PES FAQs
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FYI, PES is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PULHHEEMS.
1) Go to Public Hospital / Private Specialist.Note: You will be classified as a subsidised patient if your first visit is via:
- Referral letter from a Government Restructured Hospital under subsidised status, A&E, Polyclinic or SAF, without specifying a specialist by name.
- Discharge from inpatient class B2 or C without specifying a specialist by name.
2) Consult specialist, and do whatever medical check ups required. E.g. physical exam, blood test, x-ray, CT scan, MRI scan.3) Specialist gave a finalised clinical diagnosis.
4) Get the specialist to write you a memo which is to be given to SAF MO. Those who can and are willing to spend some more money can get him/her to write you a specialist report, which is more precise and detailed.
Note: For not to waste time and money, please be more direct yet humble. Request the specialist to write about reviewing of PES and medical board / anything specific such as any excuses to your conditions.5) Book an medical review appointment using the eHealth module @ ns.sg (for NSman Reservists).
Just go down to your camp medical centre (for NSFs).
Call CMPB @ 6373 1340 to request another PES review (for Pre-Enlistees after CMPB Checkup).6) Make a trip down to the respective unit camp medical centre. Give the MO whatever supporting documents you have in hand. E.g. Specialist memo/report (most usually the case and highly recommended), x-ray films, CT/MRI scan report, blood investigation lab report... etc.
7) MO will decide whether you are deemed eligible for KIV downgrade, according to the criterias set in the "PES Bible" directive. E.g. Diagnosis, Extent of Diagnosis, Degree of Diagnosis/Injury/Illness/Disease...etc.
8) If deemed so, you will sign an acknowledgement notice of Medical Board, whereby your case statement is prepared for review discussion at the monthly medical board meet (usually at the Formation/Division HQ) with another NSF CPT MO and the Chairman (SAF Regular Medical Doctor of MAJOR rank or above). Your Medical Board result will be post mailed to you by your respective NSHRC (Formation NS Hub).
Time and time again, the questions for Medical Review (Downgrade) is repetitive. Therefore, this serves as a general SOP for Medical Board.
Extract from www.mindef.gov.sg/nsmen:
It is crucial that you update your NS HRCs if you develop a new medical condition or if an existing medical condition has worsened, which may affect your ICT performance. This is so that arrangements will be made for you to attend a medical review at the SAF medical centre to assess your fitness condition for NS.
You MUST bring along all your investigation results and memorandums from your external physician or specialist during your medical review. You may be given a medical certificate for ICT deferment, be scheduled for a medical board to downgrade you if your medical condition is significant, or be referred to a restructured hospital for further examination depending on the outcome of your medical review.
If your medical condition is deemed suited for ICT participation by the medical officer, you will then be allowed to attend ICT. -
Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/492435 -
Hi, I have been for the medical screening and have recently received my PES status of B2L2. I have searched online and found that my PES status is not good. Therefore I would like to either up (preferably) or down my PES. I am given this PES Status due to my slight hearing loss, causing me to fail the hearing test @ CMPB. I have heard from my seniors that he saw people in his platoon wearing hearing aids and his PES status is B1L1. However, I have visited a specialist and he is unwilling to help me write a memo to up or down PES. Can anyone help me? I am kind of lost now. Does anyone know of any specialist who can assist in this area, at least help me to write a memo?
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Please refer to www.cmpb.gov.sg and www.army.gov.sg
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Physical Employment Status (PES)
PES A (L1) = Fit for all combat vocations. (Full BMT) PES B (L1) = Fit for most combat vocations. (Full BMT)All PES A and B1 will be followed by the L-Code (Land Deployability Code) as follows:
L1 – Fit for all field duties including frontline duty.
Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations and be involved in direct combat. PES Bp = Fit for obese Full BMT (applicable to obese recruits).============================================================
PES B2 (formerly called C1) - Fit for some combat vocations. Required to take IPPT but can be excused up to 2 static stations in IPPT.PES B2 grading will be followed by the L-Code (Land Depolyability Code) as follows:
L1 – Fit for all field duties including frontline duty. Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations and be involved in direct combat.
L2 – Fit for most field duties. Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations of Brigade HQ level units and above, and/or Combat Support vocations in frontline units of Battalion and above, and/or Combat Service Support vocations at all echelons.
L3 – Able to bear firearms and operate in a field environment. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above, and/or Combat Service Support Vocations at all echelons.
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PES C = Fit for combat service support vocations. (Modified BMT)
Further subdivided into:
PES C2 - Do not have to take IPPT for NSF/ NSman, except regulars who are required to take Alternative Aerobic Fitness Test (AAFT).
PES C9 - All servicemen not required to take IPPT.PES C grading will be followed by L-Code (Land Deployability Code) as follows:
L2 – Fit for most field duties. Can be deployed in Manoeuvre vocations of Brigade HQ level units and above, and/or Combat Support vocations in frontline units of Battalion and above, and/or Combat Service Support vocations at all echelons.
L3 – Able to bear firearms and operate in a field environment. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above, and/or Combat Service Support vocations at all echelons.
L9 – Able to bear firearms and protect themselves, others and property. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations in Main Support Area, and/or Combat Service Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above.
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PES D = Temporary unfit for grading and pending further review.============================================================
PES E = Fit for administrative duties only.
PES E1 - Able to participate in simple observance parades and LIFE activites.
PES E9 - Unfit for any forms of physical activities; field duties/exercises.
PES E grading will be followed by the L-Code (Land Deployment Code) as follows:
L9 – Able to bear firearms and protect themselves, others and property. Can be deployed in Combat Support vocations in Main Support Area, and/or Combat Service Support vocations of Brigade HQ and above. PES F = Medically unfit for any form of service. -
Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Hi guys,
Went to see the MO recently regarding my down pes case and he told me that I will be temporary down pes to C2L3 for my medical condition. I received a message yesterday saying that I have been assigned a Pes Status and to check my ehealth portal but nothing changed there other than me having a new 6 months status instead. Any idea what’s going on and who should I call to ask?
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/492435 -
Refer: www.cmpb.gov.sg
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/492435 -
Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/492435 -
Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/492435 -
Hi everyone,
I am a pre-enlistee, i have a specialist memo that states that i have a deviated nasal septum. I have nose block every morning i wake up. Can anyone kindly give me rough estimation of what pes will i be assigned to. Thank you in advance
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Refer:
www.cmpb.gov.sg/cmpb/before-ns/pre-enlistment-process/medical-screening-and-psychometric-test/physical-employment-standards-pes
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It's within the new PES B2/3/4 range.
A simple solution is to daily rinse of your nostrils with a small syringe and salt water.
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Ohhhh I see.... May I ask whether will the pes be different (hopefully pes c) if there is additional medical conditions related to deviated nasal septum such as nasal turbinate hypertrophy as well as allergic rhinitis. As I have difficulties keeping my attention throughout the day due to having these issues and is really uncomfortable, therefore I am hoping that I can get pes C. Thanks for the answers by the way :)
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Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/492435 -
Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.
As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/492435