it's all in the name of technical specialisation expertise. and only certain vocations can be in that category. most scholars when they pen their signature on the contract, they have to stick with the voc all the way [even if the job is not in line with the voc for eg psychologist] with certain exceptions.
so alize, it isnt abt impressiveness or being forced but rather the choice of vocation and area of study. nothing is really all "slack" in this world. for eg in RSAF, the head of air logs is alrdy the highest lvl for an engineer if going strictly by vocation without assuming other command appts in which many of them alrdy go to pilots.
Fully agree with what you said but I didn't say being an ME was slack (amanda said it) or a forced choice.
I'm aware one is almost always bound to the career scheme you choose. Therefore a scholar would always choose to enter the command track (possible regardless of field of study) instead of the ME track if he can help it, leading to BG-level scholars who would otherwise not reach that rank. (which might open more top posts to able people other than top scholars)
What is not clearly explained by Mindef are:
the command authority given to MEs. Are they like US E-4 Specialists, with no authority except within their appointment?
whether the scheme will reduce or remove the opportunity to make Spec-to-Officer conversions (eg MWO-to-MAJ promotions) like in the past, conversions to ME being encouraged instead.
all related command regulations can be read up in the SAF Act.
scheme is 1 thing, but track is another matter. both schemes do give the officers a chance to command with the same priveleges/powers accorded. with the exception of safos for officer scheme only, the rest who are in merit [right after safos] all have almost equal chances in the track they take. [diff places have diff fit for the same positions, with the exception of certain places that fits everyone of the equivalent ranking]
in fact this whole scheme makes conversions [which in this case to a senior expert] easier as compared to the past. [thru gaining qualifications]. previously, spec to officer was tough to get, even tougher for expertise vocations.
for the last part, the conversion was only 1 shot across the board beginning 1 Apr last year for vocations that qualify. [some personnel in them do not qualify, along with a minority of specs/officers who wanna zhao or smth and hence reject the letter]
from last year start of scheme till now no other vocations have been placed on this scheme.
Originally posted by collinnxk88:all related command regulations can be read up in the SAF Act.
scheme is 1 thing, but track is another matter. both schemes do give the officers a chance to command with the same priveleges/powers accorded. with the exception of safos for officer scheme only, the rest who are in merit [right after safos] all have almost equal chances in the track they take. [diff places have diff fit for the same positions, with the exception of certain places that fits everyone of the equivalent ranking]
in fact this whole scheme makes conversions [which in this case to a senior expert] easier as compared to the past. [thru gaining qualifications]. previously, spec to officer was tough to get, even tougher for expertise vocations.
for the last part, the conversion was only 1 shot across the board beginning 1 Apr last year for vocations that qualify. [some personnel in them do not qualify, along with a minority of specs/officers who wanna zhao or smth and hence reject the letter]
from last year start of scheme till now no other vocations have been placed on this scheme.
Thanks, interesting info. What does this mean?
[diff places have diff fit for the same positions, with the exception of certain places that fits everyone of the equivalent ranking]
say, for CO itself, operations/frontline units usually have the officer from the related vocation that is in line with what the unit primarily does to take the place in their unit. and of course for logistics/ammo/maintenance units, that role is mostly held by a senior expert who's an engineer.
however there are certain appointments that fit all those eligible regardless of vocation also, for example those dealing with training/manpower/operations
Am I right to say that all officers must enter with PES A or B, but this is not required for some ME roles?
given the scrutiny level and screening nowadays, it's no way for anyone that plans to don any uniform in SAF under any entry contract at least.
even the yearly BMI certification also 'bo beh zhao' lol.
I assume you mean no way out of getting PES A or B.
(For BMI, I assume one of our previous COAs has been exempted.)
ya no other choice..
and that guy is actually an ex-CDF, with such a history not to be seen again.
Originally posted by collinnxk88:ya no other choice..
and that guy is actually an ex-CDF, with such a history not to be seen again.
He might have other problems. Mindef gym is full of babes, any "normal" man would want to spend time there.
Originally posted by alize:Surprising that ME8 corresponds to BG.
BGs are scholars, to be an ME8 you have to be a scholar. If you are a scholar you won't want to be an ME, you'll want to be an actual BG.
I think you can't force a BG-material scholar to be an ME, you can only promote a less impressive scholar to a BG-level ME.
Not all BGs are scholars.
Originally posted by alize:Surprising that ME8 corresponds to BG.
BGs are scholars, to be an ME8 you have to be a scholar. If you are a scholar you won't want to be an ME, you'll want to be an actual BG.
I think you can't force a BG-material scholar to be an ME, you can only promote a less impressive scholar to a BG-level ME.
Tan Huck Gim was ot a scholar. Neither was Chin Phei Chen
I don't mean to be offensive
But when i saw one Uncle wearing the air force no.3 with the ME rank walking into my office building, at first i thought he was a security officer :)