PES FAQs
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Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446FYI, PES is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PULHHEEMS.
1) Go to Public Hospital / Private Specialist.Note: You will be classified as a subsidised patient if your first visit is via:
- Referral letter from a Government Restructured Hospital under subsidised status, A&E, Polyclinic or SAF, without specifying a specialist by name.
- Discharge from inpatient class B2 or C without
specifying a specialist by
name.
2) Consult specialist, and do whatever medical check ups required. E.g. physical exam, blood test, x-ray, CT scan, MRI scan.3) Specialist gave a finalised clinical diagnosis.
4) Get the specialist to write you a memo which is to be given to SAF MO. Those who can and are willing to spend some more money can get him/her to write you a specialist report, which is more precise and detailed.
Note: For not to waste time and money, please be more direct yet humble. Request the specialist to write about reviewing of PES and medical board / anything specific such as any excuses to your conditions.5) Book an medical review appointment using the eHealth module @ www.ns.sg (for NSman Reservists).
Just go down to your camp medical centre (for NSFs).
Call CMPB @ 6373 1340 to request another PES review (for Pre-Enlistees after CMPB Checkup).6) Make a trip down to the respective unit camp medical centre. Give the MO whatever supporting documents you have in hand. E.g. Specialist memo/report (most usually the case and highly recommended), x-ray films, CT/MRI scan report, blood investigation lab report... etc.
7) MO will decide whether you are deemed eligible for KIV downgrade, according to the criterias set in the "PES Bible" directive. E.g. Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc.
8) If deemed so, you will sign an acknowledgement notice of Medical Board, whereby your case statement is prepared for review discussion at the monthly medical board meet (usually at the Formation/Division HQ) with another NSF CPT MO and the Chairman (SAF Regular Medical Doctor of MAJOR rank or above). Your Medical Board result will be post mailed to you by your respective NSHRC (Formation NS Hub).
Time and time again, the questions for Medical Review (Downgrade) is repetitive. Therefore, this serves as a general SOP for Medical Board.
Extract from www.mindef.gov.sg/nsmen:
NSmen must update their NS HRCs if they should develop any new medical condition or if their existing medical condition has worsened which might affect their ability to perform their duties during ICT. Arrangements will then be made for them to attend a medical review at the SAF medical centre to assess their fitness for NS.
The NSmen MUST bring along all investigation results and memorandums from his external physician/specialist during the medical review. Depending on the outcome of the medical review, the NSman may be given a medical certificate to defer him from ICT, be scheduled for a medical board to downgrade him if his medical condition is significant, or referred to a restructured hospital for further investigation. In the event that the medical officer determines that the NSman’s medical condition will not affect his ability to participate in the ICT, he will allow the NSman to attend the ICT. -
Hello,
Pre-Enlistee's here.
Is having severe myopia (more than >1000 degrees) have an effect on my PES?
The rest of my body, mental state and myself have no other medical condition other than my eyes. Other than myopia, I've no night or colour blindness. But yet I also have astigmatism, but quite not that bad though.
As of now at 850 degrees and still have 2 or 3 years prior to NS enlistment. Does PES has an effect on combat, combat support or combat service support vocations?
So no specialist memo, no talk. Then so means also got specialist memo, got talk to upgrade PES? So therefore must get hospital specialist to verify and certify fit to get guarantee + stamp + chop?
I might also consider sign-on regular.
Any assistance rendered will be appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Refer:
1. http://sgforums.com/topics/search?q=Declare+Honest&commit=Go&type=topics
2. http://sgforums.com/topics/search?q=CMPB+Checkup&commit=Go&type=topics
3. http://sgforums.com/topics/search?q=PES+Upgrade&commit=Go&type=topics
To be covered under any employer's employment group insurance, a typical job application form will have a 'Declaration' section at the end of the form just before your signature, which usually read,
"Have you been or are you suffering from any medical condition/ disease/ illness/ major medical condition/ mental disorder or physical impairment?"
"Yes/ No"
"If your answer to any of the above is yes, please give details in the space provided."
I declare that all information given herein are true and correct. I understand that a misrepresentation or omission of facts will be sufficient cause for cancellation of consideration for employment or dismissal from the Company’s service if I have been employed.
(Signature)
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Refer:
1. http://sgforums.com/topics/search?q=Declare+Honest&commit=Go&type=topics
2. http://sgforums.com/topics/search?q=CMPB+Checkup&commit=Go&type=topics
3. http://sgforums.com/topics/search?q=PES+Upgrade&commit=Go&type=topics
Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446 -
Prepare for PTP/BMT: http://iprep.ns.sg/
Secrets to Pass IPPT: http://lifestyle.www.ns.sg/features/fitnessxchange
Source: www.ns.sg , www.army.gov.sg , www.mindef.gov.sg
Source:
www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/atozlistings/army/About_BMT.html
Types of Basic Military Training
PES A/B1 BMT
This 9-week programme trains combat-fit recruits in the basic military skills to prepare them for advanced vocational training. The programme includes weapon training with the SAR 21 rifle which will teach recruits technical handling and marksmanship skills; a Battle Inoculation Course that simulates a real battlefield; a Field Camp which develops basic survival skills; progressive training to complete a 24-km route march which builds combat fitness and endurance; and hand grenade training.
For those who fail to achieve the NAPFA test silver award, they are required to undergo an 8-week Physical Training Phase (PTP) prior to the PES A/B1 BMT.
PES BP BMT
As evidence has shown that obese recruits are able to achieve optimum fitness levels and weight loss in about 19 weeks, the new BMT programme for recruits with Body Mass Index (BMI) scores exceeding 27.0 will be 19 weeks. This BMT programme is designed to help obese recruits improve their physical fitness progressively while equipping them with basic soldiering skills and knowledge.
PES B2 BMT
Enlistees who were PES C1 previously underwent a 7-week BMT programme. The new 9-week PES B2 BMT programme will be conducted for recruits who are medically fit for deployment in selected combat and combat support vocations, such as signal operators, combat medics and naval system operators. These recruits will be given a new medical classification of PES B2, in place of the existing PES C1 classification. This is to ensure that the medical classification of our soldiers is consistent with their deployment. The new 9-week programme will include customised physical training, as well as basic combat training to prepare them for their combat and combat support roles.
PES C BMT
The 9-week BMT programme will be conducted for PES C recruits. This programme will include light physical training and vocational training to prepare them for combat service support vocations, such as service medic, and those related to logistics and administration.
PES E BMT
The 4-week BMT programme will be conducted for PES E recruits. This programme will focus on, vocational training as well as National Education, SAF core values, regimentation and discipline to prepare recruits for combat service support vocations. -
Medical screening is a series of medical tests done at the Medical Classification Centre (MCC) at CMPB (location map).
The objective of these tests is to ascertain your medical condition and accord you a suitable Physical Employment Status (PES). Based on your PES, you will be assigned to a suitable vocation.
Here are the various PES gradings:
- PES A: Fit for all combat vocations
- PES B1: Fit for most combat vocations
- PES B2: Fit for some combat vocations
- PES BP: Fit for obese BMT training
- PES C: Fit for combat support vocations
- PES D: Temporary unfit for grading and pending further review
- PES E: Fit for administrative duties only
- PES F: Medically unfit for any form of service
Note that if you are given a PES D grading, it means that more time/tests are required to confirm your medical condition. This normally takes about 2-3 months. However, this duration may be longer depending on your medical condition.
More information on Medical Classification Centre (NS Portal).
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Hi, NSman reservist here.
I was previously downgraded to PES C9L9 Permanent due to slipped discs.
But, I was further downgraded to Temporary PES E9L9 due to hypertension.
I'll be going for a medical review soon, so if let's say the camp MO sees my BP is well under medication controlled, will my PES be revert back to non-combat-fit C9L9 Permanent again instead of combat-fit B?
Thank you.
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Yes.
Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446 -
Hi eac,
I'm a NS men and have been diagnosed by ent specialist with following :
allergic rhinitis to dust mite (skin prick test positive)
signiticant deviated nasal septum
hydropy turbinates
sinutus barotrauma
poor nasal passage
Specialist issued memo requesting me to be excused from dusty environment and medical fitness to be reviewed.
i have another ENT specialist with allergic rhinitis stated in clinical diagnosis.
will I be boarded for medical board review? I have a FFI coming up and will furnish the memo and scan results to MO.
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Yes, there're within PES C to E range, with relevant excuses.
Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446 -
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Hi for dental problems which one will affect PES status?
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Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446 -
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Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446 -
Edit: Okay then I'll be calling them thanks a lot! :) So, they told me only way is to check online which still shows 'D'. Got my question escalated to CMPB lol
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The only direct official way to know is to call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Hi,
So basically I have a skin problem but I decided to tahan through BMT. I am going to POP in 2 weeks and my medical referral is in 28 march which I will get my posting already. If i am excused outfield/sun, will i be able to change my posting? and what kind of posting would i get if i excuse the above stuff?
Thanks
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Please request in black and white to liaise with your NS unit's S1 Manpower Branch.
Attention your request letter to S1 Manpower Officer, Deputy S1 Officer and Chief Clerk.Notes:
Revocation/ Post Out matters are none of medical centre business. Medical centre can only recommends a revocation/ post out. Please note that all actual manpower matters are all handled by the NS unit's S1 Manpower Branch. Therefore, please go to check with S1 Manpower Officer/ DyS1 Officer/ Chief Clerk.
As mentioned above, for all revocation/ post out matters, please check directly with the S1 Manpower Branch for all manpower issues.
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The only direct official way to know is to call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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What's the PES Status for migraine with exertional headache diagnosis?
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Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446 -
The only direct official way to know is to call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Hey just enlisted if I develop any new conditions while in BMT(SVC) do I request for a medical review while in BMT or after post out? Because the BMT is only 4 weeks and by the time the MR is processed it probably will be longer than 4 weeks.
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Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446
