NS, does it change ur life perpective?
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i realised that the concept of an army was insane....
i realised that that armies live a lie...
i realised that in the army, there live parasites who are incapable of doing much other than be dregs of humanity who can never hope to be in real society..
i realised that people of all creed and colour but not from influential families were suffering through the same thing....
i realised that if you have connections and loads of dosh, you can keng your way through NS..
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In short, you learnt reality.Originally posted by the Bear:i realised that the concept of an army was insane....
i realised that that armies live a lie...
i realised that in the army, there live parasites who are incapable of doing much other than be dregs of humanity who can never hope to be in real society..
i realised that people of all creed and colour but not from influential families were suffering through the same thing....
i realised that if you have connections and loads of dosh, you can keng your way through NS..
i realised lots of things... -
but still.......army is a training grd for the reality world.....you are still under sheltered(in somehow...)
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I guess alot of you dudes already said this, but I did learn the importance of knowing my limits...and sometimes pushing beyond that...
Discipline was a second important thing I learned...it sure helped me in my undergraduate years and is still helping me in my grad years.
I remember the chao-kengs tend to be confined to the infantry companies though...there were definately some in my coy, but I guess we do benefit in having a smaller outfit...group cohesion is higher, and it was basically an 'all-volunteer' (generally speaking) outfit.
Its been almost 7 yrs since I ORDed...I still remember the last day of NS... Just after collecting my pink IC...I took a slow walk around my NS memory lane; the barracks, bunk, MT line, and just as I passed by the armskote room, my fren, an armskoteman, was going through the records to prepare to 'deregister' the ORDed personnel from the armskote list...needless to say, I got to caress my carbine one last time....sigh...
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yah it has changed my perspective a lot.
once upon a time, i actually wanted to sign on.
online i met a guy who was serving his NS as an officer.
when i told him that, he laughed at me and asked me "what honour, glory are you talking about?"
thought he was just being dumb, until i enlisted and found out for myself how screwed up SAF was. -
Me too, miss my friends, the stories, the chiong suaOriginally posted by Tango1:I guess alot of you dudes already said this, but I did learn the importance of knowing my limits...and sometimes pushing beyond that...
Discipline was a second important thing I learned...it sure helped me in my undergraduate years and is still helping me in my grad years.
I remember the chao-kengs tend to be confined to the infantry companies though...there were definately some in my coy, but I guess we do benefit in having a smaller outfit...group cohesion is higher, and it was basically an 'all-volunteer' (generally speaking) outfit.
Its been almost 7 yrs since I ORDed...I still remember the last day of NS... Just after collecting my pink IC...I took a slow walk around my NS memory lane; the barracks, bunk, MT line, and just as I passed by the armskote room, my fren, an armskoteman, was going through the records to prepare to 'deregister' the ORDed personnel from the armskote list...needless to say, I got to caress my carbine one last time....sigh...
Otherwise, I was also shocked when I entered the army, about how officers and senior ncos can bring their troops to death, even during peacetime. -
Made me more independent..Originally posted by duotiga83:does it change ur way of thinking during ur ns?
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wat each of us take out of ns realli depends on ourselves.Originally posted by Tango1:Discipline was a second important thing I learned...it sure helped me in my undergraduate years and is still helping me in my grad years.
I remember the chao-kengs tend to be confined to the infantry companies though...there were definately some in my coy, but I guess we do benefit in having a smaller outfit...group cohesion is higher, and it was basically an 'all-volunteer' (generally speaking) outfit.
Its been almost 7 yrs since I ORDed...I still remember the last day of NS... Just after collecting my pink IC...I took a slow walk around my NS memory lane; the barracks, bunk, MT line, and just as I passed by the armskote room, my fren, an armskoteman, was going through the records to prepare to 'deregister' the ORDed personnel from the armskote list...needless to say, I got to caress my carbine one last time....sigh...
and no leh.. not all the chao geng ppl go inf coy.
and well, more often than not, while we r in it, we wil curse and swear. once its all past us, we will look back in retrospect and thought it wasnt tt bad after alll... -
well, we always complained abt this complained abt that when we r still in the service, but when u ord u will start to miss the bunk, the cookhouse, the parade square, the mates whom u tok cock wif all day long , the everything tt accompanied u for ur 2 and 1/2 years. suddenly the sense of loss will come in and u will realise how time really flies... by tt time u can only reminisce those siong but good old days...
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Big waste of time, no point in doing things good, just make do can already, the superiors never appreciate what we do.
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WAste my 2.5 years. Times very hard to pass in NS. Lowest morale in my life when in NS. Forcing urself to do things u hate to do. No right to many things, no human right. Learnt nothing useful at all. I tot NS will make men mature but actually its not, i feel it make me stupid. Whenever i saw the NS recruitment advertistment in the train or TV, it make me laugh. Its all rather the opposite from the advertistement in the real army life. 2.5 years of doing nothing useful, waste my youth, my precious time. I can do better, more practical n useful thing in the working society rather than in NS
Haiz... 
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awwww...poor thing..nvm run to mama..Originally posted by Ogbunwezeh:WAste my 2.5 years. Times very hard to pass in NS. Lowest morale in my life when in NS. Forcing urself to do things u hate to do. No right to many things, no human right. Learnt nothing useful at all. I tot NS will make men mature but actually its not, i feel it make me stupid. Whenever i saw the NS recruitment advertistment in the train or TV, it make me laugh. Its all rather the opposite from the advertistement in the real army life. 2.5 years of doing nothing useful, waste my youth, my precious time. I can do better, more practical n useful thing in the working society rather than in NS Haiz... -
I realise that cooperative discussion doesn't exist in the army and one man's word is final. (usually higher rank than you and no matter how dumb and stupid it is, you do it)
I realise that request cooperative work doesn't exist in the army and the only way to do things is
1.) You f**k lower rank people left-right-up-down to do it(usually applies to higher rank people refer to the above point)
2.) You do it yourself
3.) You don't do it (heck, if nobody is doing, why should I be doing the sh*t)
I realise diligent, hardworking and on the ball = trouble
I realise, the higher rank you are=the lesser dirty you get (physical sense)
Just some points I realise in my NS term, maybe only applicable to me only lah... -
i guess u come from a very shitty unit..u got my respect coming out there with a sane mind..Originally posted by octega:I realise that cooperative discussion doesn't exist in the army and one man's word is final. (usually higher rank than you and no matter how dumb and stupid it is, you do it)
I realise that request cooperative work doesn't exist in the army and the only way to do things is
1.) You f**k lower rank people left-right-up-down to do it(usually applies to higher rank people refer to the above point)
2.) You do it yourself
3.) You don't do it (heck, if nobody is doing, why should I be doing the sh*t)
I realise diligent, hardworking and on the ball = trouble
I realise, the higher rank you are=the lesser dirty you get (physical sense)
Just some points I realise in my NS term, maybe only applicable to me only lah...
im lucky..the only dumb arse with have is our new C.O..n when i went back there..he become worst then ever.. -
Nah...it depends on what vocation and where you are posted to. By realising some basic truth, life is easy to go by.Originally posted by NathanG5:i guess u come from a very shitty unit..u got my respect coming out there with a sane mind..
im lucky..the only dumb arse with have is our new C.O..n when i went back there..he become worst then ever..
I am just a chow ns clerk, just so happen that my unit, the officers (including the warrants) out numbered the men so life can be very shitty. -
Lesson 1:
You only have human rights when it's given to u.
Lesson 2:
Justice, fairness, reason, etc do not exist. -
Yeah exactly... No matter how much effort we put in, they will not appreciate n the superiors get all credits. Pls dun blame the men for being chao keng, sometime when we think of this, it really make us no motivation to continue doing our tasks appoint, everything we did r take for granted...Originally posted by Ole:Big waste of time, no point in doing things good, just make do can already, the superiors never appreciate what we do. -
eventually u wil realise tt this happens to all big organisations where there is clear hierarchy - even in the private sector.Originally posted by Ogbunwezeh:Yeah exactly... No matter how much effort we put in, they will not appreciate n the superiors get all credits. -
bullseye!! my bro in green..Originally posted by wuming78:eventually u wil realise tt this happens to all big organisations where there is clear hierarchy - even in the private sector.
i think its even worst in private sector..ive got to block all back stabbing day by day...
at least in Army the only few person i need to put on guard is my officers..