Sign On: Why Army Engineer Pay Is Different with Other ME?

• cout << user

  30 Apr 12, 01:22

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• cout << user

  30 Apr 12, 01:24

  

   

• alize

  30 Apr 12, 14:39

  Probably they want to recognise that Engineers are a siong vocation. But they don't want to raise their pay above ME5 or Officers or they will get jealous. So they instead handicapped the Good Honors ME4.

  Anwyay I'm just speculating. Ask the scholar involved.

• dangerboi

  2 May 12, 13:03

  They have different job scope.

• Lokey

  2 May 12, 18:18

  All the salary of mindef are placed $1000 above the market rate.

  An engineer pay is about $ 2.8 K outside. The mindef engineer is $ 3.8 K.

• Hitman Chief (Barium)

  2 May 12, 18:23

  medical so low pay........see so many dirty things n touch so many bloody things and pay so little???

• alize

  2 May 12, 18:25

  Originally posted by Lokey:

  All the salary of mindef are placed $1000 above the market rate.

  An engineer pay is about $ 2.8 K outside. The mindef engineer is $ 3.8 K.

  This is combat engineer. Like a crane operator in uniform.

• Lokey

  2 May 12, 21:22

  Originally posted by Hitman Chief (Barium):

  medical so low pay........see so many dirty things n touch so many bloody things and pay so little???

  The medical expert as actually nurses.

• Lokey

  2 May 12, 21:26

  Originally posted by alize:

  This is combat engineer. Like a crane operator in uniform.

  I dont think the Army engineer is just referring to the combat engineer only. All  these domain experts are professional jobs.

• alize

  3 May 12, 11:40

  Originally posted by Lokey:

  I dont think the Army engineer is just referring to the combat engineer only. All  these domain experts are professional jobs.

  It depends. Some MEs are in spec's jobs.

• NG QIBO AARON AUBREY

  7 May 12, 21:08

  ME are all commissioned officers?

• Lokey

  7 May 12, 21:41

  ME is not a commissioned officer.

• Delirious_prince

  18 May 12, 14:27

  Originally posted by NG QIBO AARON AUBREY:

  ME are all commissioned officers?

  Strictly speaking, ME are neither officers nor WOSpecs in the sense. However, there is a corresponding rank for each of the ME grades, and ME4 and above receive the same protocol as commissioned officers.

• Delirious_prince

  18 May 12, 14:29

  Originally posted by Lokey:

  I dont think the Army engineer is just referring to the combat engineer only. All  these domain experts are professional jobs.

  The MDES Army Engineer is NOT a Combat Engineer (i.e. those in the 3_ SCE). The only similarity between these two vocations is the word 'Engineer' :P

  MDES Army Engineer refers to those under technicians / maintenance.

• alize

  18 May 12, 14:30

  The ME scheme is not between but alongside. ME4 = LTA, ME3 = MSG.

  And I think all ME are regulars. Never hear of NSF becoming ME. So although there may be confusion about who theoretically outranks who, in practice any ME (except maybe ME1 or ME2) will outrank the NSF.

• Delirious_prince

  18 May 12, 14:48

  Originally posted by alize:

  The ME scheme is not between but alongside. ME4 = LTA, ME3 = MSG.

  And I think all ME are regulars. Never hear of NSF becoming ME. So although there may be confusion about who theoretically outranks who, in practice any ME (except maybe ME1 or ME2) will outrank the NSF.

  Yep you are right, the ME scheme is alongside the WOSpec and Officer schemes. However, a slight correction, ME3 = 3WO to 1WO. MSG equivalent is ME2. ME4 = LTA & CPT.

  All ME are regulars. A newly minted ME1 out of training is equivalent to a 3SG. Likewise, on the ground, an ME3 - WO equivalent - still gives the due respect to his PC who could be a ME4 or NSF 2LT. From my observation, the issue on 'outranking' is not really emphasised as much in today's SAF. I have observed a regular LTA address an ME4 as 'Sir', likewise I have observed an ME4 (PC appointment) address his fellow ME4 (OC appointment) as 'Sir', too.

  In practice, it is more important to respect each other's appointment and place within the organisation :)

• NG QIBO AARON AUBREY

  18 May 12, 17:02

  but do they go OCS? the ME

• Delirious_prince

  19 May 12, 00:02

  Originally posted by NG QIBO AARON AUBREY:

  Obut do they go OCS? the ME

  Yes, for ME4.

• NG QIBO AARON AUBREY

  19 May 12, 15:00

  Originally posted by Delirious_prince:

  Yes, for ME4.

  i see so for ME4 and above they are considered officers

   

  anyone got the pic of the ranks?

• alize

  25 May 12, 17:58

  Originally posted by NG QIBO AARON AUBREY:

  i see so for ME4 and above they are considered officers

   

  anyone got the pic of the ranks?

  Here you go.

  http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/atozlistings/army/About_Us/Ranks.html

  Write in and ask them why they're sleeping on it.

• Delirious_prince

  4 Jun 12, 20:00

  Originally posted by alize:

  Here you go.

  http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/atozlistings/army/About_Us/Ranks.html

  Write in and ask them why they're sleeping on it.

  
  Another one:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Armed_Forces_ranks#Military_Domain_Experts_Scheme_ranks

  http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/news_and_events/nr/2009/oct/07oct09_fs.html