I have got crazy nightmares about being charged by SAF, growing white hair, having sweaty palms, cannot sleep bcos I am usually a forgetful person because I lost a lot of things. I signed my clearance form and all that stuff already. So i was thinking what if I happen to not be careful during army days including bmt, long time ago and maybe lost life jailing things like my rifle or rifle pin (which hopefully I don't think I did), can they still blame you for this after 5 months? I am not sure whether its a mental disorder.
you're obviously over-paranoid, thus having anxiety/ panic/ nervous problems.
you're advised to either consult a doctor for some anti-anxiety/calming pills or consult a psychiatrist.
Nah, it's not about successfully ORDing. I'm paranoid about what if u lost some important arms-related stuff and only after many months they found it's you. It's a phobia since the maximum punishment can be a DB jail term for a couple of years.
Originally posted by porkered:Nah, it's not about successfully ORDing. I'm paranoid about what if u lost some important arms-related stuff and only after many months they found it's you. It's a phobia since the maximum punishment can be a DB jail term for a couple of years.
If you might just lost some minor things, then you just need to sign a 1206 form to compensate money back. If you really lost important rifle component parts, they would have call a Military Police by then before ORD/ disruption. Parts such as LED lens, battery cap only need to write some statements to explain why/ when/ where/ how you lost it. Unless C equippment (eg. blank attachment), then CO may then want to charge with an offence such as monetary fine/ confinement/ SOL
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So does saf still have the right to charge after such a long time if they think you lost something important and critical 5 mths ago?
Please be informed that the ORD Clearance form is there for reasons.
Once you have gathered all the relevant signatures and countersigned by your signature to countercheck, it means that you are checked, verified and cleared of all liabilities of any equipments/ any other camp products that have been loaned to you/ in your care temporarily.
Actually what happens when a guy is not cleared? Does that mean he cannot ORD and must continue to report to camp?
I have seen examples of soldiers signed cleared but not cleared. This soldier returned his stuff and signed the CQ books. The CQ said he had let the soldier sign the book on the promise of returning the item later. Both told their story to the PC.
Guess what, our dick PC supported the CQ cos he didn't want to have problems in his store.
Originally posted by alize:Actually what happens when a guy is not cleared? Does that mean he cannot ORD and must continue to report to camp?
I have seen examples of soldiers signed cleared but not cleared. This soldier returned his stuff and signed the CQ books. The CQ said he had let the soldier sign the book on the promise of returning the item later. Both told their story to the PC.
Guess what, our dick PC supported the CQ cos he didn't want to have problems in his store.
as far as i know, so as long as a person have had taken back your NRIC, it's very difficult to chase back the loaned stuff as the person is already back to civilian status (no longer a full-time soldier). therefore, the person is legally not obliged to go back to camp unless he is issued with a SAF100, for which is the standard notice for any reservist call up.
furthermore, once the clearance form and any loan books are signed, it's the proof in case of any dispute arises to counter argue back that all the parties involved have checked clear, and thus it's not the person's fault anymore.
Source: www.ns.sg
What is meant by no longer liable for National Service?
Under the Enlistment Act, Chapter 93, NSmen will not be liable for NS call-ups when they reach the statutory age limit of 40 for Warrant Officers, Specialists and Enlistees ( WOSEs) and 50 for Officers. In other words, personnel reaching the stated statutory age limit will no longer be liable to be called up for any NS activities such as ICT, IPPT, mobilisation etc.
Do I have to keep the notification letter?
Your National Service liability status will have been updated in our system once you reached your statutory age limit. There is hence no requirement for you to keep the notification letter unless you just want to retain it for reference.
How can I go about obtaining a replacement copy of the notification letter?
As highlighted in para 3, there is actually no requirement for you to keep the notification letter. Should you however still require a replacement copy, you may contact NS Call Centre at 1800-3676767 or email us at [email protected].
Will all NSmen who reach their statutory age receive the notification letter?
Generally, all NSmen will receive the notification letters except for those who are released and discharged on medical grounds or those who renounced their citizenship.
Do I still need to apply for Exit Permit or inform MINDEF Notification Centre when I travel overseas henceforth?
No.
Will I still enjoy the NSmen tax relief now that I have completed my NS liability?
Yes. Generally, all NSmen will continue to enjoy a tax relief of S$1,500.00 from their taxable income unless subsequently revoked by the Proper Authority.
I see. So once your clearance is signed you will not be liable for anything else or more or less protected from any ns item related issues from small to serious you had history of... ?