Sad....news...
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Military Nuts also have this news...but i still 1 2 post here...
SINGAPORE: Defence Minister Teo Chee Hean on Thursday revealed that unauthorised training caused the death of a national serviceman, Second Sergeant Hu Enhuai who died on August 21 during a Combat Survival Training course.
Speaking in Parliament Rear-Admiral Teo said there was an extremely serious lapse of conduct in the training.
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Investigations revealed that his head had been submerged underwater four times.
This is not allowed under the training and the cause of death was asphyxia and near drowning.
In a ministerial statement in Parliament, Rear Admiral Teo said the incident was a stain on the SAF and it should never have happened.
"This is an extremely serious lapse in the conduct of the training. It should never have happened. MINDEF takes the gravest possible view of the matter. I am determined to establish the full facts of how such an unauthorised act occurred and to identify the persons responsible for it.
"I have convened a Higher Board of Inquiry to do so. Investigations are also being conducted by the Criminal Investigation Department of the Police, and there will be a coroner's inquiry. The results of these investigations will be made public. Any SAF personnel who have been negligent or culpable will be held to account and punished according to the law," he added
Admiral Teo also said after the incident, Mindef had suspended five instructors who conducted the training.
Four others have also been relieved of their duties, including the Commanding Officer of the School of Commando Training while the Chief Commando Officer has been removed. - CNA
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the bastards...
will the bastard be charged for manslaughter? -
I hope soOriginally posted by the Bear:the bastards...
will the bastard be charged for manslaughter?
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Hmmm......Justice will prevail, or so, in SAF. -
Four others have also been relieved of their duties, including the Commanding Officer of the School of Commando Training while the Chief Commando Officer has been removed. POWER SIA
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Originally posted by LoVeMeLoVeMenOt:Four others have also been relieved of their duties, including the Commanding Officer of the School of Commando Training while the Chief Commando Officer has been removed. POWER SIA Drama, the way I like it.
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ho ho ho they hentak kaki liao~
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i tink if da instructors were 2 b charged wit manslaughter it is 2 heavy a charge
nobody wants tis 2 happen and who wud expect it 2 happen
It is important to remember that the SAF has to train our soldiers as they will fight. The harder and more realistically we train them, the more likely they are to fight well and survive when called upon to defend the nation. The training also has to be conducted professionally and safely. MINDEF therefore constantly aims to strike the right balance between training realism and safety. We take all the safety precautions and measures feasible to minimise risks. But in the nature of military training, there will always remain some risks which cannot be completely eliminated.
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it was real all right.. realism.. so real that one of the men under him died in his hands...
the very men he has a sacred duty to try and bring back.. and to look after...
realism in training is good.. but you do not drown people..
more realism for the piece of dogturd... manslaughter charges! -
i haf to maintain tt its realli plain suay.
i can imagine the same thing has been done b4 but nothing has happened. but oh well. tt doesnt mean it is legal.
they took the risk and so mus live wif the consequences.
jus the chief cdo abit ai wan. he prob noe nuts abt the incident. but hes at the helm of the ship. so it sink he mus go too. -
tis is da 80th CST cse and over 6000 trainees have gone thru w/o n e incidents
and i dun see how replacing da management at da top is gonna change much -
hey u seriously got the same mentality as those instructors ah..... sad that SAF got so many ppl like that.Originally posted by 35MM Gunner:tis is da 80th CST cse and over 6000 trainees have gone thru w/o n e incidents
and i dun see how replacing da management at da top is gonna change much -
his comment is quite valid. the problem here does not lie with the top leadership. rather it is the system of checks and assurances as well as education of the mid level commanders.Originally posted by HENG@:hey u seriously got the same mentality as those instructors ah..... sad that SAF got so many ppl like that. -
Sigh.. In any case, my sympathies go out to the family and parents of the Guardsman. To lose a son like that, especially when he is supposed to be helping 'defend the nation' seems like an absolute kick in the guts, to put it mildly. Being a citizen army, every loss is a hard one to bear.
As for the training regime, i was not surprised to hear that Adm. Teo remarked that it may not be the first time that it (the dunking of trainees in water) has happened, and that previous cases may have been unreported. To me, a layman (and a pretty blur one, at that), it seems that it was a case of pushing things until the line snaps. I guess these instructors had done it before, and had just kept doing it until things got pushed too far. I think the mentality needs to change, and it should be made known that TSRs should not and cannot be pushed. TSRs should of course take into account realistic training, but safety should be paramount, no matter what. What's the use of training soldiers to fight if they end up killed by it?
Overall, Adm Teo seems to be going around kicking ass, and i think its a good thing. The Commandos have had a bad year. The good thing (at least) is that everything seems more 'above-board' than previous years, which (hopefully) means everyone sees it and there will be more pressure within SAF to change.
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