NS: Easing Ban on Camera Phones w/ Camera Removed in Camps!
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Originally posted by sbst275:
I dun think camp has 3G network....
So... What's the need for smartphone?
i used my broadband simcard on HTC non camera phone, although sucks at internet surfing control but at least i can use internet in ICT. Indoor connection lousier, slightly better if near the window. Outfield connection is a breeze. -
do they still have the coin-operated phones in camp now?
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Originally posted by Loor:
do they still have the coin-operated phones in camp now?
no more..
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The main point is that it's just about flexibility. In my case, I have a Nokia E72 which is doing well EXCEPT for its CAMERA. Going to get new phone 2012, NS for me would be around 2013 or 2014. Which would make this Nokia my spare. Definitely it would be logical to remove camera and use for NS, right? And why all the profound excision methods..just use knife to dig out, done.
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Originally posted by DarkRpr:
The main point is that it's just about flexibility. In my case, I have a Nokia E72 which is doing well EXCEPT for its CAMERA. Going to get new phone 2012, NS for me would be around 2013 or 2014. Which would make this Nokia my spare. Definitely it would be logical to remove camera and use for NS, right? And why all the profound excision methods..just use knife to dig out, done.
Good luck trying not to wreck your own phone with your knife.
I'm an engineer, and even I know to leave such things to trained personnel.
And even if what you say works, good luck with your warranty.
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Just get a nokia phone from mustafa.
Save the phone for spare.
Non camera phone is less than 50 dollars and can last you longer.
Save the trouble of finding power point to charge.
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actually this thing is already in place. just awaiting for the 'GO'.
very highly will pass through unless some higher ups put a halt to it.
the idea of this is not for the NSF soldiers, more for the regulars/Gombak/CMPB staff.
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Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
Just get a nokia phone from mustafa.
Save the phone for spare.
Non camera phone is less than 50 dollars and can last you longer.
Save the trouble of finding power point to charge.
Which is what I've been saying, but some people don't seem to get the point.
Seriously, an el cheapo phone from 7 Eleven works well for everyone and can go a full week without charging.
They also tend to be more resistant to damage and less likely to be stolen (because they're just not worth stealing).
But those of you who insist on performing surgery on your smartphones, go ahead. Just be clear that you do so at your own risk, and your warranty will definitely be voided.
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I am new here and I also face this handphone problem when I go back to airbase for ICT.Sometimes,if the RPs manning the gates are reservists that you know,then it is easier to get past them cos all are kakis.
After my 5th ICT,I decided to buy a Nokia from 7-11 cos I am tired of borrowing phones from friends when I go for ICT.Also can act as spare phone if my IP4 have problems.
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Originally posted by fudgester:
Okay, whatever you say.
Good luck with having your warranty voided when you excise the camera from the phone.
I think u better go stay in Myanmar lah. They don't have high tech gadget, don't even talk about 3G network!
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LOA letter of authorization allows one to bring camera phone to camp within period of time. (Get from Mindef or Min. S2 - If your uncle is one of them) Thats explain why OC, CSM and above can use camera phone (If they have LOA). Admin clerk from S1-4 can obtain if S2 staff officer gives. BUT LOA never allow people to use camera phone on DUTY so never get caught in DUTY.
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The suggestion says that all NSF Soldiers are not allowed to bring a Camera Phone, Laptop, Ipad, IPhone and contraband items. Because the guard can check if any soldiers try to bring these items inside the camp the guard have to ask them to surrender these items to the Guardhouse.
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wonder what's so difficult to bring in a non cam phone
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the plan backfired... as in the non camera fitted iPhone.
I guess it was left to teleco to talk to Apple or sort...
If want to push for the NSF, then MINDEF should look for the manufacturers directly. Then people see would find MINDEF really trying ways to work onto getting it into action. You leave it to market, sure it's not going to work.
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Sources:
1. www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/publications/cyberpioneer/news/2012/aug/31aug12_news.html2. www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/news_and_events/nr/2012/aug/31aug12_nr/31aug12_fs.html
From 1 Sep 2012, camera mobile phones will be permitted in designated areas within 14 Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) camps as part of a pilot security zoning programme.
Selected for the high volume of Operationally-Ready National Servicemen (NSmen) and full-time National Servicemen (NSFs) who pass through for training or administration, these include camps that house fitness conditioning centres, training institutes, the Central Manpower Base and Basic Military Training Centre.
Areas in camps where camera mobile phones are allowed are termed Green Zones, though the existing security stance on photography remains the same. Unless authorised by unit commanders for special events such as open houses, graduation parades and cohesion activities, photography is prohibited. Examples of Green Zones include medical centres, accommodation bunks and cookhouses.
Within the Red Zones, which are areas where sensitive and classified information is present, camera mobile phones are not allowed. Before entering a Red Zone, camera mobile phones must be deposited in lockers. Examples of Red Zones include units' operation rooms and offices with computer access to classified information.
The pilot programme was implemented for the convenience of servicemen, and because of the proliferation of smart phones, according to Chief of Staff-General Staff Brigadier-General Tung Yui Fai, who announced this initiative at the Infantry Training Institute (ITI) on 31 Aug.
He added: "This security zoning allows us to better secure areas we think we need to protect better. At the same time, it allows flexibility and convenience for our servicemen who operate within the camp."
Enhanced security measures will be in place at the Red Zones. Where practical, a perimeter fence will be erected to demarcate the Red from the Green Zones; clear signboards will be prominently displayed at the entrance of a Red Zone, and digital locks and close-circuit cameras will be installed for added security.
Only camera mobile phones are allowed in this pilot programme, which will last for six to nine months before a review is conducted. Tablets such as iPads, laptops and digital cameras are still prohibited.
For NSman 3rd Sergeant (3SG) (NS) Lavin Achudan, a marketing manager with Johnson & Johnson who uses an iPhone 4S to access his work emails, being able to bring his camera phone into camp eases his workload. Previously, he would borrow his brother’s basic NOKIA phone when he had to go for his In-Camp Training.
"As a marketing manager, I have to constantly reply to emails from my sales team and customers, and replying emails in the shortest time possible is my highest priority. Allowing me to bring my iPhone to camp allows me to communicate with my customers efficiently, and that is very important to me," said the platoon sergeant of 731st Battalion, Singapore Infantry Regiment.
"When I am not training, I can reply to these emails immediately, as opposed to having to wait till I book out at night to reply to emails. It allows me to reply whenever I have time... It's about the convenience of being able to bring in a phone which I always use, which happens to have a camera," added the 28-year-old.
Echoing this sentiment is 20-year-old NSF 2nd Lieutenant (2LT) Kok Chun Hou, who is a curriculum coordinator at ITI. He uses a basic NOKIA phone in camp and an iPhone 3GS outside of camp.
Citing some inconveniences of using two phones, such as having to input contacts into both phones, 2LT Kok said: "This current NSF generation grew up in the IT age; it's our habit to stay connected. We live, work and play differently from previous generations, so connectivity is very important to us."
"I would also use my smart phone for personal banking and stock-investing. With the implementation of the pilot scheme, I now have the option of just stepping out of the office to use my smart phone," he said.
==============================================================For the convenience of our servicemen, the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) will be implementing a pilot security zoning programme across 14 selected SAF camps. Under the pilot security zoning programme, these 14 camps will be segregated into two distinct zones: Red and Green Zone.
From 1 Sep 2012, servicemen will be allowed to carry camera equipped mobile phones into the Green Zones of the 14 selected SAF camps. For servicemen who need to enter the Red Zone, they must deposit their camera equipped mobile phones at designated lockers prior to entry.
Photography in all SAF camp premises for both Red and Green Zones remain prohibited unless expressedly allowed.
The Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) will be implementing a pilot security zoning programme across 14 selected SAF camps on 1 Sep 2012. These 14 selected SAF camps will be segregated into either Red or Green Zone. Servicemen will be allowed to carry camera equipped mobile phones in the Green Zones. Possession of camera equipped mobile phone is prohibited in Red Zones. Before entering a Red Zone, servicemen who possess a camera equipped mobile phone are required to deposit them at the provided lockers.
Red Zones. Areas where sensitive and classified information and equipment are processed and managed. These areas may include server rooms, unit operation rooms, and offices with computer access to sensitive information. All other areas outside the Red Zone will be designated as Green Zones. Some examples of Green Zone areas are medical centres, accommodation bunks and cookhouses.
Enhanced security measures will be implemented in the Red Zone. Wherever practical, a perimeter fence will be established to segregate the Red and Green Zones. Clear warning signboards will be prominently displayed at the entrance to inform servicemen that they are about to enter a Red Zone. Digital locks will also be installed to control access into the Red Zones. CCTVs with images wired to the unit operations room will also be installed at selected locations within the Red Zone.
Photography in all SAF camp premises continues to be prohibited regardless of the zone.Diagram 1: Warning Sign Boards for Red and Green Zone
