MEDIC! MEDIC!!!
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actually its true.
cos u shoot at the one giving orders (pc), the one with the antenna whip (signaller) and the one with the cross (medic).
then the whole platoon is in disarray. no one will go and care abt the geneva convention in war cos everyone protect his own ass.. convenient to blame on stray bullets.
the song.. wah lau.. to think that some one actually found it.. nearly forgot it liao.. so long ago... but smm was fun also la last time. damn cold when raining, screwed up toilets some more.. but now new camp dunno how liao..
so meng kwang, ur reservist unit is what? -
Medics?..haha....they are famous..Everyone thinks medisc just know how to eat ,shit and sleep
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Until there is a no duff casualty...Originally posted by MunnaBhai_MBBS:Medics?..haha....they are famous..Everyone thinks medisc just know how to eat ,shit and sleep
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really wat can medics do? wat benefits they haf? no rank no pay.. i kena combat medic..
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hey who said no rank no pay!Originally posted by MyNickisZ:really wat can medics do? wat benefits they haf? no rank no pay.. i kena combat medic.. 
Be cool...combat medics is also a siong vocation..u can either promote to CPL or SGT rank...about allowances..I not really sure about it
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btw i think if the medic can eat and sleep that mean that the unit have a good safety record and the men are on the ball.
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Originally posted by LoVeMeLoVeMenOt:
Heh, always get a kick seeing this pic ... taken when my coy was arrowed to be the “stars” in a Army commercial, all the way back in 1999 ... I'm old!!
andywalker, MyNickisZ and all others posted to SMM ... don't despair ... a CMO posting initially seems really uncool but trust me on this ... it'll grow on you and you'll be glad for it. Unlike most vocations, you will also pick up a skill set that you can use in the real world.
I can understand that Medics in the SAF have an image problem ... who's to blame people for having such negative perceptions? Most first impressions are of “lazy fat-bastard” medics during BMT. That a lot of Platoon Medics are unfit and unmotivated leads to stereotyping like MunnaBhai_MBBS's. 12qwaszx's medic ... now that's what I call a medic.
Your mission if you choose to accept it is to reverse these impressions and glorify the name of CMOs in the SAF.
Some pointers and pitfalls to avoid:
[*]Initially everyone's gonna have a dim view of the platoon medic – unneccesary, superflous, useless even. Don't argue with them or try to convince them with words. Let your actions speak for you.
[*]Be fit. Be very fit. Be very f**king fit. If you can't keep up with your men, you can't do squat. Do the maths, you have one of the heaviest sustained combat load in the SAF. The first inkling your men will have that their medic is different will be when you outrun and outlast them.
[*]Have pride in your vocation, your duties and yourself. Take a look around, a Platoon commander can be replaced by his PS, A MG gunner has a #2 gunner but you are irreplaceable. Interesting trivia, in reservist call ups, each vocation has a maximum income ceiling. Earn more than that and they don't call you back for ICT – cheaper to replace you. The cut-off point for a medic is higher than that of a Platoon Commander – go figure.
[*]Don't ever slack off and think that your job is cushy and “cho bo”. Even if the shit doesn't hit the fan, you can still find plenty to do in the form of preventive health care – take it seriously cos it's making sure that the shit doesn't have a chance to hit the fan. The men will not cooperate at first, but if you keep at it, they'll eventually get used to it and play along. If you don't do that, then you really truly have nothing to do and are as useless as tits on a boar. Like what antoh said - Get used to the fact that you'll be amongst the first ones up and last one to close shop.
[*]If the shit does hit the fan, make sure you know what to do. I always do “what-if” scenarios wherever I go. What are the likely accidents to occur? How to treat? How and Where to evacuate? Make sure you know all this, if you don't know – ask! It's your job. The ossifers may think you a pain at first but if you take notes and don't ask the same stupid question twice, they'll recognise that you're being professional and respect you for it.
[*]Take an interest in things around you. Who says a medic never gets to play with the toys? In my active unit, I've thrown 4 more grenades and fired more rounds through the SAW and M203 then I did in BMT. How? As cover medic that's how. If you have good rapport with the officers and NCOs, you get invited to join in when they expend all unused ammo.
I also surprised the shit out of the ATEC controller when I recovered the GPMG from a disabled MG team, brought it up and provided support fire for my platoon (PC and PS didn't realise MG was wiped out). It pays to help the MG team clean the MG if your weapon is clean. 6 months into my unit, I could operate all the individual and crew served weapons in my coy. I just didn't manage to live fire a LAW or 84 ... damn.
[*]Don't ever forget that there is a C in CMO. Above all things you are a COMBAT medic. Always take some when blanks are issued, always have your weapon readied when prudent to do so (but remember your safety catch) and do not be “ngiao” about firing if you have to. If you have to clean your weapon, you clean your weapon lah, you lazy bastard. You will have few occasions to fire your weapon but just note, most of the time that you are called upon to do so, it'll make a difference. I've saved my platoon hq's bacon on more than a few occasion.
The best compliment I ever got was from a rifleman in my platoon. He signed on to be a CMO.
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Most sad is during my time and i am not sure now....
Guards Medic are not GCC converted and hence only blue beret. Feel quite sad for them especially during Parades. -
so anyonw knows a Staff Mazlan (perhaps warrant now) who went around with a khaki beret? Was he guards converted?Originally posted by Bejean:Most sad is during my time and i am not sure now....
Guards Medic are not GCC converted and hence only blue beret. Feel quite sad for them especially during Parades. -
Do guards medics wear the "guards" tab on their sleeves on their no. 4? What about the MO?Originally posted by Bejean:Most sad is during my time and i am not sure now....
Guards Medic are not GCC converted and hence only blue beret. Feel quite sad for them especially during Parades. -
Nope, our medic dun even have guards tab as they didn't go for GCC.
At first our MO also no guards beret but later went course...so got beret and tab but his face is still pale and has lanjiao bin...act garang somemore..keke. -
I feel there is a need to raise the profile of medics both in and out of SAF. Let me reaccount a sad thing that happen to me...
As everyone knows (I hope everyone knows) one of the "trademaks" of a medic is the "railway stations" on their arms. These are the large marks of the 16G infustion needles everytime medic infuse on one another. Every medics will have at least 5 on every arm and yes, reservist must also do IV in every Medic Vocation Training.
What happen is that I was donating blood one time and the nurse saw those marks (they are really prominient). She made a very disturbing remark."Excuse me, are you a DRUG ADDICT?" Can you imagine the insult?
I can say that medics are the ONLY vocation that need to give blood and sweat for SAF. -
Question for all medics. What you do when your buddy lacerate the vein and one lump is created?
Do you (a) Don't care and get blue-black
(b) Press to get all the blood out so no blue-black?
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Oh, I've got something to say in this thread. Haha.. I'm a combat medic. A P.Tekong medic, to be exact. Seeing recruits reporting sick day in and out has always been a routine for me.
I must admit, not being posted to command schools after my BMT in 2003, really did made me feel sore for a while. But I realised soon, that, being a medic will earn my lifelong skills. At least I'd know the names of certain drugs, and its purposes etc.
I know how to operate the AED, MicroVent, and I can perform CPR. Ever been involved in resuscitating a casualty before? Well, I did. Seeing them survive the ordeal is really a joy. It's something which money can never buy.
Even Officers learnt nothing about life-saving in OCS. Neither did the Specialists learn anything about it in SISPEC too. Ok, perhaps for the Specialists, we've got this CLS (Combat Life-Saving) package for them. But the trainees were NEVER interested. Call themselves Commanders-to-be.
And here, I'm talking about REAL life-saving. Everybody knows Tekong is the forsaken island, where thousands of recruits are, and when someone dies in the training, it gets reported in the newspaper, "Tekong medics failed to revive casualty".
Comments: My foot.
Nobody has got any idea in what kinda condition did the casualty come into the medical centre. But I do. When people die from the training in Army, the public will know of it, and it'd be such a BIG hoo-haa.
However, when CPT Ho, the Officer who was a trainee in the CST (Combat Survival Training) sent on a helicopter to SGH, survived, nobody said a thing? Nobody applauded the medics from Tekong. We got only the blame. Period.
Nevertheless, I'm still rather proud to be a medic in the SAF, for I know, I've saved lives in my life before.
So people out there, if you're posted to be a Combat Medic, don't be disappointed! Remember, you're the ONLY one who is equipped with all the life-saving skills in the whole company/platoon (in unit). Just take it, and move on with Life! -
i fully agree that the medics, and life-saving skills, are one of the most understated within the combat community.Originally posted by fabiaN__:Oh, I've got something to say in this thread. Haha.. I'm a combat medic. A P.Tekong medic, to be exact. Seeing recruits reporting sick day in and out has always been a routine for me.
I must admit, not being posted to command schools after my BMT in 2003, really did made me feel sore for a while. But I realised soon, that, being a medic will earn my lifelong skills. At least I'd know the names of certain drugs, and its purposes etc.
I know how to operate the AED, MicroVent, and I can perform CPR. Ever been involved in resuscitating a casualty before? Well, I did. Seeing them survive the ordeal is really a joy. It's something which money can never buy.
Even Officers learnt nothing about life-saving in OCS. Neither did the Specialists learn anything about it in SISPEC too. Ok, perhaps for the Specialists, we've got this CLS (Combat Life-Saving) package for them. But the trainees were NEVER interested. Call themselves Commanders-to-be.
And here, I'm talking about REAL life-saving. Everybody knows Tekong is the forsaken island, where thousands of recruits are, and when someone dies in the training, it gets reported in the newspaper, "Tekong medics failed to revive casualty".
Comments: My foot.
Nobody has got any idea in what kinda condition did the casualty come into the medical centre. But I do. When people die from the training in Army, the public will know of it, and it'd be such a BIG hoo-haa.
However, when CPT Ho, the Officer who was a trainee in the CST (Combat Survival Training) sent on a helicopter to SGH, survived, nobody said a thing? Nobody applauded the medics from Tekong. We got only the blame. Period.
Nevertheless, I'm still rather proud to be a medic in the SAF, for I know, I've saved lives in my life before.
So people out there, if you're posted to be a Combat Medic, don't be disappointed! Remember, you're the ONLY one who is equipped with all the life-saving skills in the whole company/platoon (in unit). Just take it, and move on with Life!
the very fact that during atec, the casualties are revived between missions tells us things.
our troops do not really practice buddy-aid although they are expected to do so.
and our medics do not really perform their tasks within the context of combat exercises. they end up carrying weights or becoming part of the fighting troops.
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hmm... you're allowed to carry weapons and fire them, but you're not allowed to be shot at?
Doesn't make sense what..
then enemies see you carrying M16, and can heal people some more, of course they will shoot you right?
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first, i must say that i'm also a combat medic, but i feel that this bitterness is uncalled for. You think you are underappreciated?? you will see a resus maybe 4-5 times in your entire NSF. What about the paramedics out there who do the same job as you, and on a bad day, will see 4-5 resus in one single shift. They are just as underappreciated. Lets not even talk about nurses and doctors.Originally posted by fabiaN__:And here, I'm talking about REAL life-saving. Everybody knows Tekong is the forsaken island, where thousands of recruits are, and when someone dies in the training, it gets reported in the newspaper, "Tekong medics failed to revive casualty".
This my friend, is not unique to medics. Its called LIFE. people only remember when you screw up. No one remembers the signaller when the comms go perfectly, only when the comms are down...etc etc -
Actually in a combat situation the 1st line of aid ur platoon mate get from a combat injury is ur buddy aid not the platoon medic....if ur buddy aid if given at on the spot of injury, u may be be saving his life or give him a higher chance of surviving before the platoon medic can attend to him.
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Hmmm... maybe we should have some 'dummy' arms with veins for Medics to train setting IV lines..Originally posted by willgoh:I feel there is a need to raise the profile of medics both in and out of SAF. Let me reaccount a sad thing that happen to me...
As everyone knows (I hope everyone knows) one of the "trademaks" of a medic is the "railway stations" on their arms. These are the large marks of the 16G infustion needles everytime medic infuse on one another. Every medics will have at least 5 on every arm and yes, reservist must also do IV in every Medic Vocation Training.
What happen is that I was donating blood one time and the nurse saw those marks (they are really prominient). She made a very disturbing remark."Excuse me, are you a DRUG ADDICT?" Can you imagine the insult?
I can say that medics are the ONLY vocation that need to give blood and sweat for SAF.
I personally got an IV set on me before during a bout of fever in camp, so i can empathise with the medics for having to kenna 10 IVs each, especially when its done by an inexperienced buddy who's likely to miss many times before finding the vein.
But i'm sure the MOs also have 'railway tracks' on their arms too, maybe even more, both during their medical school days as well as during MOCC.
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Can the Hartmann's Solution be drunk?!Originally posted by the Bear:that's Hartmann Solution... it has all the stuff in your blood except the red blood cells..
a superb isotonic drink as it's easily absorbed by the body, and as mentioned, can prevent heat disorder
I thought it was normal saline since it was a bit salty. Hmm... next time when the sister is not around, I think I'll suggest that we cut open a pint of Hartmann's and drink it. 
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In Nursing School, we use a dummy arm with 'veins' filled with a red-coloured fluid to practice IV insertion on. We didn't practice on each other but we got our real practice on the patients when we were on our clinical attachments in the hospitals.Originally posted by cornyfish2000:Hmmm... maybe we should have some 'dummy' arms with veins for Medics to train setting IV lines..
I personally got an IV set on me before during a bout of fever in camp, so i can empathise with the medics for having to kenna 10 IVs each, especially when its done by an inexperienced buddy who's likely to miss many times before finding the vein.
But i'm sure the MOs also have 'railway tracks' on their arms too, maybe even more, both during their medical school days as well as during MOCC. -
Now SMM do have a dummy arm for IV purpose but u should know that the dummy and the real thing is so different.Originally posted by Rhonda:In Nursing School, we use a dummy arm with 'veins' filled with a red-coloured fluid to practice IV insertion on. We didn't practice on each other but we got our real practice on the patients when we were on our clinical attachments in the hospitals. -
Ya, i can imagine... at least dummies dun squirm about and scream when the needle is inserted..Originally posted by tarutaru:Now SMM do have a dummy arm for IV purpose but u should know that the dummy and the real thing is so different.
And the psychological trauma and nervousness for the one inserting the IV is also not there, as u know it's a dummy. Can't find the vein at most try again lor...
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Salute.
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Yes, and an often underappreciated bunch too..Originally posted by LazerLordz:Salute.
These guys are in a vocation where lives are saved.