PES FAQs
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Hi, I am a JC1 student and my pre-enlistment Medical Checkup for NS is next year. I have diaphragm hernia which results in a large scar on my chest. Because of the scar, I cannot do any exercises that lift heavy objects/masses like push-ups, chin-ups etc. and other vigorous exercise. Once I ran my 2.4km run and my scar got sore-red and got chest pain. Got exempted from every NAPFA test. I also got G6PD deficiency too. So, which type of PES I most likely will belong to?
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Originally posted by RiverGoh:
Hi, I am a JC1 student and my pre-enlistment Medical Checkup for NS is next year. I have diaphragm hernia which results in a large scar on my chest. Because of the scar, I cannot do any exercises that lift heavy objects/masses like push-ups, chin-ups etc. and other vigorous exercise. Once I ran my 2.4km run and my scar got sore-red and got chest pain. Got exempted from every NAPFA test. I also got G6PD deficiency too. So, which type of PES I most likely will belong to?
C9L9 or E1L9. Probably the latter.
Anyways G6PD doesn't affect your PES.
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Hi, I already went for my medical a few months ago and got PES B2L3 due to shoulder pains. (Enlisting next year)
Recently, I went for an MRI and it shows that I have a SLAP tear on my shoulder and I have the report for it.
Will it make any difference to my current PES?
Also, if I were to go down to CMPB, what number to I have to call to make arrangements?
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Originally posted by Yuiitsu:
Hi, I already went for my medical a few months ago and got PES B2L3 due to shoulder pains. (Enlisting next year)
Recently, I went for an MRI and it shows that I have a SLAP tear on my shoulder and I have the report for it.
Will it make any difference to my current PES?
Also, if I were to go down to CMPB, what number to I have to call to make arrangements?
Thank you for you help.
It's very very simple as ABC, as easy as 123... Really.Just go read this when it's already made a sticky topic...
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Originally posted by coldzero:
I was under temp pes E9L9 till I got upgraded to B2L2 after I ord. What's that? New pes? Like that I need to take IPPT every year and what vocations will I get revocated to?
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To coldzero, revocate to what we dunno. Because during your NS we dunno what training you went for, in reservice they probably can't ask you to train in a new vocation.
So high chance just do admin stuff like you did during your E9L9, but can't guarantee because saf always fuck up.
Since you PES B nid to do ippt.
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Originally posted by trolol:
To coldzero, revocate to what we dunno. Because during your NS we dunno what training you went for, in reservice they probably can't ask you to train in a new vocation.
So high chance just do admin stuff like you did during your E9L9, but can't guarantee because saf always fuck up.
Since you PES B nid to do ippt.
PES B2L2 should be combat medic, signaller
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Hi all. 2 months ago, I posted to this topic the following:
Hello. I am an NSF currently in the rifleman vocation, PES B L1. 3 months ago in early May, I had an in-service injury, injuring my left shoulder causing strain, inflammation and interrupted sleeps daily. After 3 weeks of ex UL status, the camp MO gave me OOC status with 2 months light duties based on my specialist suspicion that I have a rotator cuff tear injury.
However, during the month of June and half of July, I was made to become store party, ammo party and also follow the fighting fit to numerous outfield. Even worse, despite sounding out that I have to go for my first physiotherapy appt,it was postponed twice (worth 3 weeks).
In July, during my first physio visit, my condition was very bad despite given the status of light duties.
To make matters worse, I was chosen to be a temp storeman for my coy. Ex Upper limb n doing storework do not match.
When my MRI scan results came out, the MRI report stated that I have supraspinatus tendinous interstitial tear. The specialist letter stated "KIV downgrade, kindly consider ex UL, heavy loads". Hence the MO gave me 3 month status of ex rmj, HL, UL, overhead heavy objects but did not board me. However, this does not work. I m still a temp storeman.
Just recently, my specialist says that i should not be doing store work. Hence he recommended clerical work. Eventually, the MO wrote a memo to my coy office saying that i only can do desk-bound duties. However i cant since my officer says that priority goes to those already downgarded, hence still a temp storeman.
Also, my physiotherapist says that my condition sometimes improves and worsens because of store work.
Qns to ask:
1. Should I visit the camp MO again?
2. Should I see my specialist asap?
3. If my camp MO decides to board me, what pes status will i get? PES C2L2 or something else? Temp or Perm if I were to do surgery?
As I was instructed by my doctor I should go for arthroscopic surgery, I went to inform my OC numerous times that I cannot be storeman. Fortunately, I was reluctantly given desk-bound duties as the company clerk (ASA) for 1 month till my surgery day.
After surgery, I am diagnosed with the following:
"Ligamentous hyperlaxity with anterior instability" ( Multi-directional instability, Bankart tear)
This means my ligament is very loose and also torn plus my shoulder is very close to dislocation.
I was given 14 + 43 - 2(overlap) = 55 days of hospitalisation leave.
4- 6 weeks to wear arm sling even when sleeping. 6 weeks to heal the wound. 6 - 9 months to restore about 90% of my shoulder function.
As a human being, I have suffered enough. X-ray scan showed nothing. MRI scan showed something else that is minor but in the end was false.
Taking into consideration that my injury area is prone to a repeated injury in the future and that i am still combat-fit PES BL1 on paper. Any idea what PES status will I get and whether will it be temp 6 months or perm?
Please enlighten me. FYI: I typed this with one hand.
And just curious, do CPT MOs keep a track record of all previous status, MCs, specialist letter because my camp MO does not seem to understand why I had to go for surgery?
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Hi people,
I am in tekong now and was diagnosed with hypertension. Showed the letter to MO and he decided to OOT me and downgrade me for 6 months. Now waiting for medical board. What are the chances that the medical board will reject my downgrade? And if I eventually got downgraded, will they review my condition every 6 months and upgrade me if they deemed so? Also, what are the chances of getting a perm pes status?
Thanks guys.
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Hi all, I went for the pre-enlistee checkup in June and got graded B1L1. Since i havent done napfa (cos of mc during the sch napfa period) I was training pullups when I think I got arm injury. Now everytime do pullup my elbows will crack as i come down and quite painful each time. from 4/5 drop to max 2 now. then progress to cant even carry 5kg ricebag without elbow feeling like its gonna break. went to poly got some crap gp which was no help and refused to give me referral. in the end went to SGH as private. spec says that according to xray scans arm seems normal and if i want to do further checkups then must do MRI scan.
My qns
1) When do most PES Bs who didnt pass napfa get enlisted for PTP? i heard usually mid-dec?
2) Now its like 3 weeks to my A lvls and I dun want to sacrifice studying time. however if i go see spec and do mri after As (like late nov) will it be too late for a med review? i read theres med board once a month so must i submit my case for med review during oct for them to decide during nov?
3) this kind of condition is usually what kind of PES? b1, b2, or c2?
4) if i get b2 and excused for chinup station, do i still need to go for ptp if i fail napfa? what if i take napfa outside and pass everything other than chinups?
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I got diagnosed to have Type 2 diabetic lately by polyclinic doctor and now my family GP doctor given me anti-diabetes medication and Ialso hypertension since my early teen. May I know what pes status would i be, would it be perm or temp status. I am Pes B now.
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Originally posted by manforward:
Hi people,
I am in tekong now and was diagnosed with hypertension. Showed the letter to MO and he decided to OOT me and downgrade me for 6 months. Now waiting for medical board. What are the chances that the medical board will reject my downgrade? And if I eventually got downgraded, will they review my condition every 6 months and upgrade me if they deemed so? Also, what are the chances of getting a perm pes status?
Thanks guys.
Answers:
What are the chances? = % Probability = % Predictability = The same mathematical equation to strike 4D / Toto...1) If waiting for Medical Board, it's halfway through the process of downgrade.
2) Whether Temp or Perm PES, we don't know. See how, it's up to the Medical Board. If Temp PES, upon due expiry date, you need to go down to the medical centre for review. If you have anymore hospital specialist memo, just please show to the MO then. -
Originally posted by shawnstewart:
Hi all. 2 months ago, I posted to this topic the following:
As I was instructed by my doctor I should go for arthroscopic surgery, I went to inform my OC numerous times that I cannot be storeman. Fortunately, I was reluctantly given desk-bound duties as the company clerk (ASA) for 1 month till my surgery day.
After surgery, I am diagnosed with the following:
"Ligamentous hyperlaxity with anterior instability" ( Multi-directional instability, Bankart tear)
This means my ligament is very loose and also torn plus my shoulder is very close to dislocation.
I was given 14 + 43 - 2(overlap) = 55 days of hospitalisation leave.
4- 6 weeks to wear arm sling even when sleeping. 6 weeks to heal the wound. 6 - 9 months to restore about 90% of my shoulder function.
As a human being, I have suffered enough. X-ray scan showed nothing. MRI scan showed something else that is minor but in the end was false.
Taking into consideration that my injury area is prone to a repeated injury in the future and that i am still combat-fit PES BL1 on paper. Any idea what PES status will I get and whether will it be temp 6 months or perm?
Please enlighten me. FYI: I typed this with one hand.
And just curious, do CPT MOs keep a track record of all previous status, MCs, specialist letter because my camp MO does not seem to understand why I had to go for surgery?
It's very very simple as ABC, as easy as 123... Really.Just go read this when it's already made a sticky topic...
Go to: www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446
This is within PES C range for as long as you shown the camp MO all your hospital specialist memos + hospitalisation discharge summary + whatsoever hospital documents.
In the medical centre, there is a room with all the camp personnel personal medical file dockets for hard copy documents. Plus, there is an internal medical IT information system for all electronic soft copy documents.
Seriously, please just show the camp MO all your hospital specialist memos, this will solve the problem.
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Originally posted by yakyl:
Hi all, I went for the pre-enlistee checkup in June and got graded B1L1. Since i havent done napfa (cos of mc during the sch napfa period) I was training pullups when I think I got arm injury. Now everytime do pullup my elbows will crack as i come down and quite painful each time. from 4/5 drop to max 2 now. then progress to cant even carry 5kg ricebag without elbow feeling like its gonna break. went to poly got some crap gp which was no help and refused to give me referral. in the end went to SGH as private. spec says that according to xray scans arm seems normal and if i want to do further checkups then must do MRI scan.
My qns
1) When do most PES Bs who didnt pass napfa get enlisted for PTP? i heard usually mid-dec?
2) Now its like 3 weeks to my A lvls and I dun want to sacrifice studying time. however if i go see spec and do mri after As (like late nov) will it be too late for a med review? i read theres med board once a month so must i submit my case for med review during oct for them to decide during nov?
3) this kind of condition is usually what kind of PES? b1, b2, or c2?
4) if i get b2 and excused for chinup station, do i still need to go for ptp if i fail napfa? what if i take napfa outside and pass everything other than chinups?
1) www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/atozlistings/army/About_BMT.html2) So long as you have gotten the specialist memos before your CMPB checkup appointment date, then just show the CMPB doctors the memos.
3) If it's just a light injury, it's a PES B, with excuse upper limbs activities since it will heal eventually. If it's a moderate injury, it's within PES C range. It's all depends on what's written in the hospital specialist memo. e.g. the clinical diagnosis, the recommendations...etc.4) For so long as fighting combat fit (only PES A/B), only NAPFA Silver/ Gold will get the 2 months Fitness Cut (22 months of NS).
If you are PES C/E, even take NAPFA is of no use at all since PES C/E is non-combat fit, thus not eligible for the Fitness Cut discount at all, so you will have to serve the full 24 months of NS. -
Originally posted by Dmxtech:
I got diagnosed to have Type 2 diabetic lately by polyclinic doctor and now my family GP doctor given me anti-diabetes medication and Ialso hypertension since my early teen. May I know what pes status would i be, would it be perm or temp status. I am Pes B now.
Answers can be found @ www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446All you got to do is to get a specialist memo from the hospital specialist.
Depending on the severity of the clinical diagnosis and what's written in the memo, it can range from PES B with certain excuses to within PES C range. -
Hi All,
i need some advice on my situation.
Current pes: C2L9 perm + excuse boots 3 mths
did a mri scan at cgh and specialist recommended further downgrade + excuse boots perm. Camp MO also made the same recommendations last week during medical review and sent the case for medical boarding.
May I know what is the likely pes status i'll get and how long will this take ? from current status to new status???
Thanks!
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Originally posted by eth0:
Hi All,
i need some advice on my situation.
Current pes: C2L9 perm + excuse boots 3 mths
did a mri scan at cgh and specialist recommended further downgrade + excuse boots perm. Camp MO also made the same recommendations last week during medical review and sent the case for medical boarding.
May I know what is the likely pes status i'll get and how long will this take ? from current status to new status???
Thanks!
Medical Board Meet is held once a month. If you miss this month's one, then it will be roll over to the next month's one.
Answers can be found @ www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446 -
Originally posted by eac:
1) www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/atozlistings/army/About_BMT.html2) So long as you have gotten the specialist memos before your CMPB checkup appointment date, then just show the CMPB doctors the memos.
3) If it's just a light injury, it's a PES B, with excuse upper limbs activities since it will heal eventually. If it's a moderate injury, it's within PES C range. It's all depends on what's written in the hospital specialist memo. e.g. the clinical diagnosis, the recommendations...etc.4) For so long as fighting combat fit (only PES A/B), only NAPFA Silver/ Gold will get the 2 months Fitness Cut (22 months of NS).
If you are PES C/E, even take NAPFA is of no use at all since PES C/E is non-combat fit, thus not eligible for the Fitness Cut discount at all, so you will have to serve the full 24 months of NS.for #2 right, can the MO at CMPB downpes me immediately or must I wait for the medical board thing. what will happen to me in the meantime? like say i go cmpb on 1st dec but in my letter says enlisting 15 dec (or something) for ptp?
and just to confirm, only pes A/B1 need to go for ptp right. for b2 even if you didnt take/pass napfa still no ptp right?
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Originally posted by yakyl:
for #2 right, can the MO at CMPB downpes me immediately or must I wait for the medical board thing. what will happen to me in the meantime? like say i go cmpb on 1st dec but in my letter says enlisting 15 dec (or something) for ptp?
and just to confirm, only pes A/B1 need to go for ptp right. for b2 even if you didnt take/pass napfa still no ptp right?
CMPB MO can give an Enlist PES on the spot if the medical case is clear cut supported by hospital specialist memos, health booklet...etc.If the medical case is complicated, then it needs the attention of the Medical Board for approval.
Enlist Prep: http://iprep.ns.sg/
Anyway, the BMT FAQ: www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/137692
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Originally posted by eac:
CMPB MO can give an Enlist PES on the spot if the medical case is clear cut supported by hospital specialist memos, health booklet...etc.If the medical case is complicated, then it needs the attention of the Medical Board for approval.
Enlist Prep: http://iprep.ns.sg/
Anyway, the BMT FAQ: www.sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/137692
ah ok i see. tyvm :)
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hello eac,
I've something to consult you...
I've been seeing floaters for months and on a daily basis... have book a medical appt with national eye centre for checkup. Is it normal to see floaters everyday because in the past rarely see floaters lei... it's worse when under sunlight. Currently PES B1L1, will it help me to downpes to pes c ? Thanks.
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Originally posted by Zhiqiang 1990:
hello eac,
I've something to consult you...
I've been seeing floaters for months and on a daily basis... have book a medical appt with national eye centre for checkup. Is it normal to see floaters everyday because in the past rarely see floaters lei... it's worse when under sunlight. Currently PES B1L1, will it help me to downpes to pes c ? Thanks.
It's only once that when you get a specialist memo with a confirmed final diagnosis, then you can have the opportunity for PES review. -
hi. i have a thing to ask, im a rifleman and im used to be pes b but because i have gastric ucles and vomit blood , the mb down pes me to e9l9 for 6 mth. i wan ask will my this pes status remain or? around how many percent will i remain this pes.? and when they ask me for pes review , wad will they ask? how then i can remain this pes? and can anyone post wad e9l9 excuse, dun mind write out everything. thanks so much
