achieve the
NAPFA test silver award, they are required to undergo an 8-week
Physical Training Phase (PTP) prior to the PES A/B1
BMT.
PES BP
BMT
As evidence has shown that obese recruits are able to achieve
optimum fitness levels and weight loss in about 19 weeks, the new
BMT programme for recruits with Body Mass Index (BMI) scores
exceeding 27.0 will be 19 weeks. This BMT programme is designed to
help obese recruits improve their physical fitness progressively
while equipping them with basic soldiering skills and
knowledge.
PES B2
BMT
Enlistees who were PES C1 previously underwent a 7-week BMT
programme. The new 9-week PES B2 BMT programme will be conducted
for recruits who are medically fit for deployment in selected
combat and combat support vocations, such as signal operators,
combat medics and naval system operators. These recruits will be
given a new medical classification of PES B2, in place of the
existing PES C1 classification. This is to ensure that the medical
classification of our soldiers is consistent with their deployment.
The new 9-week programme will include customised physical training,
as well as basic combat training to prepare them for their combat
and combat support roles.
PES C
BMT
The 9-week BMT programme will be conducted for PES C recruits. This
programme will include light physical training and vocational
training to prepare them for combat service support vocations, such
as service medic, and those related to logistics and
administration.
PES E
BMT
The 4-week BMT programme will be conducted for PES E recruits. This
programme will focus on, vocational training as well as National
Education, SAF core values, regimentation and discipline to prepare
recruits for combat service support vocations.
The only direct official way to know is to call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
Please
submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess
and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446
The only direct official way to know is to call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
The only direct official way to know is to call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
Hi,if MO given an excuse outfield,can i still be deploy outfield?
You have answered your own question yourself.
MCC Specialist Psychiatric Clinic
The Specialist Psychiatric Clinic at MCC aims to assess the
suitability of a pre-enlistee with regard to psychiatric conditions
already known or discovered during the screening process. It is
essential to have one parent accompany you should an appointment be
made for you and it would greatly shorten the delay to enlistment
if you bring all your pre-existing psychiatric medical records for
your appointment.
Medical screening is a series of medical tests done at the Medical Classification Centre (MCC) at CMPB (location map).
The objective of these tests is to ascertain your medical condition and accord you a suitable Physical Employment Status (PES). Based on your PES, you will be assigned to a suitable vocation.
Here are the various PES gradings:
Note that if you are given a PES D grading, it means that more time/tests are required to confirm your medical condition. This normally takes about 2-3 months. However, this duration may be longer depending on your medical condition.
More information on Medical Classification Centre (NS Portal).
Other Services
MCC Eye Clinic
The
Specialist Eye Clinic at MCC provides medical assessment for eye
conditions. An appointment will be made for you during the screening
procedure should it be deemed necessary. Please bring all documents
regarding any known eye condition for your appointment.
MCC ENT (Ear, Nose and Throat) Clinic)
The
Specialist ENT Clinic provides pre-enlistment assessment for ENT
complaints. You will be informed if there is a need for you to attend
this clinic.
MCC Specialist Psychiatric Clinic
The
Specialist Psychiatric Clinic at MCC aims to assess the suitability of a
pre-enlistee with regard to psychiatric conditions already known or
discovered during the screening process. It is essential to have one
parent accompany you should an appointment be made for you and it would
greatly shorten the delay to enlistment if you bring all your
pre-existing psychiatric medical records for your appointment.
MCC Specialist Orthopedic Clinic
The
specialist orthopedic clinic has the purpose of grading a pre-enlistee
with regard to any orthopedic problems. A medical officer will be in
attendance together with a senior doctor from one of the restructured
hospitals. Here we will grade you based on your orthopedic problems.
Please bring all medical reports and X-ray films for this visit.
Medical Review
A
pre-enlistee with any abnormalities noted during the medical screening
will be required to undergo medical review. This can take several forms
as appropriately decided by the Medical Officer.
Referral to SAF Military Medicine Institute (MMI) / Government / Restructured Hospitals
The
pre-enlistee may be referred to SAF MMI, government / restructured
hospitals for further investigations. If the referral is required, he
will be given a set of documents to bring along as well as information
regarding the date, time and venue.
Medical Referral Management System
Medical Referral Management System or MRS allows you (pre-enlistee) to access personal medical information any time at your convenience and to undertake medical related business within a single setting.
Following are some of the MRS functions:
i) Online Medical Information System.
You can view your personal medical information and be kept informed through MRS of pending medical appointments.
ii) Application for a new Letter Of Identity (LOI).
You
can apply for a LOI that waives consultation and investigative fees up
to the point of diagnosis instead of travelling to Central Manpower Base
to obtain the document.
iii) Reminder.
Worried that
you would forget your medical appointment? Just update your contact
details and you would receive reminder through your preferred channel.
We look forward to bringing you the hassle free experience medical screening process!
hey guys, i had a dislocated shoulder incident earlier this year, but i still received a B1L1 clearance. my friends and i are quite surprised at my pes status, i even recevied the VA letter for NDU.
is this common or am i just 'lucky'?
hello may i know the chances of downgrading as i have breathing difficulty from a deviated septum and due for a rhinoseptoplasty surgery
Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446
@eac
i have a memo given by specialist wif condition and surgery stated.do u think im required for a more strong worded memo.
what are the chances of a pes review from my diagnosis above ?
sorry if im too paranoid,just too concern with my health
Please
submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess
and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446
Please
submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess
and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446
Hi I have dry eyes and strabismus , will it affect my pes status?
Please
submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess
and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446
Please
submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess
and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446
Hi all, I am currently a NSF in the PTP phrase and transiting to the BMT phrase next week. I have been on light duty for about 60 days, and RMJ for 84 days. My light duty ends on the first week of my BMT while my RMJ ends in the last week of feb, while my POP is in March. I currently have C5/C6 disc protrusion, L5/S1 disc dessication. I am suspected to have patellar tendinitis and is currently awaiting my knee MRI. Also I have new diagnosed asthma (by camp MO) and have seen the respiratory specialist at NUH. What are the chances of me being able to down PES, and what PES status will I get? I am currently PES A in a combat unit. (My PTP is a mono-intake)
Thanks in advance for the replies!
