Military Driving License: Only Can Drive SAF Vehicles?

• 59seconds

  4 Jul 12, 21:34

  I am currently going for my SAF driving course and my mates who have passed their driving course told me that SAF license can be used to drive civilian vehicle (while you are still in NS, and have not gotten your civilian license). How true is this? Cos i heard a captain who once told me that SAF license can only be used to drive SAF vehicles.

• Resentment

  4 Jul 12, 21:43

  Originally posted by 59seconds:

  I am currently going for my SAF driving course and my mates who have passed their driving course told me that SAF license can be used to drive civilian vehicle (while you are still in NS, and have not gotten your civilian license). How true is this? Cos i heard a captain who once told me that SAF license can only be used to drive SAF vehicles.

  tell your friend dun talk cock , army license is army license , ONLY CAN DRIVE ARMY VEHICLE. you will get your civillian license when you clock your 7000km. and 2 months before ord then you can apply. Including your behaviour in camp is good , and have good record of accident free. I was a saf driver , gotten my civillian license in army also.

• zulkifli mahmood

  4 Jul 12, 21:44

  During my time SAF drivers were not allowed to drive civilian vehicle. But many however do that secretly until they got caught the other party reported it to the police. Then the SAF driver got charged and send for 40 days detention. You want that to happen to you?
• 59seconds

  4 Jul 12, 22:11

  But it is possible for you to drive a civilian vehicle if you hold both civilian and SAF license while you're a NSF right? And is it possible to look for a private driving instructor and show him your SAF license as a proof that you had went through practical and theory tests, then just get the civilian driving test done (just in case you can't clock 7000km during your NSF time) ?

• tarutaru

  4 Jul 12, 22:12

  Either your friend did not heard instruction properly or he's trying to sabo u. Unless you wanna join the brazilian team or else don't try.

  you think they'll care?

• zulkifli mahmood

  4 Jul 12, 22:23

  If you are eighteen and possess a valid civilian driving license before NS and though your vocation is a SAF driver, its legal for you to drive a civilian vehicle. However, driving a military heavy truck is so much different from driving a civilian car, van or truck. Any SAF driver has to go through the basic driving lesson from a 3 tonner.
• alize

  4 Jul 12, 22:24

  Originally posted by 59seconds:

  But it is possible for you to drive a civilian vehicle if you hold both civilian and SAF license while you're a NSF right?

  In this case, obviously can.

  NS and civil rights are contradictory, but this is taking it too far. If you've earned it, you keep it.

  Originally posted by 59seconds:

  And is it possible to look for a private driving instructor and show him your SAF license as a proof that you had went through practical and theory tests, then just get the civilian driving test done (just in case you can't clock 7000km during your NSF time) ?

  Nope.

• zulkifli mahmood

  4 Jul 12, 22:29

  Absolutely a NO to that bro.
• 59seconds

  4 Jul 12, 22:34

  Means i got cheated :x But one of the guy told me that he showed his private driving instructor his SAF license and went through only the civilian practical driving test and tadahh, he have his civilian license.

• Rednano

  4 Jul 12, 22:35

  
  during NS, if you get caught for driving a civilian vehicle without a valid civilian driving licence, you will get double charged in both the military court and subordinate court.

  this means after you get jailed in the military detention barracks, then when you come out on that day, that day get jailed in a civilian prison.

• alize

  4 Jul 12, 23:01

  Originally posted by 59seconds:

  Means i got cheated :x But one of the guy told me that he showed his private driving instructor his SAF license and went through only the civilian practical driving test and tadahh, he have his civilian license.

  How many times would you like to be told.

• Rednano

  4 Jul 12, 23:06

  Originally posted by alize:

  How many times would you like to be told.

  
  reference:
  http://learn-to-drive.spf.gov.sg/services/learn_to_drive/motorcar/3procedure.htm

• zulkifli mahmood

  4 Jul 12, 23:08

  Yes that is true. You get charge in the civilian court and then after your release from prison SAF will charge you too, you definitely get deterent punishment from the SAF. Your ORD will be extended too. So listen to your brother there.
• alize

  4 Jul 12, 23:13

  Maybe, put another way, SAF already made him pass BTT so his instructor can let him touch the car.

  SAF already made him pass FTT so he can book his civilian practical.

  You should verify this.

• MyPillowTalks

  5 Jul 12, 00:02

  I believe the only way for a civilian to take a practical driving test is to do it at a driving school.
  
  And in order for him to take a practical driving test at a driving school, he must proof that he had passed his Basic theory test(BTT) and Final theory test(FTT), as well as in possession of a valid Provisional Driving Licence(PDL).
  
  And in order for him to learn practical driving with a Certified driving instructor(Private/school), he needs to be in possesion of a Provisional Driving Licence(PDL), which can only be issued after he passed his Basic theory test.
  
  Im not sure if one can just show an SAF licence and learn and take the test, because when i took my driving test they need me to show my PDL. They didn't say SAF licence can take practical driving test at driving schools.

  Correct me if im wrong

• toyota-corolla

  5 Jul 12, 00:08

  Originally posted by MyPillowTalks:

  I believe the only way for a civilian to take a practical driving test is to do it at a driving school.
  
  And in order for him to take a practical driving test at a driving school, he must proof that he had passed his Basic theory test(BTT) and Final theory test(FTT), as well as in possession of a valid Provisional Driving Licence(PDL).
  
  And in order for him to learn practical driving with a Certified driving instructor(Private/school), he needs to be in possesion of a Provisional Driving Licence(PDL), which can only be issued after he passed his Basic theory test.
  
  Im not sure if one can just show an SAF licence and learn and take the test, because when i took my driving test they need me to show my PDL. They didn't say SAF licence can take practical driving test at driving schools.

  Correct me if im wrong

  Hello pillow, you're right.

  SAF military driving licence is learn, take text, failed 9 time OOC (Out of Course). There's no way a Military Driving Licence will allow you to drive Civilian Vehicle. The only way to do so is to obtain a Civilian Licence, in this case, you can convert your Military Driving Licence 2 mths before you ORD and clocked at least 7000km (any driver vocation care to double confirm my statement?). There's no shortcut in life pal.

   

  Soruce, myself, dual vocation, ord alr. 

• Rednano

  5 Jul 12, 00:09

  Class 3/3A Driving Licence - Procedure

  Legal Requirement
  Under the Road Traffic Act, you have to be at least 18 years of age before you can drive a motorcar.

  Enroll For Driving Classes
  You can enroll as a student into a driving school or engage a private driving instructor for driving lessons.

  If you are engaging a private driving instructor, please make sure that the driving instructor is licensed by Traffic Police Department. If in doubt, please contact Traffic Police Department Hotlines @ 6547 0000.

  Below is the list of driving schools which you may wish to enroll into :

  Bukit Batok Driving Centre (BBDC)
  815 Bukit Batok West Ave 5
  Singapore 659085
  Tel : 6561 1233

  ComfortDelGro Driving Centre Pte Ltd
  205 Ubi Ave 4
  Singapore 408805
  Tel : 6841 8900

  Singapore Safety Driving Centre (SSDC)
  2 Woodlands Industrial Park E4
  Singapore 757387
  Tel : 6482 6060

  Pass The Basis Theory Test (BTT)
  Before you can apply for a Provisional Driving Licence(PDL) to learn to drive a motorcar, you must first pass the Basic Theory Test (BTT). This test is designed to test your knowledge of the rules and regulations of the road, the traffic signs and signals. Upon passing the BTT, you can apply for a Provisional Driving Licence (PDL) which will allow you to practise driving on the public roads.

  How to book for Basic Theory Test (BTT) :

  • The first step towards passing the BTT is to understand the contents under the syllabus of the Basic Theory of Driving. A copy of the official handbook on the Basic Theory of Driving can be purchased from the following locations or major bookshops :

    Batok Driving Centre (BBDC)
    815 Bukit Batok West Ave 5
    Singapore 659085
    Tel : 6561 1233

    ComfortDelGro Driving Centre Pte Ltd
    205 Ubi Ave 4
    Singapore 408805
    Tel : 6848 0617

    Singapore Safety Driving Centre (SSDC)
    2 Woodlands Industrial Park E4
    Singapore 757387
    Tel : 6482 6060

  If you have enrolled with the driving centre, they will conduct the theory lesson and provide you the reading materials.

  • You can book a BTT date at the following centres :
    • Bukit Batok Driving Centre
    • ComfortDelGro Driving Centre Pte Ltd
    • Singapore Safety Driving Centre

  Checklist on Booking of Basic Theory Test (BTT) for Class 3.
  
  Apply For Provisional Driving Licence (PDL)
  You can only apply for the Provisional Driving Licence (PDL) after you have passed the Basic Theory Test (BTT). The PDL is only valid for 6 months is renewable thereafter. After obtaining your PDL, you can then learn driving on public roads.

  You need to have a qualified driving instructor seated beside you while learning driving at all times. The vehicle you are learning in should display two 18cm square 'L' plates, in a conspicuous position on both the front and back of your vehicle as well as be insured against third-party risk and driving tuition.

  How to apply Provisional Driving Licence (PDL) :

  • Prior to your obtaining the PDL, you will need to take and pass an eyesight test.
  • To apply for a PDL, you need to go to one of the 3 test centres above.
  • The validity period for a PDL and fee is as follow :
    • Validity period for 6 months.
    • The fee payable for the grant or renewal of a PDL is $25.00.
  • The PDL can be renewed at any Post Office, for a renewal fee of S$25.00.

  Checklist on Applying for Provisional Driving Licence (PDL) for Class 3.

  Driving Lesson
  Having obtained the Provisional Driving Licence (PDL), you can proceed to take your driving lessons.

  The authorized test schools will have structured driving progress and competent driving instructors to train you driving skills.

  Pass The Final Theory Test (FTT)
  Before you can proceed to take practical driving test, you must first pass the Final Theory Test (FTT). The FTT is to test your knowledge on the safety aspects and proper techniques of driving. You must pass the FTT before taking the Practical Driving Test. You need to pass the Practical Driving Test within 2 years of passing the FTT. Otherwise, you need to re-sit for the FTT again.

  How to book for Final Theory Test (FTT) :

  • The first step towards passing the FTT is to understand the contents under the syllabus of the Advanced Theory of Driving. A copy of the official handbook on the Advanced Theory of Driving can be purchased from the above locations or major bookshops.
  • For more details on the scope of the Final Theory Test (FTT), please follow the link .
  • The FTT will be held at the test centres located at :
    • Bukit Batok Driving Centre
    • ComfortDelGro Driving Centre Pte Ltd
    • Singapore Safety Driving Centre

  Checklist on Booking of Final Theory Test (FTT) for Class 3.

  Pass The Practical Driving Test (PDT)
  The Practical Driving Test (PDT) is in addition to the respective prescribed theory test requirements for Class 3 i.e. Basic Theory Test (BTT) and Final Theory Test (FTT). Once you have passed the FTT, you can proceed to sit for the PDT. Your driving school / private driving instructor will be able to advise when to sit for the test and do the necessary booking on your behalf.

  The PDT will be conducted by a Driving Examiner appointed by the Traffic Police and you must provide a motor vehicle which is suitable for the test, in good mechanical condition and properly insured.
  
  Syllabus of Practical Driving Test (PDT) :

  The PDT consists of two parts. The first part is a test of your skills and is conducted on a driving circuit. The second part is a test of your ability to interact safely with other road users and how you comply with and observe traffic rules and regulations. It is conducted on the public roads.

  During the test the examiner will assess your driving performance with a checklist. All possible driving errors are shown on the checklist. If the learner driver commits any serious mistakes, he fails the test immediately. For the less serious mistakes he will accumulate penalty points ranging from 2 to 10 for each mistake. A learner driver who accumulates penalty points in excess of a predetermined number of points fails the test. Whether or not you succeed in your driving test, the checklist used for the test will be given to you at the end of the test so that you can learn from your mistakes.

  Procedure :

  • To take the PDT you have to make an appointment for the test in advance. Your driving school / private driving instructor can advise you and make the necessary arrangements. Booking of the PDT could be done at the three driving schools.
  • Upon passing the PDT, you will then be issued with a Class 3 Driving Licence which allows you to drive:
    • a motorcar of an unladen weight not exceeding 2500kg and constructed to carry a load or passengers.
    • a motor tractor of an unladen weight not exceeding 2500kg.

   

   

  Checklist - Class 3

  Booking of Basic Theory Test (BTT)

  You can book for the Basic Theory Test (BTT) at the counter of your driving school together with the following documents :

  • S$ 6.00 (Test Fee), payment by NETS/CASHCARD is preferred
  • NRIC (Singaporean/Permanent Resident) or Passport & Work Permit/Employment Pass (Foreigner)

  You will be given a test fee receipt indicating the date & time of your test and the venue of the test.

  Applying for Provisional Driving Licence (PDL) for Class 3

  To apply for a Provisional Driving Licence (PDL), you need to apply personally at the Driving Centre where you are enrolled in & produce the following documents :

  • S$ 25.00 (Fee), payment by NET/CASHCARD is preferred
  • NRIC (Singaporean/Permanent Resident) or Passport & Work PErmit/Employment Pass (Foreigner)
  • Passed Basic Theory Test (RTT) Result Slip

  Booking of Final Theory Test (FTT)

  You can book for the Final Theory Test (FTT) at the counter of your driving school together with the following documents :

  • S$ 6.00 (Test Fee), payment by NETS/CASHCARD is preferred
  • NRIC (Singaporean/Permanent Resident) or Passport & Work Permit/Employment Pass (Foreigner)
  • Passed Basic Theory Test (BTT) Notification Slip

  You will be given a test fee receipt indicating the date, time and venue of the test.

  Booking for Practical Driving Test (PDT)

  You need to bring along the following :

  • S$ 20.00 (Fee), payment by NETS/CASHCARD is preferred
  • NRIC (Singaporean/Permanent Resident) or Passport & Work Permit/Employment Pass (Foreigner)
  • Valid Final Theory Test (FTT) pass notification result
  • Valid Provisional Driving Licence (PDL)

  Upon booking, you will be given a receipt indicating time, date & venue of the test.
  
  N.B : You cannot make an appointment for the test if you have accumulated 13 or more demerit points for traffic offences. Even though you have registered for the test, you will not be allowed to sit for it if you have 13 or more demerit points.

  Things to bring on the test date

  On the day of the test date, you must submit the following to the person-in-charge at the counter before your appointed time for your driving test :

  • NRIC (Singaporean/Permanent Resident) or Passport & Work Permit/Employment Pass (Foreigner)
  • Valid Final Theory Test (FTT) pass notification result
  • Valid Provisional Driving Licence (PDL)
  • Test Fee receipt
  • Valid vehicle insurance certificate
  • A motorcar which is suitable & in good mechanical condition

  Please note that you will not be allowed to take the test if you do not bring any of the following documents or if you are late for the test.

• MyPillowTalks

  5 Jul 12, 00:14

  Originally posted by toyota-corolla:

  ord alr. 

  You know im enlisting and purposely say this right?
  Anyway i failed my TP last november, no money retake...now then continue

• toyota-corolla

  5 Jul 12, 00:15

  Originally posted by MyPillowTalks:

  You know im enlisting and purposely say this right?
  Anyway i failed my TP last november, no money retake...now then continue

   to be honest, I dunno leh. When you enlisting har? And where? Tekong har? PES E right? 

  Aiyo! Quickly retake first before enlisting!

• MyPillowTalks

  5 Jul 12, 00:18

  Originally posted by toyota-corolla:

   to be honest, I dunno leh. When you enlisting har? And where? Tekong har? PES E right? 

  Aiyo! Quickly retake first before enlisting!

  23 August, Tekong lor, i tell MO i got visual hallucination i stil PES BP. I think they dun believe
  
  I retaking 10 days before my enlistment. Later fail i will commit suicide in tekong

• toyota-corolla

  5 Jul 12, 00:21

  Originally posted by MyPillowTalks:

  23 August, Tekong lor, i tell MO i got visual hallucination i stil PES BP. I think they dun believe
  
  I retaking 10 days before my enlistment. Later fail i will commit suicide in tekong

  Eh, still fucking far lah. And you keng one is it? Hahahah! I rmb my first day of BMT I kena fuck for some stupid remark I gave, I forgotten I serving NS no longer civilian ah. 

  Pls dun commit suicide in tekong. You will scare other recurit. Hahaha! PTP or enhance? 

• 59seconds

  5 Jul 12, 05:57

  Originally posted by alize:

  Maybe, put another way, SAF already made him pass BTT so his instructor can let him touch the car.

  SAF already made him pass FTT so he can book his civilian practical.

  You should verify this.

  yeah. that's what i meant. thx. i'll verify that.

• TIB1105H

  7 Jul 12, 14:00

  Hi, can i ask, if lets say i got civilian license 3 yrs back, then example i'm posted to driver will i be trained again to drive the army vehicles?

• TIB783G

  7 Jul 12, 14:06

  Originally posted by TIB1105H:

  Hi, can i ask, if lets say i got civilian license 3 yrs back, then example i'm posted to driver will i be trained again to drive the army vehicles?

  How old are you?

• alize

  7 Jul 12, 17:21

  Originally posted by TIB1105H:

  Hi, can i ask, if lets say i got civilian license 3 yrs back, then example i'm posted to driver will i be trained again to drive the army vehicles?

  Yes. All drivers at minimum must do orientation. Plus training for different classes of vehicles.